Are we headed for global cooling ?

[greatcloudlives]

www.epu.senate.gov.com peer reviewied paper showing the coming cooling.

 

[greatcloudlives]

The very fact that people here on this thread cannot even entertain or discuss the position of global cooling shows that they are rabid alarmists. The agw theroy needs to be challenged as all the other theroies are , that is standard science for the process.

 

[Hans Blaster]

www.epu.senate.gov.com peer reviewied paper showing the coming cooling.

*.senate.gov.com

I'm not trusting any site that seems to be impersonating something. senate.gov is a website, but it's not a science site -- it's the site of the United States Senate.

Looks even worse than the diet hustler "Dr. Spenser".

 

[Hans Blaster]

What is that supposed to be some kind of joke. Dr Spencer is a very good scientist and he has a website for the satellite graph he posts. I don't know who that person is you posted about.

That's where your link goes.

 

[greatcloudlives]

You have to scroll down one link and click on it. It says Dr Spencer temperature satellite data.

 

[Gene2memE]

What 1981 to 2010 baseline ,

This one:

UAH Global Temperature Update for May 2020: +0.54 deg. C « Roy Spencer, PhD

Where it says "Various regional LT departures from the 30-year (1981-2010) average for the last 17 months are:"

That's the baseline.

you don't know what you are talking about.

One of us doesn't. But then again, one of us had to understand and present professionally on this this a decade ago.

The baseline on the graph is zero degrees Celsius.

Yes, it is. Anything above or below that is the temperature anomaly.

That's how cold the temperature was then.

No. Just, no.

Here's an analogy:

You measure your weight for 30 days. Over that period, you average 200 pounds. Some days you're over, some days you're under but you average 200 over the 30 days.

That 200 pounds is your baseline. That's equivalent to zero degrees Celsius on the graph.

Then suppose we want to work out if you're gaining weight, losing weight or static. So the next day, we measure again. You weigh 201 pounds. Or 1 pound above baseline. That's your weight anomaly - i.e. how much you've changed from the previous 30 day average.

Over the next 10 days, you gain another five pounds. Now you weigh 206 pounds. Or 6 pounds above the baseline.

Then over the next 9 days you lose 4 pounds. You now weight 202 pounds. Or 2 pounds above baseline.

Then over the next 10 days, you gain another 8 pounds. Your weight is 210 pounds. Your weight anomaly is 8 pounds.

Its the same with measuring global temperature.
Dr Spencer's graphs don't measure raw global lower troposphere temperatures, they measure the deviation from the average of temperatures from 1981 to 2010.

The highest the global temperature reached in the modern warming period was .8 degrees Celsius above normal that is not very much hardly any warming.

That's not true.

It's not true for surface temperatures (where the record is 1.55 Celsius), it's not true for sea temperatures (where the record is 0.86 Celsius) and its not true for atmospheric temperatures (where the record is 0.86 Celsius).

Also, 0.8 degrees of warming compared to a 1980 to 2010 baseline is really, really fast. Like, 8 degrees per century fast. That sort of warming would be catastrophic.

 

[Speedwell]

Dr Spencer? (from your link)

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OB

No, this guy--a PhD, not an MD.

He's actually has a long career as a respected meteorologist, but in later years has fallen in with fundamentalist science deniers.

 

[sfs]

The very fact that people here on this thread cannot even entertain or discuss the position of global cooling shows that they are rabid alarmists.

No, it shows we've read your posts before.

 

[Gene2memE]

Hey, @greatcloudlives, in February you said this:

"The Sun has been at a high output for a long time and has baked the earth hence the reason for the world wide increase in temperature. We have not increased in temperature sence the year 2000 . The world wide temperature has been a steady two and a half degrees above normal for twenty years."​

These two claims (sun is at a high output, global temperature at 2.5 degrees [Fahrenheit or Celsius, by the way?], seem to fly in the face of you claims in this thread. Such as:

"sunspots diminished in cycle 23 and 24 sunspot cycle 25 expected to be even lower. The magnetic field of the sun is diminished greatly. The pause in the warming up global temperature of fifteen years."

"Overall the global warming has only been .25 degrees Celsius."

"The highest the global temperature reached in the modern warming period was .8 degrees Celsius above normal that is not very much hardly any warming."​

Here's a deal: If 2020 is in the top five years for global temperature anomaly, will you acknowledge that you don't know what you're talking about? If it's out side the top five, I'll stop trying to correct you.

 

[Gene2memE]

Double post

 

[Occams Barber]

What is that supposed to be some kind of joke. Dr Spencer is a very good scientist and he has a website for the satellite graph he posts. I don't know who that person is you posted about.

Go back to your post #14 and click on the link you provided.
OB

 

[greatcloudlives]

Keep this thread in mind because the 40 years of warming is over. We have entered the next era of cooling.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Keep this thread in mind because the 40 years of warming is over. We have entered the next era of cooling.

Have you been outside today?

Just asking since that's the game we seem to play.

 

[sjastro]

Keep this thread in mind because the 40 years of warming is over. We have entered the next era of cooling.

What an impeccable sense of timing in a parallel universe.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/...ating-new-research-finds-20200703-p558s8.html

 

[Occams Barber]

What an impeccable sense of timing in a parallel universe.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/...ating-new-research-finds-20200703-p558s8.html

In my parallel universe summers are up to 7 weeks longer than they were in the 50s and 60s.

ABC (Australia)
2 March 2020

Summers are now twice as long as winters in all Australian capital cities, report finds

Australian summers have become, on average, 31 days longer in Australia's capital cities, and in regional areas that number is even higher according to a new report.

Researchers at the Australia Institute crunched Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) data from 1999 to 2018 and compared it with Australian temperature records from 1950 to 1969.

The analysis found all Australian capital cities experienced longer summers and shorter winters, with summer 31 days longer and winter three weeks shorter than in the 50s and 60s.

Sydney now has an extra 28 days of summer and 15 fewer days of winter compared to the 50s and 60s

In regional areas the trend was even more pronounced — including the NSW regional centre of Port Macquarie, on the Mid-North Coast – where summers have increased by 48 days.

OB

ABC article: Summers are now twice as long as winters in all Australian capital cities, report finds - ABC News
Report Summary: Australian Summer Now Over One Month Longer
Original Report PDF: https://www.tai.org.au/sites/defaul...t/australian-summer-now-over-one-month-longer

 

[George95]

MOD HAT ON

This thread has been moved from Physical & Life Sciences to Non-Mainstream and Controversial Science.

MOD HAT OFF​

 

[greatcloudlives]

arxiv- export- lb

 

[greatcloudlives]

This scienceandpublipolicy.org

 

[klutedavid]

Record snowfall in China coldest winter in almost fifty years in England. All across Canada every province record cold. Thousands of cold temperature records in the United States , sunspots diminished in cycle 23 and 24 sunspot cycle 25 expected to be even lower. The magnetic field of the sun is diminished greatly. The pause in the warming up global temperature of fifteen years.

1998 2016 and 2019 were all due to very high El Nino events. Overall the global warming has only been .25 degrees Celsius. When you look at the satillite graphs you can see that in 2008 and 2012 the temperature increase dropped to zero or normal. The temperature shift in the Pacific ocean is going from El Nino events to La Nina's. We can expect to see 40 or 50 years of cooling coming up.

Hey, your going the wrong way.

The global land and ocean surface temperature departure from average for June 2019 was the highest for the month of June in the 140-year NOAA global temperature dataset record, which dates back to 1880. The year-to-date temperature for 2019 was the second warmest January–June on record. (Noaa.climate summary)

 

[greatcloudlives]

That was a very high El Nino year 2019.