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Are dragons basically Satan?

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Dragons are described as flight-capable, armored hexapods ("six-feet", here two hind-, two fore-, & two winged-limbs).

Tell that to Daenerys Targaryan.
 
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Im just wondering if this is true, cause I have some kid-friendly dragon material in my household.

No issue, IMO.

Dragons simply represent something with much power that instills fear in people.

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Tell that to Daenerys Targaryan.
Well, you're actually proving my point -- those GoT dragons are designed to look more "earthlike terrestrial realistic", having four limbs like birds...

Whereas Medieval depictions of "hexapod" dragons are more "extra-terrestrial" and "Alien" in appearance, albeit perfectly possibly / plausibly / arguably probably so.
 
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Im just wondering if this is true, cause I have some kid-friendly dragon material in my household.

No. Dragons aren't Satan.

The ancient Greek word drakon basically meant a serpent, as generally speaking ancient mythological dragons were perceived as large snake-like creatures; and this appellation is used to refer to Satan in the Apocalypse.

And so dragons became in Christian art, symbols of the devil; for example the famous story of St. George slaying the dragon (the prototype for all medieval dragon-slaying legends and lore) probably had nothing to do with literal dragons but rather a spiritual battle against the devils.

But dragons aren't Satan any more than snakes are. The only difference is that snakes are real creatures and dragons are fictional. The dragon of ancient world mythology was adopted as an artistic symbol for the devil, just as the lamb has been used to refer to Christ (further, the phoenix and pelican were also symbols of Jesus in Christian writing and art).

There's nothing wrong with modern fiction mentioning dragons, modern fantasy fiction dragons are certainly influenced by ancient and medieval mythology and lore, but they are simply fictional constructs that can be interesting in a story--and are of themselves entirely benign like any other fictional construct--like time machines, interstellar space ships, wizards, or goblins.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Satan is called a "serpent" and a "dragon". Then we have these creatures/dinosaurs, which look like dragons, like draconian, the image of Satan, which roamed the Earth, I believe, BEFORE Adam and Eve.

Then God said, "Let us make man in OUR image". Hummmmmmmmmm...

The reason we might think dinosaurs look like dragons is only because the modern dragon typically is designed to look dinosaurian. Traditional depictions of dragons are far from dinosaurian in appearance.

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Medieval dragons looked much more closely like ancient dragon depictions than modern fairy tale dragons.

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-CryptoLutheran
 
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No. Dragons aren't Satan.

The ancient Greek word drakon basically meant a serpent, as generally speaking ancient mythological dragons were perceived as large snake-like creatures; and this appellation is used to refer to Satan in the Apocalypse.

And so dragons became in Christian art, symbols of the devil; for example the famous story of St. George slaying the dragon (the prototype for all medieval dragon-slaying legends and lore) probably had nothing to do with literal dragons but rather a spiritual battle against the devils.

But dragons aren't Satan any more than snakes are. The only difference is that snakes are real creatures and dragons are fictional. The dragon of ancient world mythology was adopted as an artistic symbol for the devil, just as the lamb has been used to refer to Christ (further, the phoenix and pelican were also symbols of Jesus in Christian writing and art).

There's nothing wrong with modern fiction mentioning dragons, modern fantasy fiction dragons are certainly influenced by ancient and medieval mythology and lore, but they are simply fictional constructs that can be interesting in a story--and are of themselves entirely benign like any other fictional construct--like time machines, interstellar space ships, wizards, or goblins.

-CryptoLutheran
That is correct, and if you take the story of Bel and the Dragon as pure fiction, you are also correct. The story was written bysome unknown person and inserted in the Bible at a much later date, which is also true of the story of the Lions Den.
 
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Im just wondering if this is true, cause I have some kid-friendly dragon material in my household.
BTW, the flag of Wales has a red dragon on it; but there have been plenty of faithful Welsh preachers of the Gospel.
 
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Im just wondering if this is true, cause I have some kid-friendly dragon material in my household.
Basilisk in the R.V. Isaiah15:29 Hebrew "zefa" and "zfoni" , Jeremiah 8:17; The Septuagint uses the word βασιλισκον and the term was not unknown to the most ancient writers of heathendom. First is the etymology of the word. Basilisk is a diminutive from basileus (king). The Egyptians used it when they used to indicate a man of evil tongue. [Eusebius (History Nat.Bk. iv, chap. 29, fo. 120.)].
Jeremiah 8:17 ..and they shall bite you, saith the Lord.
 
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