Barack Obama

[Alpine]

That e-mail is a fraud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama

Here's more on his beliefs


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama




Personal life

While working at the corporate law firm Sidley Austin LLP in the summer of 1989, Obama met Michelle Robinson, then an associate attorney at the firm. They married in 1992, and have two daughters, Malia (born 1999) and Sasha (born 2001). The Obamas are members of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.[117][118] Of his religious affiliation, Obama has written:

I was drawn to the power of the African American religious tradition to spur social change. [...] In the history of these struggles, I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; rather, it was an active, palpable agent in the world. [...] It was because of these newfound understandings–that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice, or otherwise retreat from the world that I knew and loved–that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized. It came about as a choice and not an epiphany; the questions I had did not magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago, I felt God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.[119]
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[heron]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

The urban legends site explains that his mother sent him to a muslim school for two years, and his stepfather was a non-practicing muslim. Someone probably read that and flew into a panic.

 

[zhilan]

He just announced a few minutes ago that he was running. You can't believe politicians.

He is??? Wow....

Well, we'll see what happens.

 

[he4rty]

back to topic.

 

[franky67]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

The urban legends site explains that his mother sent him to a muslim school for two years, and his stepfather was a non-practicing muslim. Someone probably read that and flew into a panic.

Truth is that his stepfather Lolo Soetoro, put him in a muslim Wahabbi school, his first education, for two years. He was age six.

This was in Jakarta, two years later he attended a catholic school for two years, he then moved back to Hawaii.

No panic, but something any voter needs to know.

The war on terror is going to be long and hard fought, research will show that from first school age, muslim children in the wahabbi sect are taught hatred of non muslims.

That's why the struggle will take so long, we have to change what these children are taught.

Read what Obama says about his beliefs on Time Magazine's website.

 

[franky67]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

The urban legends site explains that his mother sent him to a muslim school for two years, and his stepfather was a non-practicing muslim. Someone probably read that and flew into a panic.

Did you read it, if so, read it again slowly.

 

[Adammi]

Anybody see that email going around about Obama being a muslim ?

The way he came out of nowhere, and seems to walk on water in congress.

And have all the answers.

To solve all the world's problems.

As your resident liberal P) I can assure you that Obama is not a Muslim, he doesn't walk on water, and he's already got my vote, even if it is just in the primary.

I'm not one to jump on the bandwagon so I was a bit hesitant about him having a shot at the presidency, but then I read his book The Audacity of Hope and was blown away by his humility, experience, and expertise in the areas of politics, constitutional law, and life.

 

[Adammi]

He is??? Wow....

Well, we'll see what happens.

No, he announced that he was starting a presidential exploratory committee. That is something very different from announcing the beginning of a campaign.

 

[franky67]

As your resident liberal P) I can assure you that Obama is not a Muslim, he doesn't walk on water, and he's already got my vote, even if it is just in the primary.

I'm not one to jump on the bandwagon so I was a bit hesitant about him having a shot at the presidency, but then I read his book The Audacity of Hope and was blown away by his humility, experience, and expertise in the areas of politics, constitutional law, and life.

I don't harbor any Ill feelings against him, I just would have a real check in my spirit about the fact that he was exposed to such an intimidating teaching for two years in his young life.

And I sure couldn't vote for anyone who supports keeping abortion legal. Especially partial birth abortion.

 

[Adammi]

I don't harbor any Ill feelings against him, I just would have a real check in my spirit about the fact that he was exposed to such an intimidating teaching for two years in his young life.

And I sure couldn't vote for anyone who supports keeping abortion legal. Especially partial birth abortion.

I understand your apprehensions about abortion.
I don't however, understand what you mean about him being exposed to such intimidating teaching.
Are you referring to his Christian or Muslim teaching? If we are going to nitpick over small things such as that, then maybe we should point out that President Bush was an alcoholic.
(Note-I don't think that his prior alcoholism is the reason for his current drunkness, j/k)

 

[franky67]

I understand your apprehensions about abortion. I personally believe that abortion is always wrong no matter the circumstances, but I also believe that I am no one to make that choice for someone else.
I don't however, understand what you mean about him being exposed to such intimidating teaching.
Are you referring to his Christian or Muslim teaching? If we are going to nitpick over small things such as that, then maybe we should point out that President Bush was an alcoholic.
(Note-I don't think that his prior alcoholism is the reason for his current drunkness, j/k)

What bothers me is the fact that he was exposed to very right wing Islamic teachings in Jakarta at the age of six, for two years.

Now I can't prove that, but his stepfather was a muslim, and probably had some influence over him.

On Abortion, A mother does not have the right to kill her child, either in the womb, or out of the womb.

So It's not a choice that God gives to a mother, therefore, we are not usurping that "right", by making abortion illegal.

 

[akasmom]

I don't know a lot about Obama, but maybe instead of deciding he has been tarnished in some way by muslim schooling, it is possible he could be someone (precisely because of his education and family background) to find a way to constructively dialogue with those of that faith who are distrustful of Americans in genereal and Christians in particular?

 

[Adammi]

I don't know a lot about Obama, but maybe instead of deciding he has been tarnished in some way by muslim schooling, it is possible he could be someone (precisely because of his education and family background) to find a way to constructively dialogue with those of that faith who are distrustful of Americans in genereal and Christians in particular?

I agree very much.
I think that having a president named Obama would be very helpful in dealing with people who follow a man named Osama. I think that it would give us some common ground.

 

[Doer]

I don't know, I get a good vibe off him. Then again, looks can be deceiving. I'll have to do my homework.

 

[Atlantians]

The way I look at it is this: if we think he may be the anti-christ... he certainly is not.

 

[God_Owned]

The answer to everyone's problems except his own (as is the case with all wannabe messianic figures)

Good one!

 

[God_Owned]

I agree very much.
I think that having a president named Obama would be very helpful in dealing with people who follow a man named Osama. I think that it would give us some common ground.

As long as the US supports Israel, we will never have common ground with Osama which is just fine with me.

 

[Katana]

I understand your apprehensions about abortion.
I don't however, understand what you mean about him being exposed to such intimidating teaching.
Are you referring to his Christian or Muslim teaching? If we are going to nitpick over small things such as that, then maybe we should point out that President Bush was an alcoholic.
(Note-I don't think that his prior alcoholism is the reason for his current drunkness, j/k)

If you want to point out something like that about Bush, we should also point out Obama's cocaine use. I saw him talking about it earlier today in an interview. These were some of the "stupid things" he had done in his past, which I don't really hold against him. We all make mistakes.

However, Obama is full of empty slogans, created from empty beliefs. The only thing he will serve to do is drive this nation "forward" to a socialist agenda which will only make it harder for me to actually make a life for myself. His foreign policy will probably be the same weakness and degeneracy we have come to expect from Western politicians. Pretending to support peace in the ME, but by our policies actually insuring that things get worse. Opposition to Israel (while at the sametime claiming to support Israel), and inaction to threats that exist in the world. Retreat, lots of talk, and shame and sin upon the United States because of brainless policies which prove Osama's point that we are merely "paper tigers". What we need is a person who will not be afraid to confront our enemies and speak the truth.

For that, Tom Tancredo is my man.

 

[Adammi]

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If you want to point out something like that about Bush, we should also point out Obama's cocaine use. I saw him talking about it earlier today in an interview. These were some of the "stupid things" he had done in his past, which I don't really hold against him. We all make mistakes.

However, Obama is full of empty slogans, created from empty beliefs. The only thing he will serve to do is drive this nation "forward" to a socialist agenda which will only make it harder for me to actually make a life for myself. His foreign policy will probably be the same weakness and degeneracy we have come to expect from Western politicians. Pretending to support peace in the ME, but by our policies actually insuring that things get worse. Opposition to Israel (while at the sametime claiming to support Israel), and inaction to threats that exist in the world. Retreat, lots of talk, and shame and sin upon the United States because of brainless policies which prove Osama's point that we are merely "paper tigers". What we need is a person who will not be afraid to confront our enemies and speak the truth.

For that, Tom Tancredo is my man.

I wasn't at all trying to condemn Bush for his prior alcoholism. I was simply stating that if we want to nitpick about Obama then we have to do the same to Bush. Yes, I think that it is very noble for Obama admit his marijuana and cocaine use, he gets 2 thumbs up from me on that one.
I don't think that his slogans are empty. I think that he is genuine, considering that all of his slogans are against ingenuine politics. I don't have a problem with his socialist agenda, in fact, it is one of my favorite things about him. I also trust him on defense because he sees peace as the primary goal of war. He is a hopeful dove who could easily be pushed into being a hawk.
I wish that an American politician would stand up against Israel sometimes. My goodness, it was sad to see hundreds of Lebanese civilians murdered without any US support because of Bush's fear of losing his Evangelical base.
Tancredo? Really? He is all that I oppose personified.

 

[SharonL]

I wasn't at all trying to condemn Bush for his prior alcoholism. I was simply stating that if we want to nitpick about Obama then we have to do the same to Bush. Yes, I think that it is very noble for Obama admit his marijuana and cocaine use, he gets 2 thumbs up from me on that one.
I don't think that his slogans are empty. I think that he is genuine, considering that all of his slogans are against ingenuine politics. I don't have a problem with his socialist agenda, in fact, it is one of my favorite things about him. I also trust him on defense because he sees peace as the primary goal of war. He is a hopeful dove who could easily be pushed into being a hawk.
I wish that an American politician would stand up against Israel sometimes. My goodness, it was sad to see hundreds of Lebanese civilians murdered without any US support because of Bush's fear of losing his Evangelical base.
Tancredo? Really? He is all that I oppose personified.

Once America stops supporting Israel - we are lost as a nation. We have been Blessed because we are the only nation that supports Israel.

God said "I will Bless those who bless Israel and I will curse those who curse Israel" -

Israel was not sending rockets against Lebanese by themselves - we tied the hands of Israel - we should have turned them loose and let them fight.

God gave Israel the boundries for their state and they were not to give any of it away - it is being taken away with every countries Blessings - this is not what the Bible says.