Army Recruiting

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Complaining about starting high school in the early 1990s REALLY makes Moriah feel OLD.
It had already had all its 3 kids by then, and had already been through 3 years of college after which it got expelled (long story not for mixed company here) got married and started spawning. Its youngest now bes 19 and oldest bes 22.

 

[I'ddie4him2]

Hey bro, I sent you a PM, but once again I wanted to thank you for your service. It's not your fault you were misled from the Army to the Marine Corps....LOL....I'm kidding

Seriously, thank you for your service.

Also, I agree 100% with your reply post.

I got your pm and for the 1st time in my life, I was speechless.

I was proud to serve and do the time I completed.
I considered it an honor to serve my country.

Misled ??
I wanted a challenge. I need to shed some weight and get active again.




posted @ 8:37 pm 3/26/2008

 

[ICor1311]

you can do it. you'll be back to your active self again in no time. The discipline is already there

You weren't the only one speechless. I had to step away from the computer a few times before I could send a reply

 

[QuiltAngel]

Okay, when you two normally chatty guys find your voices again, are you going to let us in on the secret? Or did I miss something with all the time travel that was going on here this week.

 

[Gwenyfur]

as promised...
I'm a little late...r/l had some curves this weekend

 

[Gwenyfur]

 

[ICor1311]

Wow, Gweny....those look awesome!

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Cool! Thanks.
Heard a rumor though that there bes certain little rules about when it would be appropriate to use the Hooah one, maybe some Army folks could speak to that. Like you bes not supposed to say it until after a certain point in your training or something? Or bes it mistaken? Sorry to sound dumb but this bes a totally new world for Moriah, it hasn't a clue.

 

[ICor1311]

HOOAH means everything but NO. I'll let you figure out what everything else is

As far as when you can use it, well, there really isn't a starting point.

 

[rppearso]

A good debate is great. I'm all for it. However, once again, little things such as respect and tact must be enforced and regarded during conversations. Otherwise, the points you're trying to get across are useless. Having said that, there's obviously a reason why you were banned from this forum. How you got back onto the forum, I'll never know. Maybe someone should look into that.

I do appreciate your service. However, I don't understand what mental abuse you're referring to. I've received no mental abuse. My soldiers throughout my 12, almost 13 year tenure have received no mental abuse. I can only speculate as to what mental abuse you are referring to. If you received mental abuse in BT, there's a reason why the DI's were on you like white on rice on a paper place with a glass of milk in a snow storm. Were you the weak link in your BT unit?

AIT is a breeze. If you received any type of mental abuse there, you were doing something you shouldn't have been doing.

Once you got to your unit, I have no idea. I do know it couldn't have been much. You worked 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks a year. You did your drills and went home until the following month when you had drills again. Maybe you deployed with your unit. Other than that possibility, the only active duty time you have is BT and AIT. I'm sorry to hear that weekend military life was too rough for you. Some are cut out to serve, others just complain.

Also, for those that have served and are still serving in the Reserves or National Guard, I commend you for your service. Everyone has a reason to enlist into a particular branch whether it be full time or part time. One or the other, you've served or are still serving and I say Thank You.

I was not trying to be brash, Im glad her relationship with her daughter is still good, my experence is I have not talked to my father in almost 4 years (he was an army ranger) so relationships can become strained, its not lack of tack its just reality. You are correct, I was the weak link in the BCT unit and I asked for an ELS and they refused to give it to me so I just muddled my way through but I would not call any of it any where close to fun ( I call jet sking at the lake fun not BCT). When I went back to the national gaurd I was between BCT and OCS and opted out of OCS and after a really long drawn out process I got my RE-3 honorable discharge, I got chewed out on my NG drills for addressing officers in a casual manner like hey how is it going etc, so after that I just sat at attention talked to no one unless asked a direct question, often times I would just say I did not know and patronize the individual asking but I already knew I wanted out before that because I figured out OCS was a second worse BCT and I could not handle it. Thats just the way it goes sometimes, its not a lack of tact its just my experence and I feel it is important for people to see the flip side of the coin that are thinking of joining, some people on this forum tend to shine butterflys and rainbows towards people, BCT was a very tramatic experence and I look back on it as a crisis that I survived and I have no fond memories of it, BCT is not a joke so far as people die in BCT and are recycled for years into the PTRP thats not funny to me and I think people ought to know about it. I hope I came across in a tactfull manner.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

HOOAH means everything but NO. I'll let you figure out what everything else is

Ah you mean like "Sir, Yes SIR!" and "Right away SIR!"

As far as when you can use it, well, there really isn't a starting point.

OK cool. Came across something on the web about that, don't remember what it said anyway. Might have just been one dude's opinion or something, who knows.

 

[ICor1311]

I was not trying to be brash, Im glad her relationship with her daughter is still good, my experence is I have not talked to my father in almost 4 years (he was an army ranger) so relationships can become strained, its not lack of tack its just reality.

I'm sorry that your relationship with your father wasn't the greatest. However, it was wrong to assume the same for someone else because the relationship with your father is strained.

It is a lack of tack. Reality is everyday. How you try to get your point across determines who will find offense to your remarks.

 

[Gwenyfur]

Cor, Moriah: Glad you like 'em...I barely got 'em done my weekend went ... well...cleaning heads would have been better Had one bright fun spot and that was a visit from a fellow CF member for a few hours...

Will try to work on more later this week when I'm off again

pearso - again, sorry you couldn't cut the mustard, but there are many service members who did have wonderful experiences...it's never easy, it's physically and mentally demanding, and discipline must be maintained...that's the life we chose, and for me...it was the best years of my life...the 2nd most rewarding thing I've done...(the 1st being my daughters) and while I usually had bruises, bumps, contusions, I never asked my recruits or the men and women under me to do something I couldn't or wouldn't do. The training and discipline I received in the Corps has helped me through life and many a struggle ... the ability to make a decision, to think a problem through...that lasts a lifetime.

I too am sorry your relationship with your dad is strained...perhaps in time things will work out..G-d works in strange ways as times...

But again, to judge the service on your horrible time and what you considered to be traumatic events in your life, doens't mean it's that way for everyone who goes through...for most of us...it's what we do and will always be a part of who we are....

and we're proud of it!

 

[rppearso]

Cor, Moriah: Glad you like 'em...I barely got 'em done my weekend went ... well...cleaning heads would have been better Had one bright fun spot and that was a visit from a fellow CF member for a few hours...

Will try to work on more later this week when I'm off again

pearso - again, sorry you couldn't cut the mustard, but there are many service members who did have wonderful experiences...it's never easy, it's physically and mentally demanding, and discipline must be maintained...that's the life we chose, and for me...it was the best years of my life...the 2nd most rewarding thing I've done...(the 1st being my daughters) and while I usually had bruises, bumps, contusions, I never asked my recruits or the men and women under me to do something I couldn't or wouldn't do. The training and discipline I received in the Corps has helped me through life and many a struggle ... the ability to make a decision, to think a problem through...that lasts a lifetime.

I too am sorry your relationship with your dad is strained...perhaps in time things will work out..G-d works in strange ways as times...

But again, to judge the service on your horrible time and what you considered to be traumatic events in your life, doens't mean it's that way for everyone who goes through...for most of us...it's what we do and will always be a part of who we are....

and we're proud of it!

I dont disagree I just want people to be aware of both sides of the coin, because people like me are here and im not the only one in the entire history of the military that had this experence. My dad was a hardliner and so is his new wife and im an extreme intellectual so when I quit mining jobs and turned down fishing jobs and quit the military it did not sit well with them, thats life some people cant see past that, I have a chemical engineering degree from the colorado school of mines and work in oil and gas you would think that would get there respect but they cant see past the fact that im not hard like they are but thats life. Im glad your relationship is good but you have to understand its not all butterflys and rainbows for alot of people

 

[QuiltAngel]

rppearson
It looks like you look to others for validation and acceptance. Look to Christ who loves you unconditional, not humans who are conditional in their love. Some people are never going to give you their approval and what you do should not be to gain their approval, you are only going to be continually disappointed by them.

Sorry you have a poor relationship with your father. I am guessing this has gone on longer than you say. I say this because I hear you saying that you had a hard time with authority while in the Army. Not respecting the chain of command is not widely accepted there.

Not everyone is cut out to be in the military and you seem to have been one of those and you got out when you could. The fact that you recognized that and did leave, is good. Just that there are many others who find the military very beneficial for them and, yes, even enjoy many aspects of it. Soldiers get injured, recycled and even have fatal incidences, but they are not the majority.

My son spoke with so many recruiters from different branches and they all told him there are difficult times. One can also talk to others and find that out. It is okay to warn others that the military is not all rosey, but some of your posts come across as 'why would you even want to do that?'

Thank you for the time you did put in in the Army, even though you did not like it, you did something that not many people even consider doing.

Go do your job and do it the best of your ability and know that God loves whether you are doing well or not. His love will never leave you. Quit living for your father's approval, you probably will never get it. I lived my whole life feeling like my parents were not proud of us and that I lived my life in a way they did not approve of, only to find out after my mother passed away (Dad was already gone) that she was proud of us. All the nurses and aids kept telling us she was proud of us. You know how much that hurts to find out from others. Your Dad may be proud, just does not know how to show it.

 

[QuiltAngel]

ICor1311
Happy and blessed late birthday to you! Hope you had a wonderful birthday.

 

[I'ddie4him2]

Cor, Moriah: Glad you like 'em...I barely got 'em done my weekend went ... well...cleaning heads would have been better Had one bright fun spot and that was a visit from a fellow CF member for a few hours...

Will try to work on more later this week when I'm off again

pearso - again, sorry you couldn't cut the mustard, but there are many service members who did have wonderful experiences...it's never easy, it's physically and mentally demanding, and discipline must be maintained...that's the life we chose, and for me...it was the best years of my life...the 2nd most rewarding thing I've done...(the 1st being my daughters) and while I usually had bruises, bumps, contusions, I never asked my recruits or the men and women under me to do something I couldn't or wouldn't do. The training and discipline I received in the Corps has helped me through life and many a struggle ... the ability to make a decision, to think a problem through...that lasts a lifetime.

I too am sorry your relationship with your dad is strained...perhaps in time things will work out..G-d works in strange ways as times...

But again, to judge the service on your horrible time and what you considered to be traumatic events in your life, doens't mean it's that way for everyone who goes through...for most of us...it's what we do and will always be a part of who we are....

and we're proud of it!

Well Stated Gweny !!!!!

I used muscles I didn't even know I had and hurt in more places than I could count from the PT and other drilling.
I used much the same principles in later life as you said, I never asked anyone under me to do anything I wouldn't or couldn't do.

The pluckiness and determination to stick to something til it's done is an admirable trait. One that many folks have, also something many folks don't have.
I think that it goes back to how we are raised and go thru childhood,
Working for something vs. Having it handed to us.

Not everything in life is gonna be a picnic nor will it be easy, Thats where our OWN determination and staying goal minded helps us succeed.

 

[Gwenyfur]

pluckiness? I haven't been called "plucky" since high school

love ya brother S/F

 

[ICor1311]

Ah you mean like "Sir, Yes SIR!" and "Right away SIR!"




OK cool. Came across something on the web about that, don't remember what it said anyway. Might have just been one dude's opinion or something, who knows.

It was probably just something someone wrote really about nothing. Who knows?

But, yea, there's no starting time when you can or can't say it. Most DI's in BT teach us that word. LOL

 

[rppearso]

I wonder if I am the only one on here that has had this extreme of a military experence, I sometimes feel like I am the only one posting the flip side of the coin. Maybe I look so good on paper that they failed to weed me out in recruiting while the other 90% of people like me never make it past the recruiter.