What is your wife's physical problem. If you don't want to say, it is fine.
If I missed the original post, I am sorry.
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Aren't we all physically ill?
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What is your wife's physical problem. If you don't want to say, it is fine.
If I missed the original post, I am sorry.
I have heard so much talk about faith by people here without any understanding of how to have faith. (Which I will not do as it is for others to discover for themselves.)
I believe all disease has a beginning somewhere in life. Doctors do not understand it's importance in healing.
You may not care for my advice, but, I will give it to help you give some thought to it and if it makes no sense to you, fine, if it does it should be of some help.
Emotions play a big part of illness. stress is a killer so is resentment.
Many who are ill resent their illness instead of looking at themselves for the solution. Resentment is a sin, it is hate.
Your wife needs to ask herself where her emotions began and the resentment that followed. Who does she resent, who has treated her cruelly in the past, starting from her first memory.
Your wife, if she is interested can pm me and I will suggest a Judeo Christian meditation to calm her nerves and relieve stress.
I have no idea where the pm is to receive a message as I have never done this. Perhaps you can help me here. I would like to see your wife heal from her stress, which is a big part of her problem.
Louise
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Thank you for your response, but my wife is the least stressed person that I know and like me, she is very forgiving of people. She forgives even when the other person hasn't shown any remorse on their part. She is also not a nervous person.
MS is an auto-immune disease, just for reference. Her immune system is attacking her neurons in her brain and spinal cord.
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So, what? Do you think it's God's fault? Is He refusing to honor His Word?
Or... did the devil get a lot more powerful and he's blocking God's healing power?
Mankind hates to admit it, but man is the one that was born in to sin and as such we have alot to learn... and sadly, not too many people are willing to admit they desperately need God's wisdom, which is the first step in finding out from God whassup.
If we refuse to acknowledge it is us... then really the only other option is the devil is blocking God's power which would mean Jesus did not defeat him at the Cross... or, it's God Who is failing to honor His Word!
Which one do you think it is?
Have you guys consistently been doing what Jesus said in Mark 11:23,24 ?
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Thank you for not quibbling
In my humble observation. There is a fairly huge difference between Jairus "waiting" for Jesus to enter his home and the people today are saying that God's making them wait days, weeks and months for some unknown reason or to teach them some type of lesson they never seem to learn well enough.
I could quickly agree with your position if the
"God is telling me to wait because....." Was supported any place in scripture. However, it just simply is not there.
Which is more destructive in the life of a hurting person:
You are sick because you don't have enough faith
Or
You are sick because God doesn't want you well until you .....
Both are wrong and horrible lies.
To me in scripture there is example of God telling us to wait, its ok if you see it differently I am content in my relationship with God and that sometimes He does seem to allow times of waiting. to me waiting is still waiting if its half an hour or a day or more
I agree both are wrong and horrible lies
Like lismore and others I dont tend to try and explain to people why they are sick cos who really knows except God. I tend to go with the I dont know but I care kind of thing cos thats real. It insulting to dig around in someones life to try and find fault that may not even be real fault to try and explain what only God knows especially if a person doesnt ask you for your thoughts.
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So, what? Do you think it's God's fault? Is He refusing to honor His Word?
Or... did the devil get a lot more powerful and he's blocking God's healing power?
Mankind hates to admit it, but man is the one that was born in to sin and as such we have alot to learn... and sadly, not too many people are willing to admit they desperately need God's wisdom, which is the first step in finding out from God whassup.
If we refuse to acknowledge it is us... then really the only other option is the devil is blocking God's power which would mean Jesus did not defeat him at the Cross... or, it's God Who is failing to honor His Word!
Which one do you think it is?
Have you guys consistently been doing what Jesus said in Mark 11:23,24 ?
I will put this, my prior response to you here as well.
"Well, what I have been hearing and was confirmed to me just last week, is "my grace is sufficient for you."
There is a greater reason why she hasn't been healed and there is hope and comfort in knowing that reason will be revealed.
*as I was writing out the reply above I received the greatest peace I have ever felt in my life descend upon me.
edit: I will take the above as an indication that we are on the right track and that He has a greater purpose for her not to have been healed as of yet. That there will be a greater glory to Him because she hasn't been healed yet."
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Well then, have praise-n-worship all day every day, thanking God she has ALREADY been healed as God has said in His Word.
One thing is for sure no matter how this is sliced... God is not the problem and He is not the one withholding His healing power which is in the Holy Spirit present with you right now...
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Which one do you think it is?
The little rant you gave in the above post, what tangible difference would it make to someone who has prayed for healing but is not healed? Bombast alone won't fill your creel.
I know a dear brother who takes cooked meals round to people who have fallen sick and cannot cook for themselves. He blesses many people.
God Bless You
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I hope she is not suppressing her stress and just puts on a good face.
The immune system is attacking in that case.
God works in mysterious ways and heals after he cleanses.
I have known many who have healed because they hunger and thirst for truth.
Thank you for your response.
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So, what? Do you think it's God's fault? Is He refusing to honor His Word?
Or... did the devil get a lot more powerful and he's blocking God's healing power?
Mankind hates to admit it, but man is the one that was born in to sin and as such we have alot to learn... and sadly, not too many people are willing to admit they desperately need God's wisdom, which is the first step in finding out from God whassup.
If we refuse to acknowledge it is us... then really the only other option is the devil is blocking God's power which would mean Jesus did not defeat him at the Cross... or, it's God Who is failing to honor His Word!
Which one do you think it is?
Have you guys consistently been doing what Jesus said in Mark 11:23,24 ?
read exodus 4:11, and tell me what you think?
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Can I add another possible reason we do not receive healing.
I recently had an opportunity to leave my current employer due to uncertain future for the company, I would have walked out with a voluntary seperation pakage after 24 years service.
I prayed about it and felt nothing but fear and anxiousness , I decided to stay and felt peace.
One of the things that worried me was my back which is not the best.
I have had prayer for it numerous times and no healing.
If I left my job I would have to get another job and felt passing the medical for a new job would be hard due to my back pain.
I felt after that maybe God did not heal me because I would have made the wrong decision and moved from where He wanted me.
Of coarse I can not prove this is the case.
I recently had an opportunity to leave my current employer due to uncertain future for the company, I would have walked out with a voluntary seperation pakage after 24 years service.
I prayed about it and felt nothing but fear and anxiousness , I decided to stay and felt peace.
One of the things that worried me was my back which is not the best.
I have had prayer for it numerous times and no healing.
If I left my job I would have to get another job and felt passing the medical for a new job would be hard due to my back pain.
I felt after that maybe God did not heal me because I would have made the wrong decision and moved from where He wanted me.
Of coarse I can not prove this is the case.
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I think... we are in the New Covenant now and as such we need to study how things are after the resurrection of Jesus Christ, don't you? There is so much more revelation available in the NT
Maybe you need to read
James 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man
Tempted in this verse = testings, temptations, and trials
If we go by some of the stuff in the OT... it makes God out to be the devil.... which is what most of mainstream religion teaches in error.
Jesus had this to say about the destroyer...
John 10:10
The thief comes not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy
When you study this out... you'll find that God took responsibility for what satan did in Adam, but God did not actually arrange for darkness to be upon mankind. This is why Jesus was crucified before the foundation of the world because He knew man would bow the need to satan who was created perfect (as lucifer), so God did not bring evil into existence.
Ezekiel 28:15
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
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It sure still looks like man has more faith in his own conclusions as to why he is not healed than He has in the stripes of Jesus that did
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Very true. What I was suggesting though is that perhaps there are other possibilities. Just because something happens does not mean that it was the will of God. There can be reasons why the will of God is prevented in a situation.
The use of an extreme example proves this. If I pray that my neighbor will stop drinking and using porn and he continues to do so , I don't conclude that it is not the will of God for him to stop. Neither do I conclude that it is the will of God for him to wait to stop until it is the right timing.
I conclude that the man is using his free will to choose against the will of God in the situation.
The point is the logic that we can determine the will of God by what happens or does not happen in the situation is flawed. We have to know the Bible and know what God is saying in order to be confident that we know the will of God in the situation. Otherwise , we should should admit we don;t know and are making our best guess. That was my original point that I was trying to make.
Your point is a valid and important one also. False bravado is not helpful either. Our faith has to be grounded in what is true.
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