Atheistic dinosaurs

[gamespotter10]

Is it even worth noting that a forty year-old woman under the name GentleChristianMommy just used the word "owned"?

LOL

 

[Byelotsar]

The best incorrect answer is not anymore truthful then the worst incorrect answer.

This reminds me of an Asimov quote, one of my favorites: "…when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."

 

[necroforest]

The best incorrect answer is not anymore truthful then the worst incorrect answer.

Classical mechanics is wrong. Yet that bridge you drive over on your way to work doesn't collapse because of it. Classical electromagnetism is wrong. Yet the lights in your house still work. Even though both are technically "wrong", they both describe reality accurately enough that you can't tell that they're wrong unless you get really small or really fast.

 

[RichardT]

Ignore . . . can't be valid. Tomato . . . . tomauto

There's a big difference actually. We will work with all of the data.

Check out the reality of my above statement by checking out the RATE book.

http://www.icr.org/pdf/research/rate-all.pdf

 

[Nitron]

LOL

well, AV does use "pwn"

 

[FishFace]

There's a big difference actually. We will work with all of the data.

Check out the reality of my above statement by checking out the RATE book.

http://www.icr.org/pdf/research/rate-all.pdf

I thought the RATE project wanted to discard all the data because it only looked at a few data points?

 

[The Bellman]

There's a big difference actually. We will work with all of the data.

Except for the data which conflicts with religious belief.

 

[corvus_corax]

There's a big difference actually. We will work with all of the data.

And "we" are ... ?
YEC's?
OEC's?
GAP theorists?
Christians who fully accept the theory of biological evolution?
Intelligent Design fantasizers (who are so cowardly as to not even name the "designer")?
Fudamentalist Creationists?

No, seriously, who is this mysterious "we" you are speaking of?

EDIT- Personally, I think that this "we" are "those" who agree with your personal interpretation of the Bible. Prove me wrong

 

[necroforest]

Geocentrists?

 

[Blayz]

There's a big difference actually. We will work with all of the data.

Check out the reality of my above statement by checking out the RATE book.

http://www.icr.org/pdf/research/rate-all.pdf

I actually downloaded this document, and spent half an hour skimming through its 686 pages. I couldn't find 1 case where any of these people performed their own experiments.

If you are going to do science then you should actually do science.

Lets have a look at chapter 2, "Radioisotope Dating Review", which runs for 20 pages. As a scientific review, you would expect it to comprehensively look at recent publications in the scientific literature. Books and other reviews do not count, since books are by definition "old" by the time they are published, and a reviewer that reviews a review is just being lazy.

Chapter 1 has 10 references. 10! Not the 100 you would expect, but 10. Bibliography does not count since it is not referenced in the text (and no real scientific review would list a bibliography anyway). Of those 10 references, 2 are from peer-reviewed journals, with dates 1969 and 1979.

And this is for a year 2000 review.

To suggest this is in anyway credible, or worth the $20 000 they spent publishing it, is just wrong.

 

[corvus_corax]

Geocentrists?

From RichardT-
"First and foremost, it must be stated that even if I didn't understand how stellar parallax worked within any Geocentric model, I would still believe that the earth absolutely did not move and that the sun went around the earth"
(emphasis mine)
Believe it or not.

 

[RichardT]

From RichardT-
"First and foremost, it must be stated that even if I didn't understand how stellar parallax worked within any Geocentric model, I would still believe that the earth absolutely did not move and that the sun went around the earth"
(emphasis mine)
Believe it or not.

I believe it.

 

[thaumaturgy]

I actually downloaded this document, and spent half an hour skimming through its 686 pages. I couldn't find 1 case where any of these people performed their own experiments.

If you are going to do science then you should actually do science.

Lets have a look at chapter 2, "Radioisotope Dating Review", which runs for 20 pages. As a scientific review, you would expect it to comprehensively look at recent publications in the scientific literature. Books and other reviews do not count, since books are by definition "old" by the time they are published, and a reviewer that reviews a review is just being lazy.

Chapter 1 has 10 references. 10! Not the 100 you would expect, but 10. Bibliography does not count since it is not referenced in the text (and no real scientific review would list a bibliography anyway). Of those 10 references, 2 are from peer-reviewed journals, with dates 1969 and 1979.

And this is for a year 2000 review.

To suggest this is in anyway credible, or worth the $20 000 they spent publishing it, is just wrong.

I am definitely going to have read through this gem.

I fast forwarded to the "Scientific evidence for a young world" table on page 339.

Apparently all the references are Creationist references cited in creationist journals. No standard non-creationist journals represented?

Talk about "in-breeding". Maybe if they could bother to look outside of their own congregation they'd make a better case.

 

[Lilandra]

By your reasoning, is this also angel?

Scientists usually don't call things an oddity and give up. Long fingers are structural adaptations. There is always an environmental reason for adaptations that become widespread in a species.

What other explanation than the dinosaur being an angel or the animal in the picture being an angel would explain their fingers?

Worldviews affect conclusions very much when it comes to paleontology. One example is scansiopteryx. This feathered dinosaur had very long third fingers. Atheists see this as just another oddity in a world that they deny points overwhelmingly to creation.

http[dot]//oficina[dot]cienciaviva[dot]pt/~pw011/jazidas/JaimeHeaddenEpidendrosaurus%5B1%5D.jpg

^Just in case you're ignorant.

However, Christians see something entiraly different. They see one of the wondrous marvels of God's creation. It goes even deeper than that. Long fingers are very similar to spears, which angels have. Angels also have feathery wings. Based on theology, it is safe to suggest paleontologists angelic animals of company in China.

 

[united4Peace]

How is it racist? You are aware that 'n!gg3r' is spelled with two G’s and Niger is a country in Northern Africa, there is a big difference. The idea of having a dinosaur whose name literally means the "Niger lizard” is not that absurd, if you look at the periodic table of the elements you will find roughly a dozen elements that are named after nouns like California, Einstein, and Germany.

I am not a paleontologist, nor have I studied it much. But I do see some common characteristics among these two creatures. They both have exceptionally long necks. Long necks are great for getting food that is located above ground level, but it also slows the creature down and puts more strain on the circulatory system therefore creatures are not going to have this characteristic for no reason.

Hmmm makes me think of Barbie

 

[corvus_corax]

Geocentrists?

I believe it.

See, necro?

Flat earthers and believers in magic incantations exist as well.

 

[TheOutsider]

All evolutionary theory is flawed and yet that is promoted and taught to children, simply because GOD is considered a dirty word among liberals...

Be careful. I heard that there is a liberal evilutionist hiding under your bed. BOOGA BOOGA!!!

 

[TroubleShooter43]

I've read through many of the posts here (not all, there are simply too many) but I am struck by the complete wilful ignorance of some of the posters who would rather embrace fantasy than simply acknowledge reality. I realise that living in a fantasy environment is safer and more comforting but to then try and impose that fantasy on the world and to try and twist facts to fit into the fantasy is just malicious. And to compound the issue, the people who attempt to do this then cry foul about how they are persecuted for their beliefs. This is all just truly insane! Accept the absolute fact that creationism is a fantasy but Evolution is fact. You would be surprised how little difference there is in your life once you do this.

 

[united4Peace]

I once sent an email to Project Exploration saying "what is your stance on black people?" hey never wrote back, proving they have something to hide.

In fact, I think Sereno is a KKK ringleader. No evidence, just a personal theory of mine.

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/nazis.htm


KKK leaders usually hold Christian view...what I mean is they believe the Bible is inerrant.

 

[tanzanos]

Good Lord!
The archangel Gabriel was a feathered dinosaur????????