be cast into the sea

[Chalnoth]

Oh that whole banana thing... what a shame that seed proliferation might be a beneficial trait, so having fruit that monkeys like might just be a good trait to have, which negates the design issue...

Actually, bananas were domesticated by humans Wild bananas still exist, and are quite different (big seeds, much smaller fruit).

 

[Edx]

Wild bananas still exist, and are quite different (big seeds, much smaller fruit).

Apparently that fact was the reason the guy gave that argument up. As if thats the only good reason to think its stupid!

 

[JohnR7]

if the Chinese had said to the mountain, "In the name of Jesus Christ, be moved", and it had moved, then THAT would be compelling evidence.

So we all agree then that Jesus said that with a little bit of faith we could move mountains. We all agree that the Chinese in building the airport exercised their faith and did just what Jesus said, they moved the mountain.

So Jesus said it could be done, the Chinese had the faith that they could do it and science got the job done. So what is the problem, it looks like a win-win situation to me. Esp if you ever made that 20 min ride from downtown Hong Kong to the airport, it is a awesome.

It will be short lived. In Bejing, they are building the biggest airport in the world there. So they will have their braging rights during the olympics. They are putting 100% effort into impressing the world.

 

[Edx]

So we all agree then that Jesus said that with a little bit of faith we could move mountains. We all agree that the Chinese in building the airport exercised their faith and did just what Jesus said, they moved the mountain.

So Jesus said it could be done, the Chinese had the faith that they could do it and science got the job done. So what is the problem, it looks like a win-win situation to me. Esp if you ever made that 20 min ride from downtown Hong Kong to the airport, it is a awesome.

It will be short lived. In Bejing, they are building the biggest airport in the world there. So they will have their braging rights during the olympics. They are putting 100% effort into impressing the world.

Thats not what Jesus meant and you know it. If Jesus had said "with enough faith you can fly", he didnt mean studying air currents and constructing a vehicle that glided over them, or strapping a jet pack to your back thousands of years later. If Jesus said "with faith you can see if inside someones body to view their bones" he didnt mean inventing an X-Ray machine. Jesus was talking about a miracle, or faith in Jesus is evidently worthless as you dont even have to have faith in him to even move a mountain!! You are such a terrible apologist!

 

[I_Love_Cheese]

So we all agree then that Jesus said that with a little bit of faith we could move mountains. We all agree that the Chinese in building the airport exercised their faith and did just what Jesus said, they moved the mountain.

So Jesus said it could be done, the Chinese had the faith that they could do it and science got the job done. So what is the problem, it looks like a win-win situation to me. Esp if you ever made that 20 min ride from downtown Hong Kong to the airport, it is a awesome.

It will be short lived. In Bejing, they are building the biggest airport in the world there. So they will have their braging rights during the olympics. They are putting 100% effort into impressing the world.

So anything that happens has some support in the Bible.
You know what this means, the Bible is irrelevant in that all that it amounts to is S**** Happens.

I don't think that is really what you want to be arguing.

 

[fromdownunder]

I think John needs some support here, so I randomly opened my Bible and came up with this:

Mark 16:18

They shall take up serpants; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.

Clearly, this tells us that the science of modern medicine proves the Bible. Stomach pumps and modern surgery are the proof!

So there!! (See, John, one can be an atheist and still find this sort of stuff quite easily. Retrofitting is easy.

Norm

 

[corvus_corax]

It's finally happened.
With this new thread of his, JohnR7 is now completely indistinguishable from dad.
It was bound to happen.

Creationists get sillier every day.

 

[JohnR7]

Creationists get sillier every day.

What is "silly" is the total lack of scientific evidence on the part of evolutions in their vain attempt to defend their theory.

You can tell when they are really in trouble because they no longer argue to defend their theory. Instead they begin to attacking people.

Now come on guys, can you defend your theory with any real evidence? Or do you just want to admit defeat and turn this into a personal attack?

I offer huge amounts of scientific evidence for Creationism and yet they can not even seem to come up with even a little bit of evidence to support evolution.

 

[corvus_corax]

What is "silly" is the total lack of scientific evidence on the part of evolutions in their vain attempt to defend their theory.

Wait...this thread is about Evolution and Creationism?
Huh, I thought it was about faith in moving a mountain.

(checks the OP)

Yep, this thread is about moving a mountain.

You can tell when they are really in trouble because they no longer argue to defend their theory. Instead they begin to attacking people.

Im not attacking you , John. Im pointing out that the silliness of your OP is so extreme (IMO) as to be indistinguishable from a thread created by dad.

Now come on guys, can you defend your theory with any real evidence? Or do you just want to admit defeat and turn this into a personal attack?

Hey, in a thread that's actually about Evolution, we'll (yet again ) debate you and (yet again ) show you how you close your eyes to the scientific method.

I offer huge amounts of scientific evidence for Creationism and yet they can not even seem to come up with even a little bit of evidence to support evolution.

You have offered no evidence in this thread regarding any scientific evidence of Creationism. Of course, you shouldn't, as this thread is about moving a mountain in China. Re-read your own OP Johnny.

Unless, of course, you want to derail your own thread

 

[Nathan Poe]

So we all agree then that Jesus said that with a little bit of faith we could move mountains. We all agree that the Chinese in building the airport exercised their faith and did just what Jesus said, they moved the mountain.

So Jesus said it could be done, the Chinese had the faith that they could do it and science got the job done. So what is the problem, it looks like a win-win situation to me. Esp if you ever made that 20 min ride from downtown Hong Kong to the airport, it is a awesome.

And not one prayer, invocation of the Holy Spirit, or Bible verse was necessary to get it done.

Congrats Johnny, You've just proven how much people can accomplish without religion holding them back.

 

[Logic_Fault]

What is "silly" is the total lack of scientific evidence on the part of evolutions in their vain attempt to defend their theory.

Ha!

You can tell when they are really in trouble because they no longer argue to defend their theory.

Not with you they wont. And I don't blame them.

Instead they begin to attacking people.

They're only human, John. Therefor they only have so much patience.

Now come on guys, can you defend your theory with any real evidence? Or do you just want to admit defeat and turn this into a personal attack?

But, you wont listen to the evidence. Personal attacks seem to be the only thing you respond to.

I offer huge amounts of scientific evidence for Creationism and yet they can not even seem to come up with even a little bit of evidence to support evolution.

You need to review the entry for evidence in the dictionary, John.

 

[joey444]

Well, you putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "LALALALALALALALA!" seems to be the reason you don't see evidence for evolution.

 

[Grummpy]

Logic_Fault

But, you wont listen to the evidence. Personal attacks seem to be the only thing you respond to.

A Friend of mine put it this way"Logic and reasonable debate fail in the face of blunt stupidity."

It's not the way I would want to end all arguement, but if John insists...

Grumpy