Are there any serious conflicts between Evolution and Physics?

[Buck72]

Rather than get all wound up the second law, why not take the lead of the actual Creation Scientists (those who know more about science than you or I, and are actively SEEKING to find arguments against evolution) who have acknowledged that the second law of thermodynamics is not a valid argument against evolution. They worked that angle for as long as they could (as you and your source are doing now) until they had to come to grips with reality in this case. It is possible that your source (or the source your source is quoting) is old enough to predate this acceptance by Creation Scientists.

The only grips with reality bro, are the evolutionists that crouch behind a parapet of evolutionary dogma, unsubstantiated by anything other than what they assume to be correct, WITHOUT considering that maybe they do not hold the sum of all truth after all.

If everytime I introduce contradictory, lucid, thought-provoking insight, and you say: "Nuh-uh!" We will have little grounds to continue a serious debate.

I value your reason Vance...please return the honor. Nothing I posted (I do not take credit for its authorship) is scientifically refutable by objective reason.

 

[Vance]

Hey, I was just trying to keep you from wasting your time running down a path that other, more knowledgeable YEC's have trodden and abandoned. If you want to refight that battle, go right ahead. I don't have the time or energy to debate matters that were settled between the major contendors long ago.

 

[notto]

If that Law states that things break down, wear out, cool off, burn up, fade, erode, dry up, and settle, then yes! That is a good argument.

The law doesn't state any of these things. Can you show us where it does?

 

[Buck72]

Entropy - things change from a state of higher order to a state of lesser order.

 

[Chi_Cygni]

That is not a proper definition of entropy. It's actually not a definition of anything at all.

The order/disorder analogy is probably the biggest reason for misunderstanding of thermodynamics.

The only two valid definitions (which can be shown to be equivalent) are:

dS=dQ/T & S=k lnW.

 

[wblastyn]

Buck, if what you say about evolution and the 2ndLoTD (how come you accept scientists are right about that but not evolution?) is true, then babies would not be born, people wouldn't grow, etc.

 

[notto]

Entropy - things change from a state of higher order to a state of lesser order.

So then snowflakes ARE violating this law, correct?

 

[Chi_Cygni]

Ok - for the thousandth time in my life I have uttered this.

Entropy is NOT, I repeat NOT, a measure of order/disorder.

This is an analogy often used in introductory textbooks and popular science articles. IT ISN'T TRUE, it is in fact a BAD ANALOGY.