Atheism (3)

[quatona]

but back on topic,

The topic is atheism.

God cares about our motives how about that?

Well, it pretty much shows that Christians to whom

steeling a paper clip does create revulsion

do not care about what the god of your concept allegedly cares about.

 

[dlamberth]

if it's required for salvation you do.

My interest is in making God a reality in my life. I leave any and all questions about my "salvation" up to God. That's His stuff, not mine. So it's not even in my radar and has no place for my Love of my Beloved God.

1 john 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

I find those words as being very true. When its put into practice, for those who are truly interested in making God a reality in their lives, Love is given as the "Way" to get there. It's the ego that needs "Laws" but the ego can not make God a reality. But Love sure can. But not when it's practiced as a "law".

The nature of Love is that True Love bubbles up from ones heart. It's the same with loving God. If it comes from ones heart...it will be True and God will respond.

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[dlamberth]

The topic is atheism.

Have you seen the bumper sticker that says:
"Lord, please save me from your believers".

Having been there myself, I've come to believe that the "religion" called Christianity is a major instigator in the creation of Atheist.

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[Dave Ellis]

steeling a paper clip does create revulsion in christians.

Are you saying stealing a paper clip creates as much revulsion in you as the holocaust?

Are you actually serious?

 

[Gadarene]

Are you saying stealing a paper clip creates as much revulsion in you as the holocaust?

Are you actually serious?

This is either overrating theft of office supplies, or seriously diminishing one of the worst atrocities.

 

[Dave Ellis]

This is either overrating theft of office supplies, or seriously diminishing one of the worst atrocities.

Yes, but apparently to a Christian, they're equal.

Which would of course leave us wondering why God didn't wire us to view them as equal acts.

 

[Elioenai26]

Yes, but apparently to a Christian, they're equal.

Which would of course leave us wondering why God didn't wire us to view them as equal acts.

In God's sight, one is the same as the other in that both actions are sinful. That is all gradyll is saying.

God's standards are not our standards for Christ has said that the mere lusting after a woman in our hearts is the same as committing adultery for example.

 

[Gadarene]

In God's sight, one is the same as the other in that both actions are sinful. That is all gradyll is saying.

God's standards are not our standards for Christ has said that the mere lusting after a woman in our hearts is the same as committing adultery for example.

It doesn't alter the argument. Most Christians still acknowledge that in practical terms the two are greatly removed from one another, and that's usually what revulsion to an act is based on. Most Christians wouldn't, despite the assertion to the contrary, feel the same way about office supply theft that they would the holocaust.

 

[Elioenai26]

It doesn't alter the argument. Most Christians still acknowledge that in practical terms the two are greatly removed from one another, and that's usually what revulsion to an act is based on. Most Christians wouldn't, despite the assertion to the contrary, feel the same way about office supply theft that they would the holocaust.

Of course they would not feel the same. I dont think anyone here is maintaining that they would!

 

[Dave Ellis]

In God's sight, one is the same as the other in that both actions are sinful. That is all gradyll is saying.

God's standards are not our standards for Christ has said that the mere lusting after a woman in our hearts is the same as committing adultery for example.

Well, if in God's eyes stealing a paperclip is as bad as the holocaust.... why didn't he make us humans look at the two as equally as bad?

Why didn't he make all sins appear vile and revolting to us? It would have made it far easier to avoid sin, unless we were purposefully going out of our way to do it.

 

[Elioenai26]

Well, if in God's eyes stealing a paperclip is as bad as the holocaust.... why didn't he make us humans look at the two as equally as bad?

Why didn't he make all sins appear vile and revolting to us? It would have made it far easier to avoid sin, unless we were purposefully going out of our way to do it.

God has shown us what sin looks like. We must look at Christ flogged, scourged, spit upon, beat, mocked, stripped, ridiculed, and crucified with a crown of thorns upon His head.

This is sin. This is the result that comes from men choosing rebellion over obedience, prideful self- worship over worship of the one true God.

 

[Danyc]

Though we must always keep in mind that discussions of these subjects are fairly silly considering the initial premise that this god even exists in the first place has yet to be proven.

 

[Dave Ellis]

God has shown us what sin looks like. We must look at Christ flogged, scourged, spit upon, beat, mocked, stripped, ridiculed, and crucified with a crown of thorns upon His head.

This is sin. This is the result that comes from men choosing rebellion over obedience, prideful self- worship over worship of the one true God.

How many times do I have to ask the same question before somebody answers it on here?

Your answer is completely irrelevant to what I asked.

 

[Danyc]

How many times do I have to ask the same question before somebody answers it on here?

Your answer is completely irrelevant to what I asked.

I'm used to it by this point.

 

[createdtoworship]

Are you saying stealing a paper clip creates as much revulsion in you as the holocaust?

Are you actually serious?

to God hate is the same as murder so yes.

 

[dlamberth]

How many times do I have to ask the same question before somebody answers it on here?

Maybe one more time...please.

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[Dave Ellis]

to God hate is the same as murder so yes.

Again, that completely avoids the point!

Hate may be the same as murder.... But why is it the same as stealing a paperclip?

And if it is the same, WHY do us humans not view it as so?

 

[createdtoworship]

Again, that completely avoids the point!

Hate may be the same as murder.... But why is it the same as stealing a paperclip?

And if it is the same, WHY do us humans not view it as so?

sin is all the same to God. Some believe that Hell has different places for different people of various caliber sin. But I dont' personally hold that view. I think all sin is sin. We are either under sin or we are saved. Before Christ came we were under adams sin ( which was just a fruit being stolen and ate) but when we are saved we are under Christ.

 

[Danyc]

Not even capitalized, underlined, and bright red makes a difference it seems.

 

[Dave Ellis]

sin is all the same to God. Some believe that Hell has different places for different people of various caliber sin. But I dont' personally hold that view. I think all sin is sin. We are either under sin or we are saved. Before Christ came we were under adams sin ( which was just a fruit being stolen and ate) but when we are saved we are under Christ.

Who's talking about God? Why do you keep answering with the exact same off-topic answer?

I've been asking about HUMAN perception of sin, why do WE not view all sin as equal?

Don't answer with what God thinks, that's completely irrelevant. I'm asking why we were made in a way why we don't view all sin as equally bad. It would have provided us a chance at living life without sin.