Be honest!!

[Miss Shelby]

I was referring to the post you were commenting on rather than your post. sorry, I wasn't clear

OH darn, I thought we could derail this party and talk about our favorite cleaning supplies. THAT'S not something you hear about everyday!

Michelle

 

[DrBubbaLove]

As a former protestor it always bothered me that a simple (no brainer) public decision and act could force God to let me in no matter how I lived my life after that.

Not to mention that St Paul himself in the early part of his ministry seems to express his doubts that he would make it, finish the race. It occured to me even before becoming Catholic that if that fellow was not certain, then who am I to be so sure that I have made it already.

 

[princess_ballet]

As a former protestor it always bothered me that a simple (no brainer) public decision and act could force God to let me in no matter how I lived my life after that.

Can you imagine saying to God "Um...hey buddy, remember that little favor I did for you? Well, it doesn't really matter that I cheated on my spouse, never went to mass, and denied that you were up here, you gotta let me in!"

I don't think so.

It isn't up for us to decide who will be with God, that is for God to decide. I can't say because I can't read other's hearts.

 

[CeeBee]

It is for God to decide we are not to judge but yes, I think Protestants can make it to Heaven just like us!

 

[Dream]

Not to mention that St Paul himself in the early part of his ministry seems to express his doubts that he would make it, finish the race. It occured to me even before becoming Catholic that if that fellow was not certain, then who am I to be so sure that I have made it already.

Very true. Great post, Bubba.

 

[InnerPhyre]

This is the important thing to understand that many people don't grasp. If you're baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, you're Catholic. You might not observe the faith to its fullest extent, but all of us are Catholic and under the authority of the Pope Kick and scream if you wish. You are what you are.

 

[geocajun]

This is the important thing to understand that many people don't grasp. If you're baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, you're Catholic. You might not observe the faith to its fullest extent, but all of us are Catholic and under the authority of the Pope Kick and scream if you wish. You are what you are.

It is not the practice of the Church, as evidenced by Canon law and elsewhere, to refer to protestants as 'catholic', but rather as 'separated brethren not in full communion with the Church'.
Often they are referred to as "non-catholics".
You are right that they imperfectly part of the Catholic Church, but it would be improper for us to run around calling protestants 'catholics', unless they are formally catholic.

 

[InnerPhyre]

They are Catholic by virtue of their baptism. They separate themselves by their own personal beliefs, but the fact remains that because they deny the authority of the Pope doesn't mean the Pope doesn't have authority over all of Christianity. I'm American. I can hate the president and say "he's not MY president" but that doesn't make it so

 

[selfintercession]

Ask God

 

[Gwendolyn]

They are Catholic by virtue of their baptism. They separate themselves by their own personal beliefs, but the fact remains that because they deny the authority of the Pope doesn't mean the Pope doesn't have authority over all of Christianity. I'm American. I can hate the president and say "he's not MY president" but that doesn't make it so

That's a very interesting way to put it.

But I would still refer to them as those who are not in full communion with the Church.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

Would it not be more accurate and perhaps less in thier face to acknowledge we are all baptized into the body of Christ?

 

[Paul S]

Would it not be more accurate and perhaps less in thier face to acknowledge we are all baptized into the body of Christ?

We are, since there is only one Body to be baptised into, but baptism alone does not guarantee salvation.

We do know that anyone who wilfully rejects the Catholic Church and her teachings goes to hell. However, since only God knows whether a person who believes error is wilfully rejecting the truth, it is still possible for non-Catholics to go to heaven.

It may be more difficult for Protestants to get to heaven, but it is possible. To remind them of this may be "in their face", but is done out of charity for their souls and a desire for them to renounce error and come back to the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church founded by Jesus, the Catholic Church.

 

[Benedicta00]

I am not a Catholic but I believe individuals in the Catholic church can be saved and go to heaven but like everyone else they must be born again. My question to the Catholics here is ,do you honor the salvation of all believers i.e prostestants and do u believe that we will be with you all in paradise wheather Baptist, Pentacostal, or whatever if we confess Jesus as Lord but do not believe in the Catholic way. Thanks

I‘ll be honest- Catholic always are anyway as far as I know… I’ll answer you this way, how can you be "saved” in this life or the next when you meet Jesus, accept him, but reject His (this is the operative word here) Church and still be saved? Heaven is peace and joy, no sadness there- so how can anyone who rejects Christ’s Church dwell forever in the kingdom that is fully Catholic?

 

[Carrye]

My question to the Catholics here is ,do you honor the salvation of all believers i.e prostestants and do u believe that we will be with you all in paradise wheather Baptist, Pentacostal, or whatever if we confess Jesus as Lord but do not believe in the Catholic way. Thanks

I'm not sure if I'm reading the question correctly, but people have already commented on the Church's teaching on the issue. If you were looking for each of our individual perspectives (the "you" in your question being singular), I would say that it doesn't matter, and for the most part, that's not how Catholics operate. Catholicism isn't a democracy, but a monarchy with Christ as the Head. Besides, I don't determine who gets into Heaven, and so it doesn't matter at all what I think.

 

[InnerPhyre]

Alright well if you don't agree with my explanation, lets look at it this way: Protestants can go to heaven, but everyone in heaven is Catholic. Since protestantism teaches errors and Catholicism does not, and there are no errors in heaven, protestants who go to heaven become immediately Catholic for all eternity

 

[Ann M]

Actually the use of the word 'honor' in your question, makes the question utterly irrelevant to all of us.

We, as Catholics, have never promised you that you will have salvation, and so we are not personally responsible for whether or not you get to Heaven. Is this not what 'honor' means?


hon·or Audio pronunciation of "honor" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nr)
n.

1. High respect, as that shown for special merit; esteem: the honor shown to a Nobel laureate.
2.
1. Good name; reputation.
2. A source or cause of credit: was an honor to the profession.
3.
1. Glory or recognition; distinction.
2. A mark, token, or gesture of respect or distinction: the place of honor at the table.
3. A military decoration.
4. A title conferred for achievement.
4. High rank.
5. The dignity accorded to position: awed by the honor of his office.
6. Great privilege: I have the honor to present the governor.
7. Honor Used with His, Her, or Your as a title and form of address for certain officials, such as judges and mayors: Her Honor the Mayor.
8.
1. Principled uprightness of character; personal integrity.
2. A code of integrity, dignity, and pride, chiefly among men, that was maintained in some societies, as in feudal Europe, by force of arms.
3. A woman's chastity or reputation for chastity.
9. honors Social courtesies offered to guests: did the honors at tea.
10. honors
1. Special recognition for unusual academic achievement: graduated with honors.
2. A program of individual advanced study for exceptional students: planned to take honors in history.
11. Sports. The right of being first at the tee in golf.
12. Games.
1. Any of the four or five highest cards, especially the ace, king, queen, jack, and ten of the trump suit, in card games such as bridge or whist.
2. The points allotted to these cards. Often used in the plural.


tr.v. hon·ored, hon·or·ing, hon·ors

1.
1. To hold in respect; esteem.
2. To show respect for.
3. To bow to (another dancer) in square dancing: Honor your partner.
2. To confer distinction on: He has honored us with his presence.
3. To accept or pay as valid: honor a check; a store that honors all credit cards.


Idiom:
honor bound

Under an obligation enforced by the personal integrity of the one obliged: I was honor bound to admit that she had done the work.

 

[tjboie2001]

I believe anyone can be saved if they want to be saved.

 

[WhoeverLovesGod01]

I don't know who goes to heaven, but I hope.

 

[Michael G]

I am not a Catholic but I believe individuals in the Catholic church can be saved and go to heaven but like everyone else they must be born again. My question to the Catholics here is ,do you honor the salvation of all believers i.e prostestants and do u believe that we will be with you all in paradise wheather Baptist, Pentacostal, or whatever if we confess Jesus as Lord but do not believe in the Catholic way. Thanks

Be careful with that saved word. A person is only saved once God has brought them into Heaven. There is not a person on this Earth who is literally saved, because none of us can presume to know we will be in Heaven when we die. We are redeemed by the blood of Christ, but we are not yet saved.

 

[Benedicta00]

Be careful with that saved word. A person is only saved once God has brought them into Heaven. There is not a person on this Earth who is literally saved, because none of us can presume to know we will be in Heaven when we die. We are redeemed by the blood of Christ, but we are not yet saved.

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

And that is what we call the "Hope" of glory. Not, I have glory in the bag.