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Are Video Games Christian?
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Video games are not selfish, nor are they bad, in moderation, much like many other things in life. Jesus himself was said to have gone to parties. The days form of entertainment.
They're a great way to relax and unwind, I haven't been able to play any for a while just because I don't have the time. But I love them personally.
While it is good to help others, sometimes it's just not an offer at the time. I help a good deal of people, and sometimes there's just no one to help nearby. So I have down time, so why not have a little entertainment? There's nothing bad about being entertained.
So I say if you have spare time, and you want to, go ahead. It's not going to harm anyone, and you're not shirking any duties.
They're a great way to relax and unwind, I haven't been able to play any for a while just because I don't have the time. But I love them personally.
While it is good to help others, sometimes it's just not an offer at the time. I help a good deal of people, and sometimes there's just no one to help nearby. So I have down time, so why not have a little entertainment? There's nothing bad about being entertained.
So I say if you have spare time, and you want to, go ahead. It's not going to harm anyone, and you're not shirking any duties.
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SUNSTONE
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People say "well I don't play that much, just a little here and there".
So they play a little here and there, then they watch a little bit of tv, post a little bit on the internet, and maybe they even help people a little bit.
People have said on this thread that Jesus took a nap and even went to some partys.
But Jesus helped people A LOT!
And He didn't use the excuse that if people weren't there in front of Him, that He couldn't help them. No, Jesus went out and traveled to areas where people needed help.
WWJD does not mean playing games, watching tv, posting on the net and doing a little bit of helping fellow mankind, largely ignoring people's needs choosing to entertain themselves rather than live like Jesus.
So they play a little here and there, then they watch a little bit of tv, post a little bit on the internet, and maybe they even help people a little bit.
People have said on this thread that Jesus took a nap and even went to some partys.
But Jesus helped people A LOT!
And He didn't use the excuse that if people weren't there in front of Him, that He couldn't help them. No, Jesus went out and traveled to areas where people needed help.
WWJD does not mean playing games, watching tv, posting on the net and doing a little bit of helping fellow mankind, largely ignoring people's needs choosing to entertain themselves rather than live like Jesus.
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Yes I agree Jesus helped ALOT of people. As do some others, they help with what they can. Entertaining yourself does not mean you're just doing what entertains you. For example I can only speak for myself, but I do a lot of things for charity, and my church. Sometimes I have free time, and there's nothing left to accomplish that day. What should we do? Go door to door? Force people to let you help them? No, you can take a break. You do what you can with what you have. You can't do anymore than that. Some people don't have the means to travel and find other people that need help. They have jobs, and a family to support. And even with that, there are down times. I wasn't implying that I only help when they're in front of me, as a matter of fact I found this site because I was looking for a place to engage in discussion, and help. It's entertaining and helpful.
Sometimes I even sit down, and play a game or watch a movie, and think about where I need to go from where I'm at. What's wrong with that, if you're on the go all the time, you get burnt out, you get tired, and you make mistakes. What help is someone who can't think clearly, and is making all sorts of mistakes?
And I would like to ask, why if posting on the internet is so bad, and against what Jesus would do, are you posting on this forum? This seems slightly hypocritical to me.
Sometimes I even sit down, and play a game or watch a movie, and think about where I need to go from where I'm at. What's wrong with that, if you're on the go all the time, you get burnt out, you get tired, and you make mistakes. What help is someone who can't think clearly, and is making all sorts of mistakes?
And I would like to ask, why if posting on the internet is so bad, and against what Jesus would do, are you posting on this forum? This seems slightly hypocritical to me.
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What does video games coming up have to do with whether or not people are helping others? It's not a question of being selfish, it's a question of whether it's ok for Christians to play them. At the heart of the issue no, but as it was already mentioned, it only becomes a problem if you become addicted, and that is all you do.
Everyone needs a little "me" time in life. Everyone needs to unwind. And for the largest part, all of that stuff could be considered selfish. But if you live a life where you do what you can, and what you know how to do for others, then it's ok to take some time for yourself.
It's never doing the most, its doing what you can. Priorities aside, you can only do what you can do. Nothing more. If at the end of the day, you want to have some entertainment for yourself, then it's allowable. Not everyone is capable of doing as much as others. Their means do not allow it. Does that mean they're being selfish even if they're doing what they can?
Everyone needs a little "me" time in life. Everyone needs to unwind. And for the largest part, all of that stuff could be considered selfish. But if you live a life where you do what you can, and what you know how to do for others, then it's ok to take some time for yourself.
It's never doing the most, its doing what you can. Priorities aside, you can only do what you can do. Nothing more. If at the end of the day, you want to have some entertainment for yourself, then it's allowable. Not everyone is capable of doing as much as others. Their means do not allow it. Does that mean they're being selfish even if they're doing what they can?
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I don't know where you live, but here in america nearly every single christian is living a selfish life one way or another.
If they aren't playing games on an addictive level, it's playing a little games here and there, watching a little tv, going online, etc. (or another list of useless selfish things)
Christians waste all kinds of time and money on themselves.
And instead of working together, they just come up with all kinds of excuses.
In the book of acts people sold their houses to help others get their needs.
Here, today, people spend more on their pets, on their climate control air conditioning, on gluttony, the list goes on and on.
If they aren't playing games on an addictive level, it's playing a little games here and there, watching a little tv, going online, etc. (or another list of useless selfish things)
Christians waste all kinds of time and money on themselves.
And instead of working together, they just come up with all kinds of excuses.
In the book of acts people sold their houses to help others get their needs.
Here, today, people spend more on their pets, on their climate control air conditioning, on gluttony, the list goes on and on.
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I too live in America, and I'm not saying that a lot of people are selfish. Many people only care about themselves. It's a cold fact of life. And some don't really know how to help others but they try. I'm saying that's it's not wrong to take some time for yourself.
People in Acts did sell their houses, but what if you have a family? You can't take your baby and live on the streets. As a matter of fact in some parts of America you can be jailed for living on the streets. According to the bible, your family should be top priority. And that could probably be selfish too.
I'm not condoning being selfish. I'm saying there is only so much certain people can do. The bible speaks about living beyond your means. And if you support yourself and your family with the bare essentials, then some might not have much left. Then what do you do? Disregard your family? Let yourself fall apart so you can't be of any use?
People in Acts did sell their houses, but what if you have a family? You can't take your baby and live on the streets. As a matter of fact in some parts of America you can be jailed for living on the streets. According to the bible, your family should be top priority. And that could probably be selfish too.
I'm not condoning being selfish. I'm saying there is only so much certain people can do. The bible speaks about living beyond your means. And if you support yourself and your family with the bare essentials, then some might not have much left. Then what do you do? Disregard your family? Let yourself fall apart so you can't be of any use?
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SUNSTONE
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Not everyone should sell their homes, those that don't should open up their homes to those that have sold them and use their homes to help the homeless.
Those that sold their homes should work and help those that have opened their homes with finincial help and chores around the house.
Those that do not know how to help others are selfish, with the exception of kids under the age of 12.
If you do not ever play another videogame, or watch another minute of TV or ever go on the net ever again, you will not fall apart or grow tired with exhaustion.
These things have only been around a small, small, time in history.
But on the other hand if you don't have clean water, shelter, food, clothing, and medical, then you're in a world of hurt, fear, and death.
Those that sold their homes should work and help those that have opened their homes with finincial help and chores around the house.
Those that do not know how to help others are selfish, with the exception of kids under the age of 12.
If you do not ever play another videogame, or watch another minute of TV or ever go on the net ever again, you will not fall apart or grow tired with exhaustion.
These things have only been around a small, small, time in history.
But on the other hand if you don't have clean water, shelter, food, clothing, and medical, then you're in a world of hurt, fear, and death.
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Is this true for you also, do you follow this advice that you're giving?
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Sunstone, I think your message has expanded beyond the question, "Are video games Christian?" and perhaps would serve better in its own thread, one where we may all talk about how we believe or don't believe Christian values fall by the wayside in the modern world.
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If you practice what you preach then I don't really understand how I could be having this discussion with you on the internet, since you did speak against that as well.
The real reasoning should be, if you were playing a game, and someone told you they needed your help, would you stop and help, or continue to play and blow it off? That's a question for every individual person to make, not for one person to say that they are the authority on the subject.
In the bible, God did not want John to drink. But not everyone is called not to have a drink. Just as not everyone is called to help people in the same way. And to say that just because someone doesn't know how to help they are selfish, is very foolish to say. For example my neighbor growing up, wasn't the smartest, he didn't have money left over after paying bills, but he did what he could to help where he could. He loved horse shoes, and he'd often play for a couple hours in the afternoon after he got home from work. Does that make him selfish? Doing the only thing he knew how to do with what he had?
The real reasoning should be, if you were playing a game, and someone told you they needed your help, would you stop and help, or continue to play and blow it off? That's a question for every individual person to make, not for one person to say that they are the authority on the subject.
In the bible, God did not want John to drink. But not everyone is called not to have a drink. Just as not everyone is called to help people in the same way. And to say that just because someone doesn't know how to help they are selfish, is very foolish to say. For example my neighbor growing up, wasn't the smartest, he didn't have money left over after paying bills, but he did what he could to help where he could. He loved horse shoes, and he'd often play for a couple hours in the afternoon after he got home from work. Does that make him selfish? Doing the only thing he knew how to do with what he had?
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That's because you have not been paying attention to what I have been saying.
Playing videogames and posting on the net is not sin by itself.
The sin is not living the christian life, not obeying the 2nd great commandment.
Instead christians are playing videogames, posting on the net, gluttony, lazyness, and the list goes on.
Rather than living a life with meaning, they live a life full of empty selfishness.
Anyone who defends this lifestyle is guilty of it.
If someone doesn't know how to help, then they are not obeying the 2nd commandment, thus they are without a doubt...selfish.
All are commanded to obey the 2 great commandments. That's why they are "commandments" not "good advice to consider".
Your neighbor pays bills? What bills would that be? Cable TV? Internet? High electric bill because of all the tv sets, pc, air conditioning, food that is unhealthy?
What does he do with this house? Just use it on himself in a selfish fashion? Or does he help the poor and needy?
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Don't need to explain myself to God, or are you saying that He doesn't know why or how I posted ?
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