Are all Presbyterians reformed?

[theseed]

Which types are not?

 

[Bulldog]

Hello seed,

Many of the liberal churches/individuals, mainly in the PUCUSA, are not very "Reformed". Unfortunatly, they are "Presbyterian" in only that they follow the Presbyterian form of government One can go to numerous PCUSA churches and find Arminianism being promoted. In fact, the PCUSA says on their website that they do not believe in Biblical inerreny, which contradicts traditional Reformed doctrine.

God Bless

 

[theseed]

Hello seed,

Many of the liberal churches/individuals, mainly in the PUCUSA, are not very "Reformed". Unfortunatly, they are "Presbyterian" in only that they follow the Presbyterian form of government One can go to numerous PCUSA churches and find Arminianism being promoted. In fact, the PCUSA says on their website that they do not believe in Biblical inerreny, which contradicts traditional Reformed doctrine.

God Bless

Is the PCUSA commone in the south?

 

[cajunhillbilly]

Isn't the Cumberland Presbyterian Church Armininan in theology?

 

[Bulldog]

Is the PCUSA commone in the south?

I believe so.

Isn't the Cumberland Presbyterian Church Armininan in theology?

I believe so, but am not completly sure.

 

[theseed]

What are the other Presbyterian denominations?

 

[Foundthelight]

What are the other Presbyterian denominations?

The main ones I know of are:

Cumberland Presbyterian
PCA -- Presbyterian Church in America
PCUSA
The Orthodox Presbyterian Church

PCUSA is liberal, the others conservative.

 

[rmwilliamsll]

The main ones I know of are:

Cumberland Presbyterian
PCA -- Presbyterian Church in America
PCUSA
The Orthodox Presbyterian Church

PCUSA is liberal, the others conservative.

Evangelical Presbyterian
and Christian Reformed

i thought we had a thread here with all the reformed denominations? we really ought to get a FAQ together....

 

[bliz]

Don't forget Reformed Presbyterian.

Let's not overgeneralize about PCUSA, which has churches throughout the US. Many churches fit the "liberal" mold, to be sure, but by no means all. Some are very conservative theologically and teach reformed doctrine quite clearly.

 

[rmwilliamsll]

Don't forget Reformed Presbyterian.

Let's not overgeneralize about PCUSA, which has churches throughout the US. Many churches fit the "liberal" mold, to be sure, but by no means all. Some are very conservative theologically and teach reformed doctrine quite clearly.

i thought RPC merged with PCA.
or is that RPNA???

btw the Confessing Church Movement within the PCUSA seems rather conservative, i am surprised they just don't join the PCA a church or presbytery at a time.

 

[Zorobabel]

RPCNA - Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America

 

[Donny_B]

In fact, the PCUSA says on their website that they do not believe in Biblical inerreny, which contradicts traditional Reformed doctrine.

God Bless

Here's what it says on the PCUSA website:

What do Presbyterians believe about the Bible? We believe that through it God speaks to us--that it is inspired. For some, that means the Bible is inerrant. For others, it means that even though the Bible is culturally conditioned and not necessarily factual or even always true, it breathes with the life of God. In their limited ways, the ancients grasped something of the infinite that we need to hear and dialogue with today.

http://www.pcusa.org/today/archive/believe/wpb9504.htm

For me, I am part of the "some" rather the "others"... I am a Young Earth Creationist, so you know I believe in biblical inerrancy. I understand that there are many evolutionists even in the PCA, who you would have to classify among the "others", since they don't believe in the first part of Genesis.

By the way, this was written by David Robert Ord who studied at the San Francisco Theological Seminary and has now left the PCUSA to become a Unitarian Universalist...

http://bellsouthpwp.net/n/s/nsuu/ministers_page/

I don't know what this is still doing on the web site, though

 

[Bulldog]

Here's what it says on the PCUSA website:

What do Presbyterians believe about the Bible? We believe that through it God speaks to us--that it is inspired. For some, that means the Bible is inerrant. For others, it means that even though the Bible is culturally conditioned and not necessarily factual or even always true, it breathes with the life of God. In their limited ways, the ancients grasped something of the infinite that we need to hear and dialogue with today.

http://www.pcusa.org/today/archive/believe/wpb9504.htm

For me, I am part of the "some" rather the "others"... I am a Young Earth Creationist, so you know I believe in biblical inerrancy. I understand that there are many evolutionists even in the PCA, who you would have to classify among the "others", since they don't believe in the first part of Genesis.

By the way, this was written by David Robert Ord who studied at the San Francisco Theological Seminary and has now left the PCUSA to become a Unitarian Universalist...

http://bellsouthpwp.net/n/s/nsuu/ministers_page/

I don't know what this is still doing on the web site, though

Aye, thanks for the clarification.

 

[Donny_B]

I just sent them an e-mail requesting it be taken off the website since he is no longer a Presbyterian. I welcome others to do the same...

 

[bliz]

i thought RPC merged with PCA.
or is that RPNA???

RPC is properly the RPCNA. There have been conversations over the years with the PCA, but they have been unable to come to terms on the issue of exclusive use of the Psalms in worship. (The RPCNA position.)

 

[rmwilliamsll]

I understand that there are many evolutionists even in the PCA

wow. and i thought i was the only one

http://www.dakotacom.net/~rmwillia/index_ced.html

since it is contrary to our confessional standards i expect people to do what i did at:

*a note to members of RMPCA who might have found these pages as a result of my teaching Institutes
my stand on creation is outside of our confessional standards and as such i will not defend it in the context of the church.
please read: http://www.livejournal.com/~rmwilliamsjr/111699.html