twin1954
Baptist by the Bible
I will get back to you on this later in the evening my brother. I am retired but working part time at Ace. Today is on of the days that I work. BTW, did you see my ACE commercial? PM me and I will tell you the amazing story of God’s wonderful Providence.This is directed at you brother.
All the Gospels accounts say about Jesus' return will be "great power and glory".
As a whole, both 1 Cor. 15:51-54 and 1 Thess. 4:13-18 "harmonize" very well.
Where I have not had any success whatsoever "harmonizing" scriptures are the Gospel account with Acts 1:11; 2 Thess. 1:7-8, Rev. 19:11.
Like I said, the only alternative is to believe, according to the Gospel and Paul's account, Jesus will return in the clouds, gather his elect, then His countenance will change to Him in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that known not God, all the while sitting upon a "white horse". And if you accept that position, then you would also have to believe that the church will endure all 7 years of the tribulation.
Now I know that the church at Philadelphia disappeared some years ago. How do we take John's (?) record of what is promised to the church at Philadelphia?
Seriously though, looking at the "eschatology" we know of that is revealed between Revelation 6 and Revelation 18, of the currently 7 billion inhabitants on the face of the earth, only 3.1 billion will survive until Rev. 19:11 starts. (King of Kings, sitting on a white horse)
Let me give you an example:
In the first three seals of Revelation 6 being opened, while the disaster is huge, no one perishes. However, in Rev. 6:7-8 we read:
"And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."
Before Jesus returns, here is an "instant" death sentence.
As of 08:35 am, 10/18/18, the worlds population is 7,657, 517,790 people.
If the opening of the fourth seal tells us a quarter will die, that means as of this date, 1,914,379,448 people would die. How many are "Christian" and how many are non-Christians? Don't know, its not my business to know. What I do know is this "prophesy" makes no distinction as to whether those who die are saved or unsaved.
I just don't accept, that God would punish the good with the wicked. And add to that what Paul says in 1 Thess. 1:10. Simply put, the Book of Revelation is God's wrath being poured out on an unrepentant, unsaved world.
If you look also at the word "wrath", it is not mentioned until Rev. 6:16.
From a strictly Greek usage, agro, is always used as a noun. And in at least one place, it is used as an adverbial modifying a noun.
An example would be the word "house". Even though it is a noun, it can be used as a adjective to describe a particular place.
What is important here is to look at scripture. I don't care what your particular view is on the tribulation. But it is important to know that after Rev. 6:15, scriptures there tell us what follows is God's wrath.
It is particularly to the point here:
"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" -Rev. 6:17 (KJV)
And again, in Rev. 16, we see an even more terrible event revealed. The pouring out of God's wrath in the "Bowl Judgements".
Now I will also freely admit, that the ultimate "wrath of God" comes upon those who have to spend an eternity in the "Lake of Fire".
But, as shown previously, the wrath of God begins with the opening of the "seven seals" of Revelation 6.
With all due respect brother, I just don't see it.
God Bless
Till all are one.
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