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Are few people saved or a large number of people?

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Jesus seems to indicate that many on Judgement day will think they were Christians but Jesus says:

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Knowing Jesus seems to be the key and our obedience to Him. How much time do we spend having personal devotional time with Jesus in His Word in scripture and, through prayer, replacing our will with His will.

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

Jesus says the Second Coming will be much like the days of Noah, so important lessons to be learned there.

God bless!
 
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It starts with the definition of elect. Are they elect because God chose them or are they elect because they chose God ? One can only endure till the end if they play an important part in the relationship.

I say elect are chosen by God because scripture says so. Jesus promises somewhere in John 10 (I'm not at home at the moment I can't look it up. That the elect are in God's hands and nothing can take them out of their hand. It takes a while but God will keep his elect until the end not one will be lost.
 
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Jesus seems to indicate that many on Judgement day will think they were Christians but Jesus says:

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Knowing Jesus seems to be the key and our obedience to Him. How much time do we spend having personal devotional time with Jesus in His Word in scripture and, through prayer, replacing our will with His will.

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

Jesus says the Second Coming will be much like the days of Noah, so important lessons to be learned there.

God bless!

Exactly and what does Jesus say the will of the Father is? He gave the answer. I'll give you a hint it's in the book of John. Matthew 7:21-23 is just another argument for predestination and election.
 
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Jesus when asked about this said "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."

the doctrine of many people going to heaven is nowhere in scripture, there are very clearly few who will be saved

But it is. The promise many will be saved is promised throughout the Bible and originated in the very first book of the Bible. What you are saying is again, just another argument for election.
 
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When I look at many Christians, they don't really live for Christ, only have some kind of "religious" affirmation of having faith. It's sad to see, though I cannot know who is saved and who isn't. I pray that there will be many, rather than a few. I know God is merciful and we are not to worry.

It all depends on election. If they have the Holy Spirit (we cannot know who has the Holy Spirit only God knows that) than they are saved. If they don't, no salvation and they will have to answer to God for their disobedience on judgement day.
 
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I say elect are chosen by God because scripture says so. Jesus promises somewhere in John 10 (I'm not at home at the moment I can't look it up. That the elect are in God's hands and nothing can take them out of their hand. It takes a while but God will keep his elect until the end not one will be lost.
True , God will not forsake the elect. That is His promise. However there is one thing that can separate this relationship, apostasy. A breach in faith is possible.
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Exactly and what does Jesus say the will of the Father is? He gave the answer. I'll give you a hint it's in the book of John. Matthew 7:21-23 is just another argument for predestination and election.
There are several places God reveals His will for us, God’s Word is His will. I am not under the belief that scripture deletes scriptures, but instead reveals the meaning. Seek and you shall find. There is a difference between God being “all knowing” and predestination.
 
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The vast majority of those in the heavens are the holy elect angels who never sinned. The other large group is made up of all sinners flung to the earth.

The vast majority of those flung to the earth are the reprobate weeds, people of the evil one, and a smaller group of sinful but elect sheep, the people of the kingdom.

Most of HIS creation never sinned.
Most sinners are reprobate and,
those elect who sinned are in the least category by a large margin.

So, even if only a few are saved from their sins the vast majority of YHWH's creation will be with HIM in holy marriage.
 
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Jesus seems to indicate that many on Judgement day will think they were Christians but Jesus says:

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

This Matthew 7:21 passage is not referring to those who thought they were Christians. It is referring to Jews who were alive during Jesus' own earthly ministry, who thought their ethnic standing as genetic children of Abraham was enough to get them into the kingdom of God. Compare this Matthew 7:21 text you have listed to its companion text in Luke 13:24-30. We know that this refers specifically to Jews of Jesus' own earthly ministry in this context, because their objection on Judgment Day is, "We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But He shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity."

No other group of persons in all of history could possibly make this statement of having eaten and drunk in Jesus' very presence and experienced His personal teaching except the Jews during those 3+ years of Christ's earthly ministry. THESE would be the ones pleading, "Lord, Lord" for recognition as children of Abraham. But since Jesus' own nation in general had not "received" their own Messiah after He had walked among them, they would be cast out of the kingdom on judgment day, while Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, all the prophets, and the saints came from every point of the compass, including Gentile lands, to sit down in the kingdom of God.

Therefore, we cannot use this Matthew 7:21 text as a rule that limits salvation to only a very few in total. It was only a "narrow gate" to Christ's own generation who ate and drank with Him personally while He was on this earth. That limited, saved Jewish "remnant" of that particular time period is not a limited amount that has always and will always apply to the entirely of human history until the end.
 
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This Matthew 7:21 passage is not referring to those who thought they were Christians. It is referring to Jews who were alive during Jesus' own earthly ministry, who thought their ethnic standing as genetic children of Abraham was enough to get them into the kingdom of God. Compare this Matthew 7:21 text you have listed to its companion text in Luke 13:24-30. We know that this refers specifically to Jews of Jesus' own earthly ministry in this context, because their objection on Judgment Day is, "We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But He shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity."

No other group of persons in all of history could possibly make this statement of having eaten and drunk in Jesus' very presence and experienced His personal teaching except the Jews during those 3+ years of Christ's earthly ministry. THESE would be the ones pleading, "Lord, Lord" for recognition as children of Abraham. But since Jesus' own nation in general had not "received" their own Messiah after He had walked among them, they would be cast out of the kingdom on judgment day, while Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, all the prophets, and the saints came from every point of the compass, including Gentile lands, to sit down in the kingdom of God.

Therefore, we cannot use this Matthew 7:21 text as a rule that limits salvation to only a very few in total. It was only a "narrow gate" to Christ's own generation who ate and drank with Him personally while He was on this earth. That limited, saved Jewish "remnant" of that particular time period is not a limited amount that has always and will always apply to the entirely of human history until the end.

I disagree. This is Jesus telling us in His own words that many on the day of Judgement will say Lord Lord, look at all the things that I did in your name

This scripture tells us very clearly it is right at the Second Coming:

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus has not come back yet, it applies to everyone past and present and a warning for those reading, we can change our path now so Jesus says He knows us when He comes and we can enter into the kingdom of heaven. According to Jesus we are not known though disobedience. Matthew 7:23, 1 John 2:3-5. Today we have time to make changes in our life, but once Jesus comes back, much like the days of Noah when it started raining and the ark closed, it will be too late.

God bless.
 
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I disagree. This is Jesus telling us in His own words that many on the day of Judgement will say Lord Lord, look at all the things that I did in your name

This scripture tells us very clearly it is right at the Second Coming:

I'm not debating that this is the Second Coming. It is. But the ones that are pleading "Lord, Lord", are a very specific group of people at that Second Coming. When you compare the Matthew 7:21 with its duplicate passage in Luke 13:24-30 for the same conversation, it tells you point blank that these doing the pleading are those who personally ate and drank with Christ during His earthly ministry, and who had Him teach in their streets in the cities of Israel. THIS is who the "narrow gate" applied to. This limited "narrow gate" for the ones being saved during Christ's 3-1/2-year ministry did not apply to every generation since creation until the final judgment.

When we consider the entire total of humanity ever conceived, the vast majority of them will experience salvation - not just a limited "remnant", such as the Jews of that brief time period who believed in Christ. That is why the parable calls it a WHEAT harvest, and not a TARES harvest, because the majority are "wheat" gathered into God's "barn".
 
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I'm not debating that this is the Second Coming. It is. But the ones that are pleading "Lord, Lord", are a very specific group of people at that Second Coming. When you compare the Matthew 7:21 with its duplicate passage in Luke 13:24-30 for the same conversation, it tells you point blank that these doing the pleading are those who personally ate and drank with Christ during His earthly ministry, and who had Him teach in their streets in the cities of Israel. THIS is who the "narrow gate" applied to. This limited "narrow gate" for the ones being saved during Christ's 3-1/2-year ministry did not apply to every generation since creation until the final judgment.

When we consider the entire total of humanity ever conceived, the vast majority of them will experience salvation - not just a limited "remnant", such as the Jews of that brief time period who believed in Christ. That is why the parable calls it a WHEAT harvest, and not a TARES harvest, because the majority are "wheat" gathered into God's "barn".
I don't think Jesus is saying on the day of Judgement that some people can be lawless, but others need to be obedient or that some people will be saved by doing the will of God and others can choose their will over God's and still be saved. According to scripture God shows no partiality Romans 2:11 so we will have to agree to disagree. God bless.
 
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I don't think Jesus is saying on the day of Judgement that some people can be lawless, but others need to be obedient or that some people will be saved by doing the will of God and others can choose their will over God's and still be saved. According to scripture God shows no partiality Romans 2:11 so we will have to agree to disagree. God bless.

SB, I think we are talking past each other, and are discussing two different subjects altogether. Perhaps I am not expressing my point clearly enough. But I thought the post's theme was on the subject of what percentage of all humanity would ultimately be saved, versus those who would be lost. I maintain that the greater majority of all humanity is ultimately saved, versus only a few by comparison who are lost.
 
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SB, I think we are talking past each other, and are discussing two different subjects altogether. Perhaps I am not expressing my point clearly enough. But I thought the post's theme was on the subject of what percentage of all humanity would ultimately be saved, versus those who would be lost. I maintain that the greater majority of all humanity is ultimately saved, versus only a few by comparison who are lost.
I thought we were discussing Matthew 7:21-23, this is what I have been discussing and what I thought you were as well based on this response to my initial post.
This Matthew 7:21 passage is not referring to those who thought they were Christians. It is referring to Jews who were alive during Jesus' own earthly ministry, who thought their ethnic standing as genetic children of Abraham was enough to get them into the kingdom of God. Compare this Matthew 7:21 text you have listed to its companion text in Luke 13:24-30. We know that this refers specifically to Jews of Jesus' own earthly ministry in this context, because their objection on Judgment Day is, "We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But He shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity."

I know Jesus wants to save everyone and it is not His will that anyone is lost, but I don't think it's wise to believe that we can be disobedient to God or do our will over God's will and be saved considering the clear message Jesus gave us in Matthew 7:21-23, which is a warning. The good news is, there is time to adjust our behavior and obey Him and do God's will over our own, because we should all want Jesus to know us when He comes back and to hear the words, enter into the kingdom of eternal life!

God bless
 
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I know Jesus wants to save everyone and it is not His will that anyone is lost, but I don't think it's wise to believe that we can be disobedient to God or do our will over God's will and be saved considering the clear message Jesus gave us in Matthew 7:21-23, which is a warning. The good news is, there is time to adjust our behavior and obey Him and do God's will over our own, because we should all want Jesus to know us when He comes back and to hear the words, enter into the kingdom of eternal life!

That portion of your comment underlined is not exactly the message of Matthew 7:21-23. Your emphasis on this text is wanting to concentrate on the OSAS debate for all of mankind, and that is not even the audience Christ was addressing in that text. He was speaking only about those disbelieving Jews of His own generation in that text. Those particular Jews would claim that they had done many wonderful works in God's name - such as casting out devils. Even though they rejected Christ as the Messiah, this was something that the Jewish leaders' families in Christ's time were doing. You remember when Christ asked the Pharisees in Matthew 12:27, "And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out?" THESE disbelieving Jews would be the particular individuals who would be pleading "Lord, Lord..." in that judgment day, in Luke 13:24-30. THEY were the ones who personally ate and drank with the incarnate Christ, and had Him teach in their very streets back in the days of Christ's earthly ministry.

As I have said repeatedly, the "narrow gate" of a group of fewer saved individuals applied to THAT generation of Jews who personally experienced Christ's ministry among them. It is NOT a broadscale "narrow gate" limitation that applies to the total number of all those who are saved from all times of history.

The "narrow gate" limitation applied only to Christ's first-century generation of disbelieving "remnant" of Jews; a minority in that single, isolated case of time and nation.

The "bringing MANY sons unto glory" phrase applies to the resurrected throng of Revelation 7:9 appearing in heaven "whom no man could number", coming from every nation and tongue; the majority of mankind over all of human history.
 
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That portion of your comment underlined is not exactly the message of Matthew 7:21-23. Your emphasis on this text is wanting to concentrate on the OSAS debate for all of mankind, and that is not even the audience Christ was addressing in that text. He was speaking only about those disbelieving Jews of His own generation in that text. Those particular Jews would claim that they had done many wonderful works in God's name - such as casting out devils. Even though they rejected Christ as the Messiah, this was something that the Jewish leaders' families in Christ's time were doing. You remember when Christ asked the Pharisees in Matthew 12:27, "And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out?" THESE disbelieving Jews would be the particular individuals who would be pleading "Lord, Lord..." in that judgment day, in Luke 13:24-30. THEY were the ones who personally ate and drank with the incarnate Christ, and had Him teach in their very streets back in the days of Christ's earthly ministry.

As I have said repeatedly, the "narrow gate" of a group of fewer saved individuals applied to THAT generation of Jews who personally experienced Christ's ministry among them. It is NOT a broadscale "narrow gate" limitation that applies to the total number of all those who are saved from all times of history.

The "narrow gate" limitation applied only to Christ's first-century generation of disbelieving "remnant" of Jews; a minority in that single, isolated case of time and nation.

The "bringing MANY sons unto glory" phrase applies to the resurrected throng of Revelation 7:9 appearing in heaven "whom no man could number", coming from every nation and tongue; the majority of mankind over all of human history.

This is before the Second Coming of Jesus, so unless you think Jesus is only speaking to Jews as the only nation that will be saved, it's certainly not something I believe based on scripture saying if we are in Christ there is no Jew or Gentile, we are one. Galatians 3:28-29.

All scripture is for our learning, it seems dangerous to read scripture on things we don't believe or want to do and say "that doesn't apply to me" while we have free will we are given these instructions about scripture:

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

As much as Jesus wants to save every individual and it's not Jesus will that anyone should perish, but many put their own selfish needs above the will of God. According to scripture there is only a remnant who in the last days that are His saints, and this is how they are described.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The warning in Matthew 7:21-23 very much applies to everyone, but we can change our path now if we want to, on God's terms, not ours .i.e. His will. Once Jesus comes, it will be too late we will have already made our decision.

God bless.
 
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SB, you are totally missing out on the point I am making. I don't know how to make it any clearer. In the Matthew 7 text with its duplicate companion verses in Luke 7:24-30 of the very same speech of Christ's back in Matthew 7, Christ was going to be speaking directly ONLY to those Pharisees and the Jews who rejected Him during His personal earthly ministry among them. Neither you nor I nor anyone else other than THAT first-century generation of Jews has been able to eat and drink in Christ's very presence and have Him teaching personally in our streets.

I never said that only Jews would be saved, nor that only Jews would appear at a judgment before God. I never said that all scripture is not for our learning. I am also not teaching a current separation between Jews and Gentiles in this present world. Of course, there is only "One fold and One Shepherd" with only "One flock" today that makes no distinction between Jew and Gentile. You are objecting to points that I'm not even making.

What I am saying is that the particular conversation in this text has Christ directly speaking ONLY to that group of Jews at the judgment who personally had eye-to-eye contact with Christ during His time on earth. The "narrow gate" limitation applied ONLY to THAT generation of Jews. You cannot extrapolate from that single conversation which was to be spoken to a select group out of humanity, and turn that specific conversation into an all-time "narrow gate" limitation on the number from all of mankind who will be saved. That takes the application of those verses too far.

The apostle Paul said in agreement with the prophet Isaiah that only a remnant of his fellow Jews would be saved from Paul's own particular time period. "Even so AT THIS PRESENT TIME also there is a remnant according to the election of grace ..." (Romans 11:5) Paul never said that the then-existing "present time" limited percentage in his days of saved Jews would apply to all mankind who had or would ever exist, or even to all Jews that had ever been born. That would also take the application of this time-relevant verse in Romans too far.

According to scripture there is only a remnant who in the last days that are His saints, and this is how they are described.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

This Revelation 12 passage applied to the period of time directly after Christ ascended to the Father in that Revelation 12 context. As soon as Christ ascended back to heaven in Acts 1, Satan lost no time in launching a persecution against the remnant of the Jewish woman's seed in Jerusalem. We know this because scripture says that the unbelieving Jewish leadership began a persecution of the Christians on the very same day Stephen was martyred (Acts 8:1). It is a mistake to transport the fulfillment of this Revelation 12:17 verse into our future.
 
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SB, you are totally missing out on the point I am making. I don't know how to make it any clearer. In the Matthew 7 text with its duplicate companion verses in Luke 7:24-30 of the very same speech of Christ's back in Matthew 7, Christ was going to be speaking directly ONLY to those Pharisees and the Jews who rejected Him during His personal earthly ministry among them. Neither you nor I nor anyone else other than THAT first-century generation of Jews has been able to eat and drink in Christ's very presence and have Him teaching personally in our streets.

I never said that only Jews would be saved, nor that only Jews would appear at a judgment before God. I never said that all scripture is not for our learning. I am also not teaching a current separation between Jews and Gentiles in this present world. Of course, there is only "One fold and One Shepherd" with only "One flock" today that makes no distinction between Jew and Gentile. You are objecting to points that I'm not even making.

What I am saying is that the particular conversation in this text has Christ directly speaking ONLY to that group of Jews at the judgment who personally had eye-to-eye contact with Christ during His time on earth. The "narrow gate" limitation applied ONLY to THAT generation of Jews. You cannot extrapolate from that single conversation which was to be spoken to a select group out of humanity, and turn that specific conversation into an all-time "narrow gate" limitation on the number from all of mankind who will be saved. That takes the application of those verses too far.

The apostle Paul said in agreement with the prophet Isaiah that only a remnant of his fellow Jews would be saved from Paul's own particular time period. "Even so AT THIS PRESENT TIME also there is a remnant according to the election of grace ..." (Romans 11:5) Paul never said that the then-existing "present time" limited percentage in his days of saved Jews would apply to all mankind who had or would ever exist, or even to all Jews that had ever been born. That would also take the application of this time-relevant verse in Romans too far.



This Revelation 12 passage applied to the period of time directly after Christ ascended to the Father in that Revelation 12 context. As soon as Christ ascended back to heaven in Acts 1, Satan lost no time in launching a persecution against the remnant of the Jewish woman's seed in Jerusalem. We know this because scripture says that the unbelieving Jewish leadership began a persecution of the Christians on the very same day Stephen was martyred (Acts 8:1). It is a mistake to transport the fulfillment of this Revelation 12:17 verse into our future.

I very much understand your argument, I just disagree with it. I explained why. . .

There is only one salvation, one gospel, one Truth. Jesus does not have different salvations from one set if people to another. Matthew 7:21-23 applies to everyone much like most of scripture. Everyone must do the will of God, not some get a pass and others don't. Some have to obey, others don't. That's what you are teaching here.
 
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There is only one salvation, one gospel, one Truth. Jesus does not have different salvations from one set if people to another. Matthew 7:21-23 applies to everyone much like most of scripture. Everyone must do the will of God, not some get a pass and others don't. Some have to obey, others don't. That's what you are teaching here.

Sorry, but that is NOT what I'm teaching. I am not arguing for different kinds of salvation from one set of people to another. I am not arguing for a "pass" for some and not others. I am stating that the "narrow gate" limitation on the percentage of the number of those being saved in one nation at a particular given period of time has been a different percentage amount at different times of human history.

John 1:11 told us that "He came unto His own, and His own received Him not." Christ was in general rejected by most of His own people while He was on earth. Only a comparatively small percentage - a "remnant" of those alive at that time - passed through that "narrow gate" percentage of that time and "received" Christ as being their own prophesied Messiah. But that limited "remnant" of Jews who received Him back then is not a representative pattern of the entire number of humanity who will eventually be included among those who are saved. Overall, the percentage of the entire number of souls from creation to the final resurrection will be the vast majority who end up inheriting salvation.
 
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Sorry, but that is NOT what I'm teaching. I am not arguing for different kinds of salvation from one set of people to another. I am not arguing for a "pass" for some and not others. I am stating that the "narrow gate" limitation on the percentage of the number of those being saved in one nation at a particular given period of time has been a different percentage amount at different times of human history.

John 1:11 told us that "He came unto His own, and His own received Him not." Christ was in general rejected by most of His own people while He was on earth. Only a comparatively small percentage - a "remnant" of those alive at that time - passed through that "narrow gate" percentage of that time and "received" Christ as being their own prophesied Messiah. But that limited "remnant" of Jews who received Him back then is not a representative pattern of the entire number of humanity who will eventually be included among those who are saved. Overall, the percentage of the entire number of souls from creation to the final resurrection will be the vast majority who end up inheriting salvation.
Ok, let me explain, because I think we are talking about the same thing, but than you bring up something else.

I have been talking about Matthew 7:21-23

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

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That portion of your comment underlined is not exactly the message of Matthew 7:21-23. Your emphasis on this text is wanting to concentrate on the OSAS debate for all of mankind, and that is not even the audience Christ was addressing in that text. He was speaking only about those disbelieving Jews of His own generation in that text.

Which I disagreed and stated this is before the Second Coming of Jesus and a warning for all. You stated Matthew 7:21-23 is only for disbelieving Jews, but that's not what the scripture says. Jesus says he who does the will of My Father in heaven shall enter the kingdom. Does Jesus want only disbelieving Jews to do the will of His Father or everyone? The same applies to those who practice lawlessness. This is a message and warning to everyone that we should not practice lawlessness and should do God's will and not our own. I hope this makes sense....if not let me know. Thanks and God bless
 
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