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'Maybe there should be an all out ban on Twitter by everyone now to protest their block! Why not?!

Twitter? What's Twitter?

I'm so out of it, I've already banned them!

But seriously, I'm detecting a concerted effort to keep this out of the public eye.
 
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LOL!! You're just detecting it! It's been very obvious from the start!! I've never Twittered--do not intend on ever doing so. I tried Facebook for a little while--I got all sorts of phony e-mails purporting to be from people I knew, but the address was wrong and they had never contacted---so I never opened them, I was also getting more and more computer problems so I just deleted everything and left it. I also do not text or Pokémon---and I'm on the verge of getting off here as I've got 2 warnings for goading and at 3 you're banned for a month---What can I say---I have a horrible sarcastic streak--
 
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Twitter? What's Twitter?But seriously, I'm detecting a concerted effort to keep this out of the public eye.

I've felt for a long time that the media has a right-wing bias. People usually gauff or look at me bizzarely when I say that, because Spiro Agnew and Pat Buchanan launched a strategy many decades ago to paint the media as left wing in order to "work the ref" which has been perpetuated both intentionally and unintentionally by many others in the conservative movement through the years to the point where even some moderates and left-wingers have the phrase "left-wing media" drilled so deep into their heads that to hear the opposite sounds like the person saying it is from Mars. It's really been a brilliant strategy on the part of Agnew and Buchanan, because it has both the effect of forcing the media to second guess themselves and bend over backwards to be "fair" to conservatives, which in fact creates a bit of the conservative bias I am speaking of in and of itself (Though it is far from the main reason I believe the media has a right-wing bias), but also encourages people to turn to even more and more right-wing sources to get what they perceive as a evenhanded news. Remember when FOX News, owned by a well-known conservative and run up until a few months ago by a former Nixon political operative, used "fair and balanced" as its slogan? They were playing off this illusion that they'd successfully created in some people's minds that the mainstream media was left-wing, and thus a clearly right-wing partisian outlet like FOX News would seem "fair and balanced" to some viewers who would call network evening news left-wing and use that as a starting point to figure out where everything else would be on a scale. So if they were trained to think a little to the right was very liberal, a far-right outlet could seem umbiased (Every conservative I know admits now that FOX at least "leans to the right", but they didn't always admit it in the network's first decade or so).

Okay, so why do I think the mainstream media, even aside from clearly partisan outlets like FOX, tend to tilt to the right? All the large mainstream are owned by large corporations. Corporations want minimal regulations and legal liabiliy for themselves, and low taxes for corporations and the rich people who own them. Some corporations that own media have at times directly owned companies that mass produced war planes and tanks.

Also, just think. What mainstream media outlet adovocates for the return of old 20th century style welfare? Why is it when they discuss even popular programs like Social Security and Medicare, that the conversation is always framed as "How much should we cut?" rather than "How much should we increase?" Or "Should we cut, increae, or keep benefits the same?"?

No major network was against the Iraq War when it was happening. Many had embedded reporters who considered themselves part of battalions. Voices against the war weren't heard. The cable news channels embedded small American flags in the corners of their screens and showed tanks rolling out in montages with patriotic music in the background.

Global climate change is still treated as a subject with two sides to it even though the science is crystal clear.

This is a conservative media in this country. There are exceptions but those outlets are exceptions.

Think about why they covered a few right-wingers "taking over" a closed federal park building in the middle of nowhere a while back, but hush up larger protests that involve a minority group, global climate change, and opposing corporate power.

This sadly doesn't surprise me.

Although, I am interested in hearing alternate theories about why this isn't being covered.

I don't really want to debate whether the media is right or left wing, but maybe this isn't an example of a right bias and is happening for some other reason. What reason would it be?

* Caveat: When I say that I think the media is in general right wing, I mean on economics and foreign policy. Its possible social issues are a different story. I am not sure large corporations are anti-abortion or anti-gay or anything. ;) I only really see the bias in reporting about things that relate to the perceived interests of large corporations.
 
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LOL!! You're just detecting it! It's been very obvious from the start!! I've never Twittered--do not intend on ever doing so. I tried Facebook for a little while--I got all sorts of phony e-mails purporting to be from people I knew, but the address was wrong and they had never contacted---so I never opened them, I was also getting more and more computer problems so I just deleted everything and left it. I also do not text or Pokémon---and I'm on the verge of getting off here as I've got 2 warnings for goading and at 3 you're banned for a month---What can I say---I have a horrible sarcastic streak--

Same.

I was stalked on MYSPACE... and gave up on Facebook when colleges still had to request to be on the Facebook network.

Never had any social media accounts, except this one - which may follow your suit soon for similar reasons.
 
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If I may speak for a few moments, Tad. I want to reiterate and remind people that this is the life and reality of Native Americans in America today, as it has always been. Native Americans have endured oppression, racism, discrimination, marginalization, cultural genocide, and attempted genocide for over 500 years. We have always had to defend our lands from the encroachment of foreign invaders, crossing our lands like a horde of locusts, destroying and devouring everything in its path. We have struggled and fought against the greedy blood thirsty United States government since the very beginning when our lands were continuously stolen from our ancestors through broken treaties and forced removals. But many of our ancestors endured and survived the attempted annihilation, the forced removals, the death marches, the cultural genocide of "Kill the Indian, Save the Man", and the Indian Residential Schools. Despite all the centuries of trying to wipe us from the face of Mother Earth just so they could take our lands for themselves and then attempt to destroy everything about us and our culture, we are still here. We are a reminder of their crimes. We are a reminder of the lies they told when they said this nation was founded on freedom, liberty and justice for all. They have their freedom because they stripped my ancestors of their freedom and forcibly removed them onto barren wastelands of the Prisoner of War camps, also known as the Reservation. So, today, as I do every day, I celebrate the resilience, strength, and courage of Native Americans across our ancestral homeland on Indigenous People's Day. I celebrate our survival. I honor my ancestors and the sacrifices they made.
 
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If I may speak for a few moments, Tad. I want to reiterate and remind people that this is the life and reality of Native Americans in America today, as it has always been. Native Americans have endured oppression, racism, discrimination, marginalization, cultural genocide, and attempted genocide for over 500 years. We have always had to defend our lands from the encroachment of foreign invaders, crossing our lands like a horde of locusts, destroying and devouring everything in its path. We have struggled and fought against the greedy blood thirsty United States government since the very beginning when our lands were continuously stolen from our ancestors through broken treaties and forced removals. But many of our ancestors endured and survived the attempted annihilation, the forced removals, the death marches, the cultural genocide of "Kill the Indian, Save the Man", and the Indian Residential Schools. Despite all the centuries of trying to wipe us from the face of Mother Earth just so they could take our lands for themselves and then attempt to destroy everything about us and our culture, we are still here. We are a reminder of their crimes. We are a reminder of the lies they told when they said this nation was founded on freedom, liberty and justice for all. They have their freedom because they stripped my ancestors of their freedom and forcibly removed them onto barren wastelands of the Prisoner of War camps, also known as the Reservation. So, today, as I do every day, I celebrate the resilience, strength, and courage of Native Americans across our ancestral homeland on Indigenous People's Day. I celebrate our survival. I honor my ancestors and their sacrifices today.

Thanks for sharing.

Happy Indigenous People's Day
 
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Latest Update. Just Released: Divergent Actress Shailene Woodley has been arrested on 2 misdemeanors charges of trespassing and engaging in a riot. Sources say she left the area when the police told her and the other water protectors to leave but law enforcement officers met her at her RV and placed her under arrest.

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Water protectors were confronted by police in riot gear today as they continue their fight to protect their water and their land against the black snake DAPL. 27 water protectors were arrested today. 25 for criminal trespassing and two for felonies. Remember that these are unarmed Native Americans and their allies gathered to peacefully protect the water and land from a poisonous oil pipeline being constructed on sovereign Sioux land against the will of the Standing Rock Sioux Nation. They are not a group of armed white men besieging a bird sanctuary because they are disgruntled with the US government over land that did not belong to either one of them in the first place.
 
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Once again, I personally thank Lawrence O'Donnell for courageously speaking the truth about the real experience and history of Native Americans in this country. He does not sugarcoat the real history of America regarding the Indigenous people of this land to pacify American exceptionalism. A'ho. I have much respect for him and for MSNBC.

 
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If I may share these words from an ancestor, Chief Dan George. I think it is relevant to our discussion.

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