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Chris B

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Because we (all of us and all there is in the Universe) is no more separated from God than a fish swimming in the Ocean is separated from water.

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Well that's a belief. No problem there.
If you want to promote it to assured universal truth, that's going to need some fairly substantial support.
(Belief, however sincere, firm or even vehement, does not really weigh in, in this respect.)
 
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I don't think our positions matter all that much any more than the position of a fish swimming in the Ocean trying to decide if water exist or not.

If that is indeed an appropriate analogy. It can be proposed. That doesn't make it so.
Maybe it's only a lizard having a confusing fish dream.
 
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Well that's a belief. No problem there.
If you want to promote it to assured universal truth, that's going to need some fairly substantial support.
(Belief, however sincere, firm or even vehement, does not really weigh in, in this respect.)
Well, it more of a reality kind of thing. But there's no way I'd promote my reality for you or anyone else to accept. That would be wrong of me. Each of us has our own spiritual evolution we have to go through. Its un-avoidable.
 
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If that is indeed an appropriate analogy. It can be proposed. That doesn't make it so.
Maybe it's only a lizard having a confusing fish dream.
When I see fish swimming in water, those are not lizards I see. Question: With out confusing the question with lizards, does a fish know that they are swimming in water?
 
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We all have our own worldview. Mine doesn't involve words written in a book to be truth, they maybe, but not to me if they don't fit my worldview.
(Sorry OP, for this) - which of the words in the bible (I assume is what you mean) appear to not be truth and to not fit your world view? I have found the opposite actually, that my world view identifies the truth to be consistent with how the world view of the bible writers influenced their understanding and expression of truth. Also, are you really against acknowledging the persons who wrote the bible and instead calling it an impersonal "book"? That seems like a really wrong thing to do. Those writers are actually very thoughtful.
So to invert the questioning, what do you consider so obvious and indisputable, incontrovertible, about the existence of God which means that there is no possibility, however small, of a universe with no deity being an honest and rational conclusion?

I can't think of any route which reaches that without at least a missed alternative somewhere in the chain of thought.
It is that when I speak with Him, I know it is no other person but Him.
 
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When I see fish swimming in water, those are not lizards I see. Question: With out confusing the question with lizards, does a fish know that they are swimming in water?

I have never been a fish, so I can't tell you for sure.

What I can say, is if a fish is out of water, they make a desperate attempt to get back in it.
 
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I've found each denomination has their Truths & their Errors.
How many errors of the Non-Denominational Church have you found?
I'm way more interested in how a spiritual direction brings one into the presence of God.
 
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.What I can say, is if a fish is out of water, they make a desperate attempt to get back in it.
I love your analogy. Thank You!! It has given me a different and very nice perspective as I work with the spiritual practice of Remembrance.
 
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One was to prevent the extinction of mankind. Another was to demonstrate His righteous wrath against sin. Another was to protect the righteous from the evil machinations of fallen men.
I was referring to these questions specifically.
 
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"Christianity" as used here is simply too broad a term for me to interact with. It covers too many things so I ask that you be more specific please.
I couldn't be more specific than that. I even gave you a specific example to work with (the doctrine of Christ's divinity).
 
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Indeed. I am truly hoping that one of these philosophers are able to give me an insightful response, instead of giving me multiple definitions of the word jealous.

God views his people as His bride. When his people worship other false gods he refers to His people as adulterous. Would you be jealous if your spouse was attracted to something else more than you?
 
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God views his people as His bride. When his people worship other false gods he refers to His people as adulterous. Would you be jealous of your spouse was attracted to something else more that you?
If you were to marry someone, would you view your bride as your equal?
 
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If you were to marry someone, would you view your bride as your equal?

God has not yet officially "married" his bride yet. The consecration is yet to happen. (End times)

The husband is the be the leader of the household. We are considered the bride of Christ. He is the leader.
 
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If by sincere atheist, you intend to signify a person who will have an excuse when they stand before God for their unbelief, then yes, the epistle to the Christians in Rome written by the apostle Paul denies that such people could exist because God, being who He is, cannot hold someone accountable for failing to believe in Him if He had not given them sufficient light to make unbelief inexcusable.
To be clear, we are talking about a character in a book that remains, by every objective measure to date, indistinguishable from fiction, correct?
 
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