Are Christian seminaries necessary?

[GregoryTurner]

I would like to ask giver a question actually...

Please interpret these scriptures that have been given in this thread as it relates to what you are trying to get across. Starting with these, please...

2Ti 2:2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithfull men, who shall be able to teach others also.


Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Please...

 

[Giver]

I would like to ask giver a question actually...

Please interpret these scriptures that have been given in this thread as it relates to what you are trying to get across. Starting with these, please...

2Ti 2:2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithfull men, who shall be able to teach others also.


Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Please...

I have a question for you. What do these scriptures have to do with seminaries? It is my understanding that up until Constantine there were no seminaries, and I believe all the Christians before him were able to preach the Word.

 

[ParsonJefferson]

I have a question for you. What do these scriptures have to do with seminaries? It is my understanding that up until Constantine there were no seminaries, and I believe all the Christians before him were able to preach the Word.

Can't even give a simple answer, or explanation, can you?


Unfounded accusations are easy. Good answers often require some sort of education. Your avoidance is duly noted.

 

[Giver]

Can't even give a simple answer, or explanation, can you?


Unfounded accusations are easy. Good answers often require some sort of education. Your avoidance is duly noted.

Do you think, seminaries are the answers to the scriptures, you pretend that you want me interpret?

 

[ParsonJefferson]

Do you think, seminaries are the answers to the scriptures, you pretend that you want me interpret?

Can't even give a simple answer, or explanation, can you?


Unfounded accusations are easy. Good answers often require some sort of education. Your avoidance is duly noted.

 

[Giver]

Can't even give a simple answer, or explanation, can you?


Unfounded accusations are easy. Good answers often require some sort of education. Your avoidance is duly noted.

(Matthew 21:23-25) “He had gone into the Temple and was teaching, when the chief priest and the elders of the people came to him and said. ‘What authorities have you for acting like this? And who gave you this authority? ‘And I’ replied Jesus ‘will ask you a question, only one; if you tell me the answer to it, I will then tell you my authority for acting like this.


Like Jesus told the chief priest and the elders of the people, you answer my question and I’ll answer yours.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

(Matthew 21:23-25) “He had gone into the Temple and was teaching, when the chief priest and the elders of the people came to him and said. ‘What authorities have you for acting like this? And who gave you this authority? ‘And I’ replied Jesus ‘will ask you a question, only one; if you tell me the answer to it, I will then tell you my authority for acting like this.


Like Jesus told the chief priest and the elders of the people, you answer my question and I’ll answer yours.

 

[ParsonJefferson]

(Matthew 21:23-25) “He had gone into the Temple and was teaching, when the chief priest and the elders of the people came to him and said. ‘What authorities have you for acting like this? And who gave you this authority? ‘And I’ replied Jesus ‘will ask you a question, only one; if you tell me the answer to it, I will then tell you my authority for acting like this.


Like Jesus told the chief priest and the elders of the people, you answer my question and I’ll answer yours.

Can't even give a simple answer, or explanation, can you?


Unfounded accusations are easy. Good answers often require some sort of education. Your avoidance is duly noted.

 

[Giver]

Can't even give a simple answer, or explanation, can you? Can you?


Unfounded accusations are easy. Good answers often require some sort of education. Your avoidance is duly noted.

Do you have that education? Show me?

 

[GregoryTurner]

What is the deal with this guy?

Giver, what are you trying to accomplish here?

 

[GregoryTurner]

I have preached quite a bit in my church. Never had seminary before hand.

Do I think seminary is necessary? No. Is it beneficial to my understanding and growing in the Lord Jesus Christ? To a point, yes.

 

[ParsonJefferson]

Do you have that education? Show me?

So... how many times now have you refused to answer the question GregoryTurner asked?

This really is pathetic. You might as well admit that you have no idea.

 

[Giver]

So... how many times now have you refused to answer the question GregoryTurner asked?

This really is pathetic. You might as well admit that you have no idea.

I have answered his questions, but you didn’t either read it or understand it which was it?

You sure haven’t answered my questions to you.

 

[ParsonJefferson]

I have answered his questions, but you didn’t either read it or understand it which was it?

Post #181.

How about you be a good boy and serve us up some good exegesis - something you have NOT done.

 

[Giver]

Post #181.

How about you be a good boy and serve us up some good exegesis - something you have NOT done.

Who are you calling boy? I am almost thirty years your senior.

By the way why should I translate any scripture for you? Haven’t you been through a seminary, don’t you have some other man’s interpretation of them?

Isn’t that why you attended a seminary, to have some one else tell you what it all means? Another man that is, right?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I have preached quite a bit in my church. Never had seminary before hand.

Do I think seminary is necessary? No. Is it beneficial to my understanding and growing in the Lord Jesus Christ? To a point, yes.

Does the one someone attends to be a mininister/preacher go according to the denomination they are in?

 

[ParsonJefferson]

Who are you calling boy? I am almost thirty years your senior.

By the way why should I translate any scripture for you? Haven’t you been through a seminary, don’t you have some other man’s interpretation of them?

Isn’t that why you attended a seminary, to have some one else tell you what it all means? Another man that is, right?

You could probably just admit that you have absolutely no idea how to exegete ANY Scripture - and the reason you're afraid to answer what GregoryTurner asked you in post #181 is because you know you'll probably say something that is absolutely wrong.

But go ahead and keep dancing and spinning, and trying to convince yourself that nobody notices that you cannot exegete the Scripture.

 

[tadoflamb]

Who are you calling boy? I am almost thirty years your senior.

By the way why should I translate any scripture for you? Haven’t you been through a seminary, don’t you have some other man’s interpretation of them?

Isn’t that why you attended a seminary, to have some one else tell you what it all means? Another man that is, right?

Are you teaching infallibly or are you just sharing your opinions?

 

[Giver]

You could probably just admit that you have absolutely no idea how to exegete ANY Scripture - and the reason you're afraid to answer what GregoryTurner asked you in post #181 is because you know you'll probably say something that is absolutely wrong.

But go ahead and keep dancing and spinning, and trying to convince yourself that nobody notices that you cannot exegete the Scripture.

Haven’t you yet realized that this thread hasn’t any thing to do with the interpretation of those scriptures you are concerned about? All you are trying to do is derail this thread.

I can read and know what those scriptures say, and if you are having a problem doing the same, why don’t you just call one of your professors and ask them?

 

[dcyates]

Now isn’t that one of the reasons why we were given the Holy Spirit?

The Holy Spirit doesn't do the work for you. As I've already established in a previous post, the Scriptural pattern is that God has us do all that we are capable of doing and only when we have reached the point where we are incapable does he step in and perform a mighty act.

We are capable of studying and learning Hebrew and Koine Greek. We are capable of studying and learning of the socio-cultural and historical context of the various writings of the Bible. We are capable of learning proper exegetical techniques. It is only when we have exhausted our capabilities that we can expect God to step in and accomplish what we cannot.

God has given us our brains and is happy to allow us to use them. If you obstinately refuse to use yours, don't blame the Holy Spirit.

Once again, if the Spirit--and only the Spirit, without any outside help--gives you anything resembling an accurate interpretation of these texts, I'll concede to your side of this issue.

What's the underlying purpose of Matthew's genealogy of Jesus? Why does Matthew enumerate the 14 generations between Abraham and King David, David and the Babylonian exile, and the exile to Jesus himself (Matt 1.1-17)?

Why does Jesus get baptized? What does he mean when he says that it needs to be done in order "to fulfill all righteousness" (Matt 3.15)?

Why did the Spirit "drive" Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted by satan (Matt 4.1)? Why did the satan choose the particular temptations he did? What is the significance behind them?

How are we to understand Jesus' use of the terms "bind" and "loose" in Matthew 16.19 and 18.18?

What does Jesus intend to communicate with his "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" teaching in Matt 22.21//Mark 12.17)?

What does Jesus intend by his statement in Luke 23.31: "For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?"

The last time I posted these you refused to answer, saying, "Who decided what the correct answers to your questions are any way?" Well, apparently you do.

Or else, if you refuse again, just face it, you won't provide any answers because you don't have any answers. And if it's true as you claimed that, "If Jesus wanted me to know why he said what he did he would tell me, and I would or will never need to rely on man’s guess, educated or not," then I'm afraid to say that Jesus must not want you to know very much.

Please understand, giver, it gives me no pleasure to correspond with you in this way. But at the same time, such pride in ignorance as you portray does neither Christ nor his gospel any favours.