Are we headed for global cooling ?

[greatcloudlives]

Record snowfall in China coldest winter in almost fifty years in England. All across Canada every province record cold. Thousands of cold temperature records in the United States , sunspots diminished in cycle 23 and 24 sunspot cycle 25 expected to be even lower. The magnetic field of the sun is diminished greatly. The pause in the warming up global temperature of fifteen years.

1998 2016 and 2019 were all due to very high El Nino events. Overall the global warming has only been .25 degrees Celsius. When you look at the satillite graphs you can see that in 2008 and 2012 the temperature increase dropped to zero or normal. The temperature shift in the Pacific ocean is going from El Nino events to La Nina's. We can expect to see 40 or 50 years of cooling coming up.

 

[durangodawood]

Record snowfall in China coldest winter in almost fifty years in England. All across Canada every province record cold. Thousands of cold temperature records in the United States , sunspots diminished in cycle 23 and 24 sunspot cycle 25 expected to be even lower. The magnetic field of the sun is diminished greatly. The pause in the warming up global temperature of fifteen years.

1998 2016 and 2019 were all due to very high El Nino events. Overall the global warming has only been .25 degrees Celsius. When you look at the satillite graphs you can see that in 2008 and 2012 the temperature increase dropped to zero or normal. The temperature shift in the Pacific ocean is going from El Nino events to La Nina's. We can expect to see 40 or 50 years of cooling coming up.

Are you particularly qualified to contrast this data against all the countervailing data in a meaningful way?

Or is this just cherry picked to reinforce a pre existing bias?

 

[sfs]

No.

 

[Lord Give Me A Sign]

Technically yes as the earth has a history of warming and cooling

Historically speaking, everytime the earth heats up natural disasters increase...such as hurricanes, tsunami's and volcano eruptions

If one of those super volcanoes erupt like the one at Yellowstone it could limit the suns light on earth causing colder temperatures and perhaps the next ice age

Warming and cooling may be a natural cycle but humans are speeding the warming part up with pollution

 

[Hans Blaster]

No.

Hey! I was going to post that!

 

[Hans Blaster]

Or is this just cherry picked to reinforce a pre existing bias?

This.

 

[greatcloudlives]

www.drroyspencer.com How do you explain the disapperence of all the warming in the year 2008 and again in 2012 , according to the satellite graphs.

 

[Sparagmos]

Record snowfall in China coldest winter in almost fifty years in England. All across Canada every province record cold. Thousands of cold temperature records in the United States , sunspots diminished in cycle 23 and 24 sunspot cycle 25 expected to be even lower. The magnetic field of the sun is diminished greatly. The pause in the warming up global temperature of fifteen years.

1998 2016 and 2019 were all due to very high El Nino events. Overall the global warming has only been .25 degrees Celsius. When you look at the satillite graphs you can see that in 2008 and 2012 the temperature increase dropped to zero or normal. The temperature shift in the Pacific ocean is going from El Nino events to La Nina's. We can expect to see 40 or 50 years of cooling coming up.

Since your posting anecdotal info, how about this.

A Historic Heat Wave Roasts Siberia

https://phys.org/news/2020-06-arctic-siberian-alarms-scientists.html

 

[Occams Barber]

Technically yes as the earth has a history of warming and cooling

Historically speaking, everytime the earth heats up natural disasters increase...such as hurricanes, tsunami's and volcano eruptions

If one of those super volcanoes erupt like the one at Yellowstone it could limit the suns light on earth causing colder temperatures and perhaps the next ice age

Warming and cooling may be a natural cycle but humans are speeding the warming part up with pollution

Global warming tends to increase the intensity of hurricanes but not necessarily the frequency.

Tsunamis are caused by earthquakes. Volcanic eruptions are caused by pressure build up in weak spots under the earth's crust. Neither of these is caused by global warming.

You're right about the potential cooling effects of a major volcanic eruption though the volcanic cloud is unlikely to be around long enough to result in an ice age.

OB

 

[Brightmoon]

Now retired atmosphere scientist James Hansen explained global warming pretty well with his tricolored dice. Color 2 faces red to represent warmer than normal years. color 2 faces blue for colder than normal and leave 2 faces alone for average temperatures . When you roll the die sometimes you get average , sometimes you’ll get colder and sometimes you’ll get warmer. Now that’s under normal circumstances.
with global warming, color one of the average faces red . Now when you roll the die, you’ll get a greater percentage of the red .
This somewhat represents what’s happening with global warming . The number of years with above average temperatures have increased. That doesn’t mean some that years can’t be cooler

 

[greatcloudlives]

From 1940 to 1980 we have had cooling ,forty years. From 1980 to 2020 there was global warming, forty years. Interestingly those years match up with the El Nino and La Nina record. Also it's this year that we are going into the La Nina events again , so we can expect to see forty years of cooling once again.

 

[Gene2memE]

Record snowfall in China coldest winter in almost fifty years in England. All across Canada every province record cold. Thousands of cold temperature records in the United States

Repeat after me please:

Local weather is not climate,

Local weather is not climate,

Local weather is not climate,

Local weather is not climate.

sunspots diminished in cycle 23 and 24 sunspot cycle 25 expected to be even lower.

Yet despite reduced solar irradiance, the average global temperature anomaly continues to grow.

From the NOAA:

"The globally averaged temperature departure from average for May 2020 tied with 2016 as the highest for the month of May in the 141-year NOAA global temperature dataset record, which dates back to 1880."

"The global land-only surface temperature for May 2020 was also the highest on record at 2.50°F (1.39°C) above the 20th century average of 52.0°F (11.1°C). This was 0.07°F (0.04°C) above the previous record set in 2012. The 10 highest global land-only surface temperature departures have occurred since 2010."

"The year-to-date global surface temperature was also the second highest in the 141-year record at 1.98°F (1.10°C) above the 20th-century average of 55.5°F (13.1°C). This value is only 0.11°F (0.06°C) less than the record set in 2016."

The magnetic field of the sun is diminished greatly.

Actually, right now is right where is when we first started measuring it in the 1970s:

http://wso.stanford.edu/meanfld/mf.long.gif

The pause in the warming up global temperature of fifteen years.

What pause?

There was a slowing between peak years (with a rate reduction of about 15%) in 1998 and 2016, but there's not been a "pause". All there has been is dishonest people messing around with start and end points of a graph to manipulate the data to their desired outcome.

Global globally averaged temperature departure continued to grow over the period, and have only accelerated in the last decade.

1998, 2016 and 2019 were all due to very high El Nino events.

Great, what about all those other very hot years that were not El Nino years?

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/sotc/global/2020/may/ytd-horserace-202005.png

Take out those three peak El Nino years from the temperature record. What is the result to the overall temperature anomaly? How much does it decline?

Overall the global warming has only been .25 degrees Celsius.

Against what baseline?

When you look at the satillite graphs you can see that in 2008 and 2012 the temperature increase dropped to zero or normal.

So, another way of saying this is that the last time there were below average temperatures in the lower atmosphere temperature record was eight years ago?

https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_May_2020_v6.jpg

The temperature shift in the Pacific ocean is going from El Nino events to La Nina's. We can expect to see 40 or 50 years of cooling coming up.

I'd love to see a peer reviewed paper that comes to that conclusion.

 

[Gene2memE]

www.drroyspencer.com How do you explain the disapperence of all the warming in the year 2008 and again in 2012 , according to the satellite graphs.

You really don't understand what you're seeing on that graph, do you?

This is really classic Dunning-Kruger.

Read the conclusions of the scientist that made those graphs about what the temperature record is doing. (Hint: 2008 and 2012 weren't years where warming "disappeared", they were years with lower rates of warming compared to the 1981 to 2010 baseline).

 

[greatcloudlives]

www.drspencer.com look at the satellite graph here and you can see that the temperature drops in 2008 and 2012 to zero on the graph all the warming gone.

The highest the temperature has been is .8 degrees Celsius above normal on the satellite graph Dr Spencer posts. Not 1.0 degree C or 1.5 degrees Celsius. .8 degrees Celsius is not very much. And the higher years were all because of El Nino. El Nino events have a lasting effect of two or three years so those other years you mentioned were affected by the El Nino too.

Many signs are pointing to the temperature going down.

 

[greatcloudlives]

The baseline for the graph is zero has nothing to do with the year 2010.

 

[greatcloudlives]

The coming La Nina's mixed with the solor minimum cycle 23 ,24, and projected very low 25 combine to project global cooling for as much as forty years.

 

[Occams Barber]

www.drspencer.com look at the satellite graph here and you can see that the temperature drops in 2008 and 2012 to zero on the graph all the warming gone.

The highest the temperature has been is .8 degrees Celsius above normal on the satellite graph Dr Spencer posts. Not 1.0 degree C or 1.5 degrees Celsius. .8 degrees Celsius is not very much. And the higher years were all because of El Nino. El Nino events have a lasting effect of two or three years so those other years you mentioned were affected by the El Nino too.

Many signs are pointing to the temperature going down.

Dr Spencer? (from your link)

OB

 

[greatcloudlives]

What is that supposed to be some kind of joke. Dr Spencer is a very good scientist and he has a website for the satellite graph he posts. I don't know who that person is you posted about.

 

[greatcloudlives]

No it's not weather when it is the coming normal climate we are going to have, it's been going on for two years.

 

[greatcloudlives]

What 1981 to 2010 baseline , you don't know what you are talking about. The baseline on the graph is zero degrees Celsius. That's how cold the temperature was then. The highest the global temperature reached in the modern warming period was .8 degrees Celsius above normal that is not very much hardly any warming.