As It Was In The Days Of Sodom...

[3rddaymessenger]

It’s Harvest Time

“History repeats itself.” Have you ever heard that? Well, it can be very true. Especially when we consider Biblical events and Prophetic fulfillment of Scriptures.

History is truly repeating itself and, actually, upon a grander scale of manifestation and influence. Many things that happened in Old Testament times were a kind of “seed form” of what was going to come to a full head in these end times. Things that took place as centrally located incidences - in cities, will now take place on a world-wide scale of manifestation and Judgment.

Case in point: Public and even, Political acceptance of Homosexuality as it was in Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19: 1-26). This is exactly the condition Sodom and Gomorrah were in just before God rained down “fire and brimstone” and destroyed them all, except for the Righteous who escaped.

Truly, as we see these things come to pass in our very day, it is very sad and tragic, but at the same time - as Christians - we can take courage and rejoice that God is about to empower His people for Spiritual Warfare, and send His cleansing Fire upon the perversion and filth of this world.

“Rejoice ye Heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth...” Rev. 12:12

Be aware of these things. God does not send judgment until He first warns. Be Warned! Make ready! This cleansing, destroying Judgment is now on the horizon and about to strike.

Repent! And be found safe and secure in Christ-alone. He is your only Safe-Place. Separate yourself from the perversions of this world and stand firm against it. Don’t be afraid of the immoral majority. God has ALWAYS dealt with and used and manifested His favor with the chosen and Righteous minority.

Yes, history repeats itself. But there is also a Harvest and a finality to Gods’ purposes. The harvest is ripe - of the wicked and of the Righteous, and the Final Judgment upon wickedness and the Final Vindication for the Righteous is about to unfold! What Harvest will you be in?

 

[jamielindas]

How does one prove that the sin of Sodom wasn't gang rape rather than homosexuality?
or was it bad hospitality in the form of gang rape?
how exactly was Lot the pillar of righteousness if he was willing to offer up his daughters for gang rape?

 

[3rddaymessenger]

HOMOSEXUALITY IS WORSE!

And denying the obvious Truth of those Scriptures is "adding sin to sin". Talk about digging your own grave!

 

[jamielindas]

HOMOSEXUALITY IS WORSE!

And denying the obvious Truth of those Scriptures is "adding sin to sin". Talk about digging your own grave!

really? homosexuality is worse than gang rape?
any logical reason for that other then your misreading of scripture?

 

[KCKID]

HOMOSEXUALITY IS WORSE!

And denying the obvious Truth of those Scriptures is "adding sin to sin". Talk about digging your own grave!

I am far from convinced that the words of this poster are representative of the ideals of Jesus.

 

[jamielindas]

<STAFF EDIT>

What was your feeling on civil marriage? The fact that christians, muslims, atheists, and jews could all get married without the church ever being involved? These marriages were all still sacred to you since they were heterosexual in nature?
Being an Atheist or a Muslim is acceptable, as long as you're heterosexual?

 

[3rddaymessenger]

What was your feeling on civil marriage? The fact that christians, muslims, atheists, and jews could all get married without the church ever being involved? These marriages were all still sacred to you since they were heterosexual in nature?
Being an Atheist or a Muslim is acceptable, as long as you're heterosexual?

Absolutely, "marriage is honorable in all", and when the Scripture says that...It takes for granted normal human-beings know that it refers to man and woman...OBVOUSLY. Why do you think God made a man and a woman? Like...duuuhhh!

Now I'm really getting theological!!! It's like dealing with disorderly children!

 

[jamielindas]

Absolutely, "marriage is honorable in all", and when the Scripture says that...It takes for granted normal human-beings know that it refers to man and woman...OBVOUSLY. Why do you think God made a man and a woman? Like...duuuhhh!

Now I'm really getting theological!!! It's like dealing with disorderly children!

Assumptions....
You've already made the assumption that the Bible is fact and that God made man and women with purpose. The evidence speaks to the contrary. I'm an empiricist by nature and require supporting evidence for my beliefs. Please support these assumptions with supporting evidence if you wish me to accept them.

Normal..
You used this word again, but you don't clarify what you mean by it. Mean? Mode? Median? Commonly occurring?

There are a lot of things the humanity does that doesn't fit with the Bible and its teachings. Why are these things not illegal?

Why should atheist marriage be legal, but gay marriage illegal?

Birth control and contraception is unnatural and the Bible makes it clear that God wishes procreation. Why not work towards outlawing these?

 

[3rddaymessenger]

Assumptions....
You've already made the assumption that the Bible is fact and that God made man and women with purpose. The evidence speaks to the contrary. I'm an empiricist by nature and require supporting evidence for my beliefs. Please support these assumptions with supporting evidence if you wish me to accept them.

Normal..
You used this word again, but you don't clarify what you mean by it. Mean? Mode? Median? Commonly occurring?

There are a lot of things the humanity does that doesn't fit with the Bible and its teachings. Why are these things not illegal?

Why should atheist marriage be legal, but gay marriage illegal?

Birth control and contraception is unnatural and the Bible makes it clear that God wishes procreation. Why not work towards outlawing these?

Absolutely. I don't agree with birth control either. But this gay business is a whole other issue. It belongs in a catagory of it's own.

It's like being in the wrong country...no matter what you do, you're disqualified...because you're wrong to begin with!

Just like being a sinner, actually. You are deseased at the roots, and that needs to be taken care of first and foremost!

Even though an unsaved man and woman's marriage may be sanctioned by God as a ligitimate covenant between opposite sexes, it is still not glorifying to God in that they do not serve Him.

 

[exxxys]

Homosexuality can be found many places in nature. This makes just as natural as heterosexuality, albeit much more rare.

Homosexuality is in no way worse than rape. Rape is a horrible, horrible, thing, which hurts not only the victim but the victim's family and friends. Homosexuality cannot even be compared, as it is personal and, really, no one's business.

 

[KCKID]

Absolutely. I don't agree with birth control either. But this gay business is a whole other issue.

I can't put into words how I feel about you and your posts, 3rdday, because I'd probably be banned from the forum.

You say above, however, that, while birth control is bad, this 'gay business' is a whole other issue. You are so steeped in ignorance of the facts that you really DO need to stop yelling and stop making this so glaringly obvious. I'm getting embarrassed for you. The act of sex was intended for procreating and not for pleasure ...right? God never mentions the pleasurable side of sex anywhere in the Bible. I don't think it's even equated to 'love', scripturally speaking. By all means, correct me if I'm wrong. Paul even suggests that, rather than burn with passion, one should marry. 'Burning with passion' sounds remarkably like 'lust' to me. In any event, Paul says nothing whatever about 'love' in connection with the act of 'sex'!

So, sex is, for all intents and purposes, meant for 'making babies' or 'lusting', it would seem. THEREFORE, any sexual act that would result in 'wasted seed' is probably an abomination to God, do you agree? You MUST agree because you said you don't agree with birth control. However, you didn't give a reason as to WHY you don't agree. I would therefore assume that the answer IS that birth control is an abomination to God. Yes, homosexuality in its most extreme form (sex) would be seen as an abomination, given the real intent for sex. But FAR more prevalent today is the abomination of birth control. Yet you brush that aside and instead target your 'favorite' abomination ...allegedly that of homosexuality.

This is just my opinion ...understand? ...but I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about in regard to the issue of homosexuality. You have no idea! Further, I believe that you only have a smidgin' of biblical savvy ...probably just enough to drive you to religious fanatacism. My advice: drop the fanatacism and the yelling and the frothing at the mouth and really STUDY the scriptures in their entirety. As the Bible says, the truth will make you free, 3rdday. The question is, what IS truth?

 

[BigBadWlf]

How does one prove that the sin of Sodom wasn't gang rape rather than homosexuality?
or was it bad hospitality in the form of gang rape?
how exactly was Lot the pillar of righteousness if he was willing to offer up his daughters for gang rape?

Well one could look at the bible and see that God himself said “'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.” Ezekiel 16:49-50

Inhospitality and being overweight.

 

[Andreusz]

Gang rape is violent. The same as any hurtful activity. Homosexuality is a disgusting perversion of nature as instituted by God. It is a brash, unashamed repudiation of God's laws of decency and reproductiviy.

In what way is marriage betwen two elderly heterosexuals not 'a brash unashamed repudiation of God's laws of decency and reproductivity'?

 

[3rddaymessenger]

I can't put into words how I feel about you and your posts, 3rdday, because I'd probably be banned from the forum.

You say above, however, that, while birth control is bad, this 'gay business' is a whole other issue. You are so steeped in ignorance of the facts that you really DO need to stop yelling and stop making this so glaringly obvious. I'm getting embarrassed for you. The act of sex was intended for procreating and not for pleasure ...right? God never mentions the pleasurable side of sex anywhere in the Bible. I don't think it's even equated to 'love', scripturally speaking. By all means, correct me if I'm wrong. Paul even suggests that, rather than burn with passion, one should marry. 'Burning with passion' sounds remarkably like 'lust' to me. In any event, Paul says nothing whatever about 'love' in connection with the act of 'sex'!


So, sex is, for all intents and purposes, meant for 'making babies' or 'lusting', it would seem. THEREFORE, any sexual act that would result in 'wasted seed' is probably an abomination to God, do you agree? You MUST agree because you said you don't agree with birth control. However, you didn't give a reason as to WHY you don't agree. I would therefore assume that the answer IS that birth control is an abomination to God. Yes, homosexuality in its most extreme form (sex) would be seen as an abomination, given the real intent for sex. But FAR more prevalent today is the abomination of birth control. Yet you brush that aside and instead target your 'favorite' abomination ...allegedly that of homosexuality.

This is just my opinion ...understand? ...but I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about in regard to the issue of homosexuality. You have no idea! Further, I believe that you only have a smidgin' of biblical savvy ...probably just enough to drive you to religious fanatacism. My advice: drop the fanatacism and the yelling and the frothing at the mouth and really STUDY the scriptures in their entirety. As the Bible says, the truth will make you free, 3rdday. The question is, what IS truth?

Dear Lord, bring back Holy Ghost anointed, firey preaching, where the preacher is so on-fire and shouting that if you sit too close you'll get spit on!

May the FIRE of Your Word go forth, Lord, driving out all demons and perverted spirits, cleansing and making whole the truly repentant and sincerely remorseful.

Restore all things, Lord, to their original condition of purity and Truth. So that all creation and the inhabitants of Your Kingdom bring Glory to Your Holy name! Use your servants to this end, Lord.

"Fire and brimstone" preaching is what we need, Lord, in the midst of this confusion, mixture and uncleanness!

Lord Jesus, YOU are Truth. And we honor You and the WORD which shall judge all!

Grant repentance, Lord, to the humble and destitute. Those who hunger for righteousness.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Nothing to see here, folks. Time to move along.

 

[jamielindas]

Poe? Troll?

 

[kiwimac]

The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about inhospitality, it is about lack of empathy, it is, finally, about treating others as THINGS rather than as people. It has NOTHING, NOT ONE THING, to do with homosexuality.

 

[3rddaymessenger]

The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about inhospitality, it is about lack of empathy, it is, finally, about treating others as THINGS rather than as people. It has NOTHING, NOT ONE THING, to do with homosexuality.

Actually, it has ALL to do with the utter depravity of the homosexual spirit of perversion showing absolute sacriledge and disdain for the divine and holy things of God...showing absolutely NO sensitivity to the precious and clean. No care or concern, but only depraved self-gratification.

The TRUE account of Sodom has ALL to do with God's judgement upon such a spurning and disrespect for all things pure and divine.

The same perspective and rebuke and sentence of judgement is recorded in Romans chapter 1.

 

[KCKID]

Dear Lord, bring back Holy Ghost anointed, firey preaching, where the preacher is so on-fire and shouting that if you sit too close you'll get spit on!

May the FIRE of Your Word go forth, Lord, driving out all demons and perverted spirits, cleansing and making whole the truly repentant and sincerely remorseful.

Restore all things, Lord, to their original condition of purity and Truth. So that all creation and the inhabitants of Your Kingdom bring Glory to Your Holy name! Use your servants to this end, Lord.

"Fire and brimstone" preaching is what we need, Lord, in the midst of this confusion, mixture and uncleanness!

Lord Jesus, YOU are Truth. And we honor You and the WORD which shall judge all!

Grant repentance, Lord, to the humble and destitute. Those who hunger for righteousness.

Preach the fear, brother! Have 'em cringing in the pews! But, don't forget that you are as 'filthy rags' and totally unqualified to preach such fire to anyone. The scary thing is that you don't realize this. You sound very much as if you're in league with the Fred Phelps ilk. And they, sadly, are sick puppies.

There is no love in your posts, 3rdday. To me, you're a joke.

 

[3rddaymessenger]

The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about inhospitality, it is about lack of empathy, it is, finally, about treating others as THINGS rather than as people. It has NOTHING, NOT ONE THING, to do with homosexuality.

Actually, it has ALL to do with the utter depravity of the homosexual spirit of perversion showing absolute sacriledge and disdain for the divine and holy things of God...showing absolutely NO sensitivity to the precious and clean. No care or concern, but only depraved self-gratification.

The TRUE account of Sodom has ALL to do with God's judgement upon such a spurning and disrespect for all things pure and divine.

The same perspective and rebuke and sentence of judgement is recorded in Romans chapter 1.