Then prove it and show how I am being evasive? The scriptures that have been posted here are there for all to see. They have even been now linked in the first post of the OP here click me. If you wish to discuss any of the posts and scirptures that disagree with you than I am more than happy to do so.You are being so evasive its amazing!
I have posted in detail what it is I believe in the OP and in all the linked questions in the OP here linked click me.
For the MARK OF THE BEAST AND THE SEAL OF GOD in these linked post below..
Q9. WHAT IS THE SIGN, THE SEAL AND THE MARK?
Q10. WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND WHEN DO PEOPLE RECEIVE IT?
Q11. THE SEAL OF GOD HOW DO WE GET IT?
I do not mind if you wish to go through each section a step at a time. This is why I suggested earlier that you go through each post section by section and scripture by scripture and show what it is you disagree with and why.
Now my friend how can I be afriad to put it on the table when you can clearly see I have already put everything on the table for all to see in the linked posts provided?
All your showing is that you do not wish to address or discuss the posts and scriptures provided as you have not done so. Do you wish to proceed? YES/NO? As for me I am happy to do so and have been waiting for you as I do not even know what it is you disagree with that has been posted here and why.
You are being so evasive its amazing!
Ain't that the truth.
The beautiful thing about that is, his actions speak loudly, the more evasive the more loudly the truth rings out.
Of course, as I've said several times, I'll proceed as soon as you tell me what exactly we will be discussing, but you have refused to do that so we have nothing to talk about...literally.
I gave you every opportunity, so when I see the full explanation of what exactly we will be discussing posted right here for all to see, I'll answer, otherwise, I would be foolish to let you waste anymore of my time.
Then prove it and show how I am being evasive? The scriptures that have been posted here are there for all to see. They have even been now linked in the first post of the OP here click me. If you wish to discuss any of the posts and scirptures that disagree with you than I am more than happy to do so.
Your answers! You are not answering
Ain't that the truth.
The beautiful thing about that is, his actions speak loudly, the more evasive the more loudly the truth rings out.
Really? Which ones and what is not being answered?
Exactly! Lol
How can you say my answers are not answering if you cannot tell me what it is I did not answer?
Not really brother, I have already answered what has been asked. If you believe that is not true please show what you believe has not been answered already with God's WORD and we can discuss it if you like? If you cannot than what your saying has no truth in it.Go back and check your replies. Same old, same old.
Friend the rapture does not happen at the Second Coming of Christ, it happens before.Happens in every single one of these threads with every single person who disagrees. You can post page after page of scripture to no avail. You can post page after page of your own explanations and reasonings and interpretations only to be ignored with the comment, "Where's the scripture?" If you go through each scripture in detail as is asked, then you will later receive the claim that it never happened. If you accuse of deflection, there is feigned innocence of, "I don't know what you're talking about. I posted scripture, etc." Direct questions go completely unanswered or are evaded by completely unrelated copy-and-pastes of the exact thing you were *not* looking for.
It just goes on. It makes me wonder how effective this "technique" really is when it comes to making converts because for one, direct questions aren't answered and many deflections tend to make a person appear dishonest, and for two, most people in general have the attention span of a gnat and won't read anything that takes longer than a few seconds to scan through.
It's just all very curious.
With that said, I tend to lean more post-tribulation myself as in there is only one rapture that happens at Christ's second coming, and not a pre-tribulation rapture that happens seven years beforehand. However, all of these different views of how/when the rapture happens, the exact nature of the mark, etc. are mostly academic to me since it really doesn't ultimately matter how it happens. What matters is being in Christ regardless.
For example, I may doubt a pre-tribulation rapture, but if it *does* happen and I am in Christ, I would be raptured despite my doubts or lack of belief in that particular thing. What matters is my relationship with *Christ*. How and when the rapture occurs isn't the salvational element.
Friend the rapture does not happen at the Second Coming of Christ, it happens before.
They are two distinct events .
At the rapture (the removal of the Church) the dead in Christ since Pentacost and present believers meet the Lord in the air/clouds.
At the Second Coming of Christ , He literally sets foot on the Mount of Olives before Jerusalem.
Two 100% different and distinct awesome events that obviously have not happened yet.
In one event He takes us (the Church ) away, in the other event we come back with Him .
Like I said , two strikingly , different, distinct events.
The Church will not be here during the tribulation whatsoever.
I'm quite baffled as to why there is so much confusion and division over this topic.
It is a wonderful blessing for those who are part of the Church.
The Groom (Jesus Christ) removes the Bride (The Church) before the Groom unleashes divine judgment against a rejecting, rebellious, unbelieving world where humanity has reached its peak of decadence and depravity.
Absolutely pre-trib rapture friend.
The Bride will not be subjected to the Grooms wrath.
Rejoice friend! Rejoice!!!
All glory be to God now and forever!
⚘
I saw the point you were making and I agree with you that all of us need to be ready.Well I recall the word "rapture" means being "caught up" or being taken up or something to that effect, so if it happens as you say before a seven year period of tribulation, or it happens at the time of Jesus' second coming when people are caught up to meet him in the cloud, it's still a rapture all the same. The argument is really just when this rapture actually takes place.
It's not a salvational argument though...that was my point. Regardless of when we are "caught up" to meet Christ, the main point is that we need to be *in* Christ and will therefore be ready whenever and however it all happens!
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?