Ask the Atheist

[Trish1947]

"Actually there's quite a few scriptures that refer to the breath of God. It's not the same as our needing to exchange for oxygen. But the Bible says that God is a Spirit. So according to scripture when referring to the breath of God would be His Spirit. Which is life.


Job 27:3 All the while my breath [is] in me, and the spirit of God [is] in my nostrils;

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: "

Trish, the problem with this response is that, to a non-believer, it is exceedingly silly to quote Biblical verses to convince someone theological in nature. The "breath" of God, being proven as real because the Bible says so, isn't convincing to anyone but those who already ascribe to the faith.

-MSB

I can't prove to you faith. Every person has to find this out for themselves. When you find it, and it's Gods word that is able to produce faith, you find that it is no longer necessary to hunt for answers else where. But that's what faith is. The Bible says "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the EVIDENCE of things not yet seen." For the Christian, being given Faith is all the Evidence a person needs. It's something they didn't produce within themselves. This comes from God, through the Word. Not very scientific I know, but faith isn't about scientific proofs. People of faith won't be convienced by anything other than the Word, and so the person that want's scientific backup won't be convienced by anything other.. But it's been nice discussing it with you anyway.

 

[Tynan]

And neither does what you believe or not believe have any bearing whatsoever on what truth is. Truth, if it is ultimate truth, has no dependence whatsoever on what you or I think the truth is.

Of course.

Here we agree.

What is ultimately depressing is if there is no ultimate truth, which obviously you don't think there is, and that's depressing and very sad.

I do not understand what you are implying by the phrase 'ultimate truth' so cannot comment of whether I believe there is a 'ultimate truth' or not.

And like I have already said, the fact either you or I find something sad or depressing say nothing about it validity and much more about ones personal outlook.

 

[JoyforJESUS]

mattseanbachman,

I am not trying to change your mind, or your heart. Unfortuantly there is not much that as a Christian, can say to change your mind or heart.

But I have one question for you if I may ask (might be a 2 part question....

Do you mind if I as a Christian, and other Christians pray for your salvation, and a return to God?

joyforjesus

I thought I would ask again,

My Question: Do you mind if I as a Christian, and other Christians pray for you?

 

[JoyforJESUS]

I thought I would ask again,

My Question: Do you mind if I as a Christian, and other Christians pray for you?

it appears that he will not answer all questions.

 

[0rion]

it appears that he will not answer all questions.

As per his last thread, I don't think he'd be able to answer you if he wanted to...

 

[JoyforJESUS]

As per his last thread, I don't think he'd be able to answer you if he wanted to...

I don't think he wants to, he has opened other threads...

 

[Ryal Kane]

I thought I would ask again,

My Question: Do you mind if I as a Christian, and other Christians pray for you?

I'm an atheist. I guess I don't mind. It meant that people are wanting the best for you, even though I consider it misguided. I don't see prayer as being any more than a form of meditation and self reflection (aside form the religious reenforcement element)

I have no problem with people praying however they want. Altough praying directly to my face in an attempt to convert / exorcise me would probably cross the line.

 

[I'ddie4him]

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