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Osel said:Magical golden plates written in a magical language, magical top hats, magical translating stones, even magical underwear. Magical temple rites ripped off from the magical Masons. But hey, believing in Jesus makes you a Christian, right?
looking4wisdom said:What he said.
Doesn't it sound more like a fairy tale...O, Joseph Smith found tablets written in a mystical Egyptian Script...Only he could desipher it...To quote my beloved south park hymn about Mormonism; And the choir sings "Joesph Smith was called a prophet, Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb."
DaveS said:~ Remember, intolerance + intolerance does not = agreement, love or anything else remotely Jesus-like ~
Accept eachother's beliefs and get over it otherwise you will pull eachother off the mountain you are both climbing of which Christ is the summit simply because you disagree over which foothold is the better one. However, you both forget that all of us don't have the same size feet.
Dave
DjDan said:Where do you ignorant so-called 'christians' get this stuff???! If you knew anything about what you speak, i might actually give you some credit.
Have you ever read any part of the book of mormon? (and i mean... really read it? not just bits and pieces from an anti-mormon website)
looking4wisdom said:Try to prove your point about the golden tablets.
Joseph Smith: Yes, I found the word of god on these golden tablets.
Joe Sceptical: Really? Wow, Joseph, that sounds great. Can I see them?
Joseph Smith: Well, uh, you wouldn't be able to read them becuase they are written in an ancient form of egyptian.
Joe Sceptical: So, how did you read them?
Joseph Smith: Uhhhh, the magic, uhh, seeing stone! Yeah, the magic seeing stone.
Nice point...It is just hard for me to accept something that sounds like a fairy tale.
DjDan said:of course... and that's why what you say is wrong and even absurd! clearly you believe anything.. so long as it goes against the Mormon faith. You are just like the pharisees... hating the saviour in every aspect of his life - even the good!
looking4wisdom said:Try to prove your point about the golden tablets.
Joseph Smith: Yes, I found the word of god on these golden tablets.
Joe Sceptical: Really? Wow, Joseph, that sounds great. Can I see them?
Joseph Smith: Well, uh, you wouldn't be able to read them becuase they are written in an ancient form of egyptian.
Joe Sceptical: So, how did you read them?
Joseph Smith: Uhhhh, the magic, uhh, seeing stone! Yeah, the magic seeing stone.
mormon.org said:We are Christians in a very real sense and that is coming to be more and more widely recognized. Once upon a time people everywhere said we are not Christians. They have come to recognize that we are, and that we have a very vital and dynamic religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. We, of course, accept Jesus Christ as our Leader, our King, our Savior...the dominant figure in the history of the world, the only perfect Man who ever walked the earth, the living Son of the living God. He is our Savior and our Redeemer through whose atoning sacrifice has come the opportunity of eternal life. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints pray and worship in the name of Jesus Christ. He is the center of our faith and the head of our Church. The Book of Mormon is Another Testament of Jesus Christ and witnesses of His divinity, His life, and His Atonement.
evange said:mormons are christians the same way that muslims are christians. Some parts are similar, but overall, it's so corrupted and removed that it's completely illegitamate.
S Walch said:Prove her wrong.
Plus there's much better scholary sites against Mormonism.
"I wish to state categorically that this Church has nothing whatever to do with those practicing polygamy. They are not members of this Church. Most of them have never been members. They are in violation of the civil law. They know they are in violation of the law. They are subject to its penalties. The Church, of course, has no jurisdiction whatever in this matter.
If any of our members are found to be practicing plural marriage, they are excommunicated, the most serious penalty the Church can impose. Not only are those so involved in direct violation of the civil law, they are in violation of the law of this Church." (Gordon B Hinckley, Nov. 1998)
DjDan said:^ Okay... write a load of rubbish.. and then add in your exaggerated claims of 'magic' too. What a valid post this was. Actually no... i didn't get it... what are you talking about?
DjDan said:Why do I have to prove her wrong? Have I not already quoted from the news site that she initially posted? Didn't it say there that polygamy was banned? It is she that is presenting the claims... surely she should first provide some evidence first.
But anyway... what the heck. Here... if you will accept the church's official statement as evidence... take a read:
For all you ignorant Christians out there... Gordon B. Hinckley is God's prophet over the church.
Is that evidence enough? Now have I proved it? Now do you accept that such claims made in this thread that the church is involved in polygamy are wrong?
peepnklown said:Its always humorous to watch Christians fight other Christians on who is Christian. Why doesnt everyone ask them directly instead of relying on anti-Mormonism propaganda?
msindiausa said:Sorry, Mormons are not Christians...Joseph Smith was not a prophet...Jesus did NOT come to America.
DjDan said:May I suggest that you run away from this thread before you make yourself look any more stupid. You've made it very clear now how ignorant you are of the church that you are trying to bash. No wonder why you don't know that we are christian... you know nothing about us!
No part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints is affiliated with polygamy. Any member who involves himself with it is excommunicated. It's as simple as that.
You say mormons still practice it... you are utterly wrong. give me some evidence of this!
You say it is an acceptable mormon practice.. you are wrong. May i again repeat that it was banned long ago.. and is still banned today.
peepnklown said:The different denominational beliefs of Mormonism arent the point of the matter, the point is that Mormonism: accepts Jesus Christ as their Leader, their king, and Savior, and they belief that, Jesus is their Savior, Redeemer, whose atoning sacrifice has come the opportunity of eternal life, also that Jesus was the living Son of the living God. Isnt that what most Christians believe?
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