Attacks on muslims in UK skyrocket

[CJ.23]

Predictably morons are attacking British Asians and muslims in frustration at terrorism. This is what the terrorist wanted I suppose; a divided country?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4723339.stm

 

[whitmorris]

What do people expect? The media is constantly pinpointing the muslim group and the bristish are being attacked. It only makes since that the british people are going to attack the "monsters" that are destroying their country.

 

[CJ.23]

What do people expect? The media is constantly pinpointing the muslim group and the bristish are being attacked. It only makes since that the british people are going to attack the "monsters" that are destroying their country.

The muslim population is 1.6 million people, out of about 60 million, so nearly 3% of the population. You would hope most people realised that we have had a handful of terrorists.

cj x

 

[mpshiel]

There is absolutely NO LINK whatsoever between the people, the editorials and the comments about how Muslims haven't been doing enough against terrorism, that Islam is the problem behind terrorism and that by not doing enough to attack terrorism Muslims are somehow complicit with it - no link between that, and those people who actually believe those statments and then act on them (by attacking muslims, who must after all "know" the terrorists, or be sympathetic, etc).

 

[blueapplepaste]

Attacking innocent people because of their religion dehumanizes everyone involved. It was a sad day in the US when this happened after 9/11; it is a sad day for the UK. I pray for the innoncent Muslims and I pray that God will have mercy on those who attack the innoncent.

 

[Kelly]

The media is constantly pinpointing the muslim group and the bristish are being attacked.

What other types of religious backgrounds did the people have who were involved in the recent bombings?

 

[rosenherman]

There is absolutely NO LINK whatsoever between the people, the editorials and the comments about how Muslims haven't been doing enough against terrorism, that Islam is the problem behind terrorism and that by not doing enough to attack terrorism Muslims are somehow complicit with it - no link between that, and those people who actually believe those statments and then act on them (by attacking muslims, who must after all "know" the terrorists, or be sympathetic, etc).

Of course there is a link. You have been attacked by a a group of people, you are being threatened by the same group of people, and only that group of people, you want to do something to ameliorate the threat so you attack members of that group. You hope by attacking them that the group will get the message and back off. But, it doesn't work, because you have a lack of resources and because "we must protect the innocent members of that group from any hassles at all, even to the point of letting the guilty members of that group get away."

 

[rahma]

Of course there is a link. You have been attacked by a a group of people, you are being threatened by the same group of people, and only that group of people, you want to do something to ameliorate the threat so you attack members of that group. You hope by attacking them that the group will get the message and back off. But , it doesn't work, because you have a lack of resources and because "we must protect the innocent members of that group from any hassles at all, even to the point of letting the guilty members of that group get away."

We must make sure everyone all over the world likes us. Protect and support ourselves? Oh my no!!! This may make others dislike us. It's okay if they kill us, I mean, we had it coming! We can't go and bomb them in retaliation because hey, we had it coming.

(It's too bad this isn't voice chat, so you could hear the sarcasm dripping from the words.)

I'm a bit confused here. Are you supporting the bomb threats and arson attacks on mosques? The random groups of people beating up on muslim-looking individuals? Verbal harrasment? Murder? People throwing bricks through muslim families' windows?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Of course there is a link. You have been attacked by a a group of people, you are being threatened by the same group of people, and only that group of people, you want to do something to ameliorate the threat so you attack members of that group. You hope by attacking them that the group will get the message and back off. But , it doesn't work, because you have a lack of resources and because "we must protect the innocent members of that group from any hassles at all, even to the point of letting the guilty members of that group get away."

We must make sure everyone all over the world likes us. Protect and support ourselves? Oh my no!!! This may make others dislike us. It's okay if they kill us, I mean, we had it coming! We can't go and bomb them in retaliation because hey, we had it coming.

(It's too bad this isn't voice chat, so you could hear the sarcasm dripping from the words.)

So the answer then is to keep attacking Muslims at random, knowing that sooner or later you'll get a terrorist.

Kill 'em all, right?

(No voice chat necessary.)

 

[rosenherman]

Actually I'm not supporting any of that. I was pointing out the errancy of mpshiel's post :

There is absolutely NO LINK whatsoever between the people, the editorials and the comments about how Muslims haven't been doing enough against terrorism, that Islam is the problem behind terrorism and that by not doing enough to attack terrorism Muslims are somehow complicit with it - no link between that, and those people who actually believe those statments and then act on them (by attacking muslims, who must after all "know" the terrorists, or be sympathetic, etc).

Without actually coming out and saying it's a bunch of bilge.

 

[rahma]

Actually I'm not supporting any of that. I was pointing out the errancy of mpshiel's post :


Without actually coming out and saying it's a bunch of bilge.

I believe the "attacking" mpshiel is talking about is the attacking mentioned in the article, which I summarized in my previous post.

 

[rahma]

So the answer then is to keep attacking Muslims at random, knowing that sooner or later you'll get a terrorist.

Kill 'em all, right?

(No voice chat necessary.)

Of course, if there are no muslims, there will be no terrorism (or so some pundits have theorized). I say we take it a step further. If there are no people, there would be no murder. If there are no people, there would be no crime. Let's just wipe out everyone, and then the world will be perfect.

 

[Yamialpha]

Doesn't surprise me-I was in Chester on July 7 and I remember this muslim man on the radio talking about how he and his 2-year-old daughter were walking down the street when someone threw an orange at them. Many similar things happened here in the US after 9-11.

 

[rosenherman]

Of course, if there are no muslims, there will be no terrorism (or so some pundits have theorized). I say we take it a step further. If there are no people, there would be no murder. If there are no people, there would be no crime. Let's just wipe out everyone, and then the world will be perfect.

You have a point. The more people I meet, the more I like my cats.

 

[rahma]

You have a point. The more people I meet, the more I like my cats.

I dunno, Diego, the cat in my picture, is one eeevil dude. He beats up on dogs, cats, ferrets, anyone and anything that can get in his way.

 

[rosenherman]

Thanks for the warning, I'll stay out of his way.

 

[Machjo]

So the answer then is to keep attacking Muslims at random, knowing that sooner or later you'll get a terrorist.

Kill 'em all, right?

(No voice chat necessary.)

Weren't the terrorists also attacking people at random? So it would seem those who've attacked Muslims randomly have effectively joined the ranks of the terrorsits. Now we have terrorsits on both sides!

 

[Machjo]

The end of the article stated:

"Eight juveniles and a man have been arrested."

Interesting that it didn't say:

"Eight juvenile and one adult Christian were arrested."

or:

"Eight Anglosaxon juveniles and one anglosaxon man were arrested".

or:

"Eight juvenile and one adult caucasian were arrested."

or:

"Eight juveniles and a man have been arrested. They were all whites born in the UK."

I suppose this means we now have a right to go out and start pummelling churches, spewing that Christianity supports murder, Christians are complicit by not speaking out against this and ought to report such people, etc. etc. etc.?

Why teh double standard.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

The end of the article stated: "Eight juveniles and a man have been arrested." Interesting that it didn't say:

"Eight juvenile and one adult Christian were arrested."
or:
"Eight Anglosaxon juveniles and one anglosaxon man were arrested".
or:
"Eight juvenile and one adult caucasian were arrested."
or:
"Eight juveniles and a man have been arrested. They were all whites born in the UK."

Why teh double standard.

Why do you assume that the perpetrators were white and/or Christian ? A double double-standard ?

 

[CJ.23]

The end of the article stated:

"Eight juveniles and a man have been arrested."

Interesting that it didn't say:

"Eight juvenile and one adult Christian were arrested."

or:

"Eight Anglosaxon juveniles and one anglosaxon man were arrested".

or:

"Eight juvenile and one adult caucasian were arrested."

or:

"Eight juveniles and a man have been arrested. They were all whites born in the UK."

I suppose this means we now have a right to go out and start pummelling churches, spewing that Christianity supports murder, Christians are complicit by not speaking out against this and ought to report such people, etc. etc. etc.?

Why teh double standard.

Well being a Christian in the UK might be unlikely, if church attendance is anything to go by. And I very much doubt they were Anglo-Saxon. They might have been part Celt, part Angle, part Saxon, part Jute, part Viking, part Waloon, part Norman, part Roman, part Eastern European though. I'd guess that is rather more likely.

If you mean were they caucasians, yes probably, but so are the majority muslim population coming from Pakistan and India. Race does not eneter in to this, though skin colour might.

cj x