Are we the only inhabited planet in God's Universe?

[visionary]

There is enough scripture in the bible to indicate that we are not the only created beings in God's Universe.

If by universe you mean the 'Heavenly realm or dimension, ie the spiritual realm, then yes.
If by universe you mean out physical one with planets etc, then no.

Lastly, the bible says that when Jesus 1000 year reign is over, some time after that the heavens and earth will be rolled up and replaced with new heavens and earth. This is saying that this universe exists as long as Gods plan for man is in operation, once the fullness of salvation has come to mankind, then this universe is replaced with the eternal heavenly universe and creation.

If there are other beings in this universe, why is God ending the universe for them just because He has finished redeeming us.
We are a quarantined creation until we have been saved and can join the rest of creation. We have this universe all to ourselves until then.

Quarantined indicated others not infected. There is no indication the Universe is all to ourselves until then. There is some indication that this quarantine is in place to stop us from spreading ourselves throughout His Universe. There is good reason for that. It is because He want to contain and eradicate sin.

 

[Sorn]

Invisible - angels
Visible - Flesh Beings

"Visible - Flesh Beings" - Yes, but just on earth

 

[Sorn]

Quarantined indicated others not infected. There is no indication the Universe is all to ourselves until then. There is some indication that this quarantine is in place to stop us from spreading ourselves throughout His Universe. There is good reason for that. It is because He want to contain and eradicate sin.

Other than being a really big place, there is no other indication anywhere that life exists elsewhere in our universe, especially intelligent life.

 

[Sorn]

Quarantined indicated others not infected. There is no indication the Universe is all to ourselves until then. There is some indication that this quarantine is in place to stop us from spreading ourselves throughout His Universe. There is good reason for that. It is because He want to contain and eradicate sin.

Sin isn't an infection, its a choice, albeit made under temptation.

 

[Sorn]

The marring of one, hurts perfect beings in their heart for us and what we are going through.

So other beings know about us but we don't know about them, why not?
What damage would it do for them to contact us?
Why would God prevent that? Its not like we can infect them, because sin is not an infection!
Or would they succumb to temptation!! Would one of then find you irresistible in a bikini and sin??
Its not like they could save us, Jesus would still be needed for that.

Why will God bring the new Jerusalem to dwell with us in the new Earth and not with some of the other aliens that have never sinned, surely they would be more deserving, we are just another species after all?

I presented my arguments and theology as to how it all fits in a couple of long posts, how about you do the same.
Present your arguments, make your case and not just misquote scriptures.

 

[visionary]

Other than being a really big place, there is no other indication anywhere that life exists elsewhere in our universe, especially intelligent life.

When Adam sinned, ALL of creation was affected—the entire universe. Romans 8:18-22

 

[visionary]

So other beings know about us but we don't know about them, why not?
What damage would it do for them to contact us?
Why would God prevent that? Its not like we can infect them, because sin is not an infection!
Or would they succumb to temptation!! Would one of then find you irresistible in a bikini and sin??
Its not like they could save us, Jesus would still be needed for that.

Why will God bring the new Jerusalem to dwell with us in the new Earth and not with some of the other aliens that have never sinned, surely they would be more deserving, we are just another species after all?

I presented my arguments and theology as to how it all fits in a couple of long posts, how about you do the same.
Present your arguments, make your case and not just misquote scriptures.

Now you are getting into the space craft visitations. As to the New Jerusalem on Earth, scripture indicates that He has chosen us. Not that we deserve it, but that He does as our King of the Universe, and choosing Earth is His Way of declaring victory.

 

[visionary]

Sin isn't an infection, its a choice, albeit made under temptation.

Sin is an infection. It eats at the soul, it destroys the very nature of its victim, and it spreads to others with its infection. It gets us at our weakness, just like a virus.

 

[Sorn]

When Adam sinned, ALL of creation was affected—the entire universe. Romans 8:18-22

So God allows other perfect beings to exist in an inperfect universe that no doubt impacts them??
That makes no sense whatsoever.
By what mechanism does sin affect the entire universe to the extent that other beings suffer in some way??

Your theology needs to explain this mechanism and its rationale otherwise it has no validity whatsoever.

 

[Sorn]

Sin is an infection. It eats at the soul, it destroys the very nature of its victim, and it spreads to others with its infection. It gets us at our weakness, just like a virus.

Sorry, but you are making things up.

Oh alright, you got me, I am am alien, so.. do you have any good pictures of yourself in a bikini you can share!

 

[visionary]

So God allows other perfect beings to exist in an inperfect universe that no doubt impacts them??
That makes no sense whatsoever.
By what mechanism does sin affect the entire universe to the extent that other beings suffer in some way??

Your theology needs to explain this mechanism and its rationale otherwise it has no validity whatsoever.

It would if you thought about the "if" Adam and Eve had not sinned, like other perfect beings, Satan tempted the Universe of God with his doctrines and theology. It is sad that we are the only ones of the Universe who failed the test. But since sin didn't exist until Satan, it had to be identified, understood, and the full ramifications from start to finish in both its existence and its extermination, God was allowing His Universe to decide if they were for or against it.

 

[visionary]

Sorry, but you are making things up.

Oh alright, you got me, I am am alien, so.. do you have any good pictures of yourself in a bikini you can share!

You are looking for temptation. For shame.

 

[Sorn]

It would if you thought about the "if" Adam and Eve had not sinned, like other perfect beings, Satan tempted the Universe of God with his doctrines and theology. It is sad that we are the only ones of the Universe who failed the test. But since sin didn't exist until Satan, it had to be identified, understood, and the full ramifications from start to finish in both its existence and its extermination, God was allowing His Universe to decide if they were for or against it.

Yes, but all this can happen without aliens, the angelic beings are the audience, remember, many of them sinned and they need to understand the effects of sin as well, lest other angels sin.

Again, your statement does not give any support as to why any other intelligent aliens in our universe are necessary or in any way contribute to an argument for them existing.

 

[Dkh587]

Yes, angles works directly from Heaven before the throne of God, are messengers of God, don't have a flesh body, and don't have their own planet which they would have authority over.

I don’t see how humans would be the only group of created intelligences that sinned(based on your responses).

You acknowledge that humans and angels are not the same group, yet both you say both are created intelligences, and the scripture records both groups sinning.

 

[visionary]

Interesting how ancient Christian history has images of Alien ships.

The Bible has many references to other-worldly beings and flying saucers.

Ancient art showing Christ on the cross with two alien craft in the background (Svetishoveli Cathedral, Mtskheta, Georgia, 17th century)

The two images above were taken from an ancient fresco. the fresco depicts one alien craft chasing another while the pilot of the first craft looks back at the other. In the fresco, each alien craft appears on opposite sides of Christ on the cross.

 

[visionary]

More ancient Christian paintings..

 

[visionary]

Are you looking behind the head of this ancient Christian picture and notice the aircraft?

 

[Sorn]

Are you looking behind the head of this ancient Christian picture and notice the aircraft?

So if the paintings were done showing UFO's, why isn't there any literature that also describes them from the period.?

Also, why would God need to hint and allude to aliens in scripture verse when they were supposedly plainly flying around according to your interpretation of the paintings?

Your arguments make poking holes in them very easy earth girl!

 

[Dave-W]

With the concept of PaRDeS, you can read all sorts of things into scripture and interpret it in all sorts of ways. I think its just a mistaken approach that adds little to no value of real worth.

You are betraying your bias toward indoeuropean type languages that do not have multiple levels of meaning. All Semitic languages have different levels of meaning. The Arabic in the Koran has 7 layers.

 

[Dave-W]

2) Further, if the assumption is that there are aliens but they have never sinned, then they would not experience death as God would not let them die,

Did dogs sin? Did cats? birds? fish? NO.
Do they die? YES.

This premise is already proved false.