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Its a matter of faith in what we have been told from those who come from the other side. There are no gurantees, even evolutionary life didn't foresee with certainty.
There is an issue that we need to clarify, life was designed with all this uncertainty for a reason, we are supposed to be experiencing the search for values, for material and spiritual truth. We are in spiritual kindergarten on this world. And for what it's worth in my theology life after death adds nothing to us once we awake in the resurrection on the next world aside from the fact of survival. Faith will always be with us as we make our way inward to the spiritual presence of the Universal Father
If i have a strong enough psychological desire to believe in Thor as my God, guess what would happen?
Would you agree God put a design and system in place where sin was necessary?
Ken
*God designed humans and animals to procreate, without the necessity of eventually dying,
*He put a system in place where sin was possible to be discovered which would result in the possibility of dying.
How come you can’t agree that sin was necessary in order for the requirement of dying to be accomplished?
Ken
before Adam and Eve sinned, there was no death. Now they obviously had sex organs.....
Sounds to me like god created a problem so there could be a solution to this problem.The problem is with the misapplication of the word "necessary" in the question.
Does the best possible universe deal with moral evil? (the inevitable byproduct of freewill when the potential for moral evil is not removed).
Is God in the process of dealing with moral evil via a temporary creation? Yes.
Why not?But that doesn't exactly mean that sin/moral evil are necessary. Holy angels never sin... God could have
just had a universe with holy angels and prevented their fall by showing them hypothetical demonstrations...
but that does NOT make it (such a schema) the best possible universe.
Based on your conduct to date, I have good reason to doubt that.
If you think intellectual honesty is important in the pursuit of truth, then why wouldn't you approach that question openly? Also, why did you claim to be open if you aren't?
Paging @anonymous person.Given what is supposedly at stake in these matters, the way in which you know your beliefs to be true should be of utmost importance! If there really is a Satan who is trying to deceive you as a means of securing your damnation, then it is very important that you know you have acquired beliefs that are genuinely salvific, and not beliefs that you have honestly mistaken as salvific, but which would actually condemn to you Hell.
Sounds to me like god created a problem so there could be a solution to this problem.
Why not?
Why ever compare God to Thor?
Why engage in such a foolish category error? If you wanted to compare Thor to angels then perhaps
there would be a reason for polemics... but comparing the Infinite Creator of the universe to a finite
"god" is clearly a failure to engage in proper intellectual and conceptual taxonomy.
Which "spiritual problem" would that be?Or God created a physical solution to a spiritual problem.
Which "spiritual problem" would that be?
Besides, one would expect omnimax God to be able to slove a spiritual problem spiritually. Actually, one would expect him to be able to solve it instantly and directly.
This response doesn´t match the question.From spiritual perspective, it is finished. From the physical perspective, it's not yet finished.
Sounds to me like god created a problem so there could be a solution to this problem.
Why not?
(emphasis added)1. God created.
2. God created cognitive beings who could love. (and self-generate volition)
3. Creating beings who can love.... creates beings who have an ability to
create a potential byproduct of moral evil.
4. Love requires freewill....obedience requires freewill....genuine relationship
requires freewill....worship requires freewill...etc
5. Freewill can create a problem (potential) which has to be dealt with.
That is what God is doing in this temporary creation... (and more). God is dealing
with the "real" problem of evil... NOT explaining it..(why there is evil)... that's not
a problem... the REAL problem of evil is how IT (moral evil/sin) is a danger to the
creature...because of the absolute Holiness and Justice of the Perfect Creator.
Question everything.
If you think so.There is something about the quality of relationship that comes from restoration and forgiveness.
There is something about the demonstration of LOVE that comes from Self-Sacrifice.
Without a contrast of justice and mercy/grace... we wouldn't even fully understand what these
things are.
The best possible universe is one where we know how much God loved/loves us...and one
where we know what grace/mercy really is.
(emphasis added)
As I said, without creation the problem wouldn´t even exist.
Can God be God without a creation?
IOW, a God existing and not creating anything would be the most selfish God ever.
You describe how God is in need of "evil".
Sounds to me like god created a problem so there could be a solution to this problem.
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