As a Christian, how many of you believe in evolution?

[VirOptimus]

That's probably what they told Roger Boisjoly.

This is silly, just own up to your mistake and stop with the random quips.

Every human is an ape, thats just a fact.

 

[xianghua]

Who's to say it couldn't have evolved?

since we know that a motor is the product of design- thus it cant evolve naturally.

 

[VirOptimus]

since we know that a motor is the product of design- thus it cant evolve naturally.

But thats a lie, we know there are motors that is the result of evolution.

You have been shown this multiple times.

Why do you lie?

 

[Tom 1]

since we know that a motor is the product of design- thus it cant evolve naturally.

We know that the motors we build are designed. It doesn't follow that any possible motor must be designed.

 

[xianghua]

No, significant differences can be found between humans and cats. Cats do not have hands.

so? and human can speak but apes cant. human walk naturally on two and apes dont etc.

 

[xianghua]

The main difference between humans and monkeys is that humans generally scratch their backsides when no one is looking, whereas monkeys aren't bothered either way. Since young children also tend to be indifferent to who is watching, it occurs to me they may find distinguishing one form the other difficult.

im not sure that i got the joke.

 

[xianghua]

The fact that there are differences between humans and apes (or monkeys, if you prefer) doesn't mean that we don't share common ancestors with apes and monkeys. A child can see the difference between a sheep and a goat, or between a Great Dane and a poodle, or between a Nigerian and a Japanese, but sheep and goats, Great Danes and poodles, and Nigerians and Japanese respectively, are descended from common ancestors.

sure. but they are still the same creature basically. but human does have unique complex traits that apes dont have like language and the ability to walk naturally on two for instance.

 

[46AND2]

sure. but they are still the same creature basically. but human does have unique complex traits that apes dont have like language and the ability to walk naturally on two for instance.

So what? Of course there are differences. There are differences between you and your parents. It's kinda the idea behind evolution.

 

[xianghua]

I believe in evolution 100%

but we never seen a creature changing into other creature. so we cant realy sure in evolution by 100%. its only a belief. as for the evidence for design see my signature link.

 

[VirOptimus]

but we never seen a creature changing into other creature. so we cant realy sure in evolution by 100%. its only a belief. as for the evidence for design see my signature link.

Evolution is a fact, the ToE explains how it works.

Just as gravity is a fact and the theory of gravity explains how it works.

 

[xianghua]

Evolution is a fact

are you refer to common descent of banana and human for instance? because its clearly not a fact.

 

[xianghua]

we know there are motors that is the result of evolution.

so you believe. but cant prove it.

 

[xianghua]

We know that the motors we build are designed. It doesn't follow that any possible motor must be designed.

so take a look at this(from wiki):

say that the image is real for the sake of the argument. do you think that we cant conclude design since some flying objects (birds for instance) suppose to evolve naturally?

 

[VirOptimus]

so you believe. but cant prove it.

No, belief is wholly you.

I accept physical reality, i.e. science, you dont.

 

[VirOptimus]

are you refer to common descent of banana and human for instance? because its clearly not a fact.

You really should learn biology 101. Your quips is pointless and only show your ignorance on the subject.

 

[Speedwell]

so take a look at this(from wiki):

say that the image is real for the sake of the argument. do you think that we cant conclude design since some flying objects (birds for instance) suppose to evolve naturally?

We can't conclude design because we can't observe it closely enough to see if there is any evidence of design.

 

[xianghua]

You really should learn biology 101. Your quips is pointless and only show your ignorance on the subject.

you said that evolution is a fact. so prove me that banana and human are related without using a belief. if you cant do that just say so.

 

[VirOptimus]

you said that evolution is a fact. so prove me that banana and human are related without using a belief. if you cant do that just say so.

Im not responsible for your education.

 

[Tom 1]

so take a look at this(from wiki):

say that the image is real for the sake of the argument. do you think that we cant conclude design since some flying objects (birds for instance) suppose to evolve naturally?

There isn’t any way to demonstrate or prove design. You can find things that look like they were designed, but that doesn’t mean anything. Some things look like they were badly designed lol. I honestly can’t think of any reason to believe that ID is anything more than an extremely simplistic notion pushed too far.

 

[xianghua]

Im not responsible for your education.

so you cant prove it.