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Attending a Synagogue for the 1st time Sat.

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At one time I thought about looking into Judaism but never did it, it was suggested to me because my biological father is Jewish (not practicing though), and it was posed why don't you practice it, because it's in your bloodline.
Well next Saturday, I plan on attending a service, what should I expect? I figured that'd attend for like a month or so, and see how I like it, that way not to make an hasty decisions, like I did when I joined the Catholic Church, i'm bad about that.
Also, what does Judaic mean? That's what the Synagogue I was thinking about going to, is listed as in the phonebook.
Another question: I still believe in Jesus, yet if I choose to practice Judaism, I don't want to be a Messianic Jew, I feel the traditional way is the way to practice a religion. I was told by a friend of mine's father that, on my journey that wouldn't be the important thing. But i'm worried wouldn't it cause a problem?
Thanks for the help in advance you guys!
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ThereseTheLittleFlower said:
At one time I thought about looking into Judaism but never did it, it was suggested to me because my biological father is Jewish (not practicing though), and it was posed why don't you practice it, because it's in your bloodline.
Well next Saturday, I plan on attending a service, what should I expect? I figured that'd attend for like a month or so, and see how I like it, that way not to make an hasty decisions, like I did when I joined the Catholic Church, i'm bad about that.
Also, what does Judaic mean? That's what the Synagogue I was thinking about going to, is listed as in the phonebook.
Another question: I still believe in Jesus, yet if I choose to practice Judaism, I don't want to be a Messianic Jew, I feel the traditional way is the way to practice a religion. I was told by a friend of mine's father that, on my journey that wouldn't be the important thing. But i'm worried wouldn't it cause a problem?
Thanks for the help in advance you guys!
REN

I have recently begun attending a Messianic Synagogue and if yours is anything like mine you will probably feel quite at home in many ways.

There is quite a lot of liturgy, some of which is sung, most is in Hebrew (English translation available).

I don't know about other congregations though it seems to differ quite a lot. Let us know how you get on.

By going to a regular synagogue you would be rejecting Jesus, you still get much of the tradition in a Messianic fellowship (well some anyway). How traditional can non Messianics be? Up till 70AD they worshipped and sacrificed in the temple, that change had a radical effect on Judaism as a whole.
 
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ThereseTheLittleFlower said:
At one time I thought about looking into Judaism but never did it, it was suggested to me because my biological father is Jewish (not practicing though), and it was posed why don't you practice it, because it's in your bloodline.

I would say, do what is in your heart. Don't follow Judaism simply because your father was Jewish. Follow what is in your heart. No one can choose that but you ;)
Well next Saturday, I plan on attending a service, what should I expect?

It really depends. What type of a synagogue is it? I find that in most synagogues, the people are friendly and helpful... but there's also a lot of Hebrew. Don't worry about not knowing the prayers or songs. It'll come with time. There will probably be a transliateration available (hebrew words spelled out in English so you can follow along easier) and a translation, so you know what you're saying. :)

I figured that'd attend for like a month or so, and see how I like it, that way not to make an hasty decisions....
Excellent decision. You'll find no pressure to convert in Judaism. It is completely up to where you want to be. No one will pressure you to attend classes, etc.
Also, what does Judaic mean? That's what the Synagogue I was thinking about going to, is listed as in the phonebook.
Its just an adjective describing the type of worship. "Christian" or "Judaic" or "Islamic". It doesn't signify what type of congregation it is. Most likely, with it simply being described as "Judaic" it is a reform congregation.
Another question: I still believe in Jesus, yet if I choose to practice Judaism, I don't want to be a Messianic Jew, I feel the traditional way is the way to practice a religion. I was told by a friend of mine's father that, on my journey that wouldn't be the important thing. But i'm worried wouldn't it cause a problem?
Thanks for the help in advance you guys!
REN
Many who convert to Judaism come from a christian background. If and when you decide to attend conversion classes, it will be sorted out there. There is no hinderance for who can and can not attend synagogue. In fact, many churches will often attend our synagogue just to learn about Judaism, or to see how "jesus worshiped" etc. However, if you decide to eventually convert, you'll have to make some decisions about what you believe concerning Jesus, and how he fits into your personal beliefs, etc. But don't worry about that right now.

Just visit for now, see what you think. Talk to some people and discover what is in your heart.

I won't tug on you either way. This is a decision you'll have to make on your own. However, coming forward openly in a christian forum, you'll have a lot of people who will try to sway you and ask why you're "leaving Jesus". Be ready to be asked some difficult questions, etc. Many won't understand why you're going through this and won't be able to relate. Don't disregard them. Listen to what they have to say, but remember above all.. its your choice ;)

Shalom,
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Espada said:
I have recently begun attending a Messianic Synagogue and if yours is anything like mine you will probably feel quite at home in many ways.
Of course, she was talking about attending a regular synagogue and not a messianic congregation ;)


By going to a regular synagogue you would be rejecting Jesus....
Hmmm. Can you explain this? Because you go on to say that the early believers attended synagogue and made sacrifices at the temple, etc... This seems contradictory?

Not arguing, just wishing for you to clarify this quote please ;)

-Yafet
 
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Another question: I still believe in Jesus, yet if I choose to practice Judaism, I don't want to be a Messianic Jew, I feel the traditional way is the way to practice a religion.
Why would you ask this question here, on the Messianic Jewish forum if you feel this way? I'm not trying to be obnoxious, I'm really very curious.
 
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Well, I am impulsive and I was like what the hey! Same way with Catholicism, but that's why I think I should attend for a while. I've been back forth on my religion, it's like i'm searching, it's like i'll probably try every religion known to man!

I'm not doing this because of my dad, it was just suggested to me a long time ago, trust me i don't even like being compared to my father, my mom says I look like him and I don't like that.

If anything, I would at least have the expierence, I like learning about other religions, at least in the end, even if I end up agnostic or something due to my neverending searches, at least i'll be well rounded!! -Ha-

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Because you go on to say that the early believers attended synagogue and made sacrifices at the temple, etc... This seems contradictory?

Not arguing, just wishing for you to clarify this quote please
;)

Sure she can go to a synagogue without rejecting Yeshua, however Converting to Judaism Does include rejecting Yeshua as Messiah.
 
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Well, i'm not saying that to say it's wrong to be a Messianic Jew, i'm just saying, personally I don't know if that's what I would choose, hey for all I know I might choose that. I wasn't trying to cause offense, i'm sorry if it came out that way.
 
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jgonz said:
Sure she can go to a synagogue without rejecting Yeshua, however Converting to Judaism Does include rejecting Yeshua as Messiah.
I agree, but you specifically stated "By going to a regular synagogue".

Anywho...
 
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ThereseTheLittleFlower said:
At one time I thought about looking into Judaism but never did it, it was suggested to me because my biological father is Jewish (not practicing though), and it was posed why don't you practice it, because it's in your bloodline.
Well next Saturday, I plan on attending a service, what should I expect? I figured that'd attend for like a month or so, and see how I like it, that way not to make an hasty decisions, like I did when I joined the Catholic Church, i'm bad about that.
Also, what does Judaic mean? That's what the Synagogue I was thinking about going to, is listed as in the phonebook.
Another question: I still believe in Jesus, yet if I choose to practice Judaism, I don't want to be a Messianic Jew, I feel the traditional way is the way to practice a religion. I was told by a friend of mine's father that, on my journey that wouldn't be the important thing. But i'm worried wouldn't it cause a problem?
Thanks for the help in advance you guys!
REN
Shalom Therese.

We can compare notes next week. My situation is a little different from yours. I managed to spend some 50 years in and out of various Christian churches, usually involved in the leadership, having never accepted the Trinity doctrine. But then a few years ago, I found one group of Christian friends after another placing me in informal "Inquisition" tribunals. I began calling myself "Jewish" some 5 years ago, because I realized that my beliefs and practices were closer to those of the Jews than those of the Christians. But I have avoided attending synagogues up until now for various reasons.

That has now changed. A Conservative Synagogue has started in my city, offering Hebrew lessons to the public. I seriously want to become fluent in Hebrew, so of course, I jumped at the chance. Then the rabbi totally surprized me, by inviting me to come to the Shabbat service. I couldn't go last Shabbat, because I had to attend a life-saving class; but I did get there in time for the Oneg afterwards, and stayed on for the Blessing After the Meal -- all sung, and all in Hebrew, but a wonderful experience. My wife will be off next weekend, and we plan to go together to the whole service.

The Shabbat service takes about 2½ hours, all in Hebrew and again, probably mostly sung. I don't envision this being a problem. All of my problems with Christians over the past 57 years have been in English; at least here, I can plead ignorance. But I think it will be a good experience, because I love being around Jewish people, especially the old folks.

I went to a Messianic fellowship for about a year, a few years back. The folks there were all very friendly, and we plan on having the Rabbi and his wife over for dinner next Sunday. Messianics are mostly Trinitarians, like Christians. This particular Rabbi never gave me a hard time about my beliefs, but they did keep me from full participation in his fellowship. I went simply as a visitor. They had a Chazzan who was raised Jewish, but the Rabbi was trained as a Baptist Minister and converted to "Messianic Judaism". Of course, the religious Jews would not consider him a "Rabbi" because he's not one of theirs. (They don't accept me as Jewish either, but you know all about that sort of thing. I use the Magen David here, because CF considers me Jewish).

I feel like a cow on the auction block, with so many people looking me over to try to figure out how I'll fit into their freezers; and I've never been comfortable in religious circles of any kind. But the Conservatives seem friendly enough so far, and we desperately need friends, so we'll forge on ahead.

I wish you the best.

Shalom shalom :)
 
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ThereseTheLittleFlower said:
At one time I thought about looking into Judaism but never did it, it was suggested to me because my biological father is Jewish (not practicing though), and it was posed why don't you practice it, because it's in your bloodline.
Well next Saturday, I plan on attending a service, what should I expect? I figured that'd attend for like a month or so, and see how I like it, that way not to make an hasty decisions, like I did when I joined the Catholic Church, i'm bad about that.
Also, what does Judaic mean? That's what the Synagogue I was thinking about going to, is listed as in the phonebook.
Another question: I still believe in Jesus, yet if I choose to practice Judaism, I don't want to be a Messianic Jew, I feel the traditional way is the way to practice a religion. I was told by a friend of mine's father that, on my journey that wouldn't be the important thing. But i'm worried wouldn't it cause a problem?
Thanks for the help in advance you guys!
REN

Christianity and Judaism are not compatible religions. If you believe that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God, then this makes you a Christian. I don't object to you using your free will to choose whatever religion you like. But please remember that Judaism is not "Christianity minus Jesus." It is an entirely different religion. You cannot be a Jew without rejecting your Christian beliefs. Therefore, please consider this carefully.
 
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Christianity and Judaism are not compatible religions
I disagree with you on this statement. Christianity Originally was a sect of Judaism. The practices were the same, everything was the same~ with the addition of Yeshua/Jesus being recognized as the Messiah.

NOWadays, Christianity is a completely different "religion" unto itself. It looks very very different than Judaism, which is extremely unfortunate. Christianity has become rather anti-semitic... with their replacement theologies and "cleansing" of the new testament of it's Hebrew roots.

I was born-again 27 yrs ago, and up until a few years ago, was heavily involved in born-again churches and Christianity in general. Messianic Judaism is the closest thing there is to the Original beginnings of the "church" in the book of Acts.
 
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Shalom Jgonz,

jgonz said:
I disagree with you on this statement. Christianity Originally was a sect of Judaism. The practices were the same, everything was the same~ with the addition of Yeshua/Jesus being recognized as the Messiah..

Arunma is quite correct. You really have no idea how the earliest christian practiced, since today's services are based on Rabbincal works that pre-date/post-date and are contemporary of Jesus, that reject outright, all of the doctrines that make Christanity unique.
 
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