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Are we all the result of (prior) conditioning or programming...?

Neogaia777

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Among many, "many" "other things" (experiences) (kind of) "like" this/these, way to many times, (more than I can count) all showed me that God knew way, way ahead of time, the exact timing of these (sorts of, kinds of) things in my life... And prearranged and preordered it all, and knew it all, way ahead of time...

God Bless!
 
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Does God already pre-know all of that...? Before it happens to and with us, and can so predict it all way ahead of time...?

There are some things that happen or that we are exposed to or are predisposed to before birth also, that need to be "figured into that" (that equation, that program) as well... Our experiences in the womb, our genetic or hereditary make up, that sort of thing... But does, or can, or does God "know it all", "all of that" way beforehand, and way ahead of time, and how that will affect and/or make up "us" and how "all that" will affect and influence our choices and decision making processes, that sort of thing...? or not...?

God Bless!
 
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Yeah, I've heard that nonsense too.
 
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Did God created u as a robot?
The question is valid..Several scholars postulate that we are living in a virtual reality...like the Matrix....I cannot blame one for asking the question, though I consider the idea total nonsense.
 
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Yeah, I've heard that nonsense too.

The question is valid..Several scholars postulate that we are living in a virtual reality...like the Matrix....I cannot blame one for asking the question, though I consider the idea total nonsense.

So, God is not "all-knowing" then...?

God Bless!
 
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So, God is not "all-knowing" then...?

God Bless!
What does a silly theory have to do with God? Of course God is all knowing..Man is the one who know nothing Man listens to his 'educated idiot box' located between his ears, and thinks he is soooo smart...So smart he does not need to listen to God....
 
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Did God created u as a robot?

A question I would think that has been asked since close to the beginning of time?

Robots no but, God did know who were going to be the chosen ones.

It seems to me from what I have read and studied in the Bible some were destined to follow God and Christ and the Holy Spirit and the others were destined to follow the devil.

The only ones that will be with Him will be the ones that the Father has given to Him.

Jesus stated that, he came for his sheep and that He did not come for the other sheep.

M-Bob
 
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In my daily experience I observe Pavlov's theory to be true.

Your post includes way to much.
 
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That doesn't mean God interferes with our choices. God knows what we will do with our free will.
 
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God knows what we will do with our free will.

Doesn't that mean we really do not have free will, and do not actually make any "choices" then, not really...?

And how much or how many of our "choices" are based on prior conditioning, or environmental factors, or conditions, or "whatever"...

Are we really making "actual choices" in those instances...?

What would be a "true choice" apart from all of that...? (if there is any or such a thing that is)...?

God Bless!
 
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I know that rebellious man likes to think the he is in control of his own life and his own destiny (believe me when I say, oh how well I do know and understand that completely) (And that also, is fully known by God, and can be fully predicted by, and "worked around by" God, as well)... But, I would just like you all to consider that, that, just may, or may or might not be the case...?

What if everything we have, and everything we are, could all be all totally predicted by God from the very beginning...? And is all already fully and completely known by God...?

And that He is the one "in control" (of our choices, free will, destiny, "whatever") and not us...?

What does, or what would that mean for us...?

Again, he did not "cause us" to be (the way we are, choices we make/made, ect) but just knew all about it, and created it all to be that way, from the very beginning... And therefore, "knows it all" and can therefore 100% fully predict it all... And it all, from a very long, long long time ago...

God Bless!
 
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Again,
he did not "cause us" to be (the way we are, choices we make/made, ect)

but just knew all about it, and created it all to be that way, from the very beginning...

That is called a contradiction.

God either caused it all to happen or He didn't.
 
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That is called a contradiction.

God either caused it all to happen or He didn't.

It is not a contradiction... Creating a thing, and/but also knowing everything about it, (what it would do, what it would be, or be used for, ect) ARE NOT the same (thing)...

He "causes" or caused creation, but/and only after that, just knew everything and all about it, is all...

God Bless!
 
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Jesus stated that, he came for his sheep and that He did not come for the other sheep.



Mat 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
 
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I'm sorry, you need to take more care in the way you express what it is you believe, and would like to understand, because it sounds as though your saying something different that what you either believe or think your saying.
 
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I'm sorry, you need to take more care in the way you express what it is you believe, and would like to understand, because it sounds as though your saying something different that what you either believe or think your saying.
Who are you talking to...?

God Bless!
 
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I'm sorry, you need to take more care in the way you express what it is you believe, and would like to understand, because it sounds as though your saying something different that what you either believe or think your saying.

You I thought I clicked the reply thingy, sorry

Oh, OK...?

Well, to me then, OK...

Well, I prefer to try to, and sometimes will even argue for, both sides of an issue, before, or until, I feel like I have or can come to a definite conclusion on the matter and/or issue...? Sorry if that can be confusing sometimes, but that is just kind of the way I am and work...

Like the whole free will, and predestination/choice, God's omniscience/sovereignty thing(s)/issue(s)...

I don't like to, (or try not to), draw any 100% "for sure conclusions", till I feel like i have fully explored both sides of an issue...

Sorry if that's confusing...

God Bless!
 
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