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What denominations believe Salvation can never be lost?

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I was raised in the Baptist denomination. I am a member of the Methodist denomination. My belief is that Christ paid for my sins on the Cross (past, present, future) and He says in His word that nothing can every separate us. I believe I cannot lose my salvation. Nothing can take it away from me. Christ paid the full price. Now if I sin and am convicted of it by the Holy Spirit, I do ask for forgiveness and do my best not to commit it again. Daily living and following Christ is one thing but eternal salvation is another.
 
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I was raised in the Baptist denomination. I am a member of the Methodist denomination. My belief is that Christ paid for my sins on the Cross (past, present, future) and He says in His word that nothing can every separate us. I believe I cannot lose my salvation. Nothing can take it away from me. Christ paid the full price. Now if I sin and am convicted of it by the Holy Spirit, I do ask for forgiveness and do my best not to commit it again. Daily living and following Christ is one thing but eternal salvation is another.
Since the thread title is "what denominations believe..." is it your claim that the Methodist denomination teaches once-saved-always-saved over free will?

Or are you saying that you are Methodist yet choose to believe in OSAS - anyway no matter the position of the Methodist denomination on that subject??

When I ask AI about the Methodist doctrine on OSAS at the level of a denomination I get this answer

"No, the Methodist denomination does not promote the doctrine of "once saved, always saved" (OSAS). Methodists believe that salvation is possible through faith in Jesus Christ, but that ongoing faith and a walk of faith are necessary to maintain that salvation. They do not believe that salvation is guaranteed for life once a person has initially professed faith. "

are there some Methodist groups that teach OSAS?? OR is it just individual by individual differences that can be found in all denominations?
 
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Since the thread title is "what denominations believe..." is it your claim that the Methodist denomination teaches once-saved-always-saved over free will?

Or are you saying that you are Methodist yet choose to believe in OSAS - anyway no matter the position of the Methodist denomination on that subject??

When I ask AI about the Methodist doctrine on OSAS at the level of a denomination I get this answer

"No, the Methodist denomination does not promote the doctrine of "once saved, always saved" (OSAS). Methodists believe that salvation is possible through faith in Jesus Christ, but that ongoing faith and a walk of faith are necessary to maintain that salvation. They do not believe that salvation is guaranteed for life once a person has initially professed faith. "

are there some Methodist groups that teach OSAS?? OR is it just individual by individual differences that can be found in all denominations?
I am a member of the Methodist denomination because the man I married grew up in that church. We were married in that congregation. No the Methodist believe salvation can be lost. I firmly believe in OSAS. I can go to church in any denomination and not believe everything they stand for. However, we have quit going to church period. The Methodist, as several denomination have done, have changed their worship practices(s) to include homosexual(s) to be leaders in the church. So we have decided that churches are succumbing to the ways of the world instead of preaching from God's Word
 
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I am a member of the Methodist denomination because the man I married grew up in that church. We were married in that congregation. No the Methodist believe salvation can be lost. I firmly believe in OSAS. I can go to church in any denomination and not believe everything they stand for. However, we have quit going to church period. The Methodist, as several denomination have done, have changed their worship practices(s) to include homosexual(s) to be leaders in the church. So we have decided that churches are succumbing to the ways of the world instead of preaching from God's Word
Throwing out the baby with the bathwater?
 
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So we have decided that churches are succumbing to the ways of the world instead of preaching from God's Word

There are still plenty of denominations which have not capitulated to the ways of the world, including the Global Methodist Church.
 
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There are still plenty of denominations which have not capitulated to the ways of the world, including the Global Methodist Church.
I think it depends where the congregation is located, as well. I think the GMC is growing.
 
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I am a member of the Methodist denomination because the man I married grew up in that church. We were married in that congregation. No the Methodist believe salvation can be lost. I firmly believe in OSAS.
ok so we agree that on the topic of "denominations and OSAS" - the Methodist church is an example of a denomination that does not hold t "once saved always saved". But at the same time there can be individuals that are members of that church that for one reason or another do believe in OSAS.

I think that is true of a great many denominations.
I can go to church in any denomination and not believe everything they stand for.
true.

I was just referencing the title of this thread.
However, we have quit going to church period. The Methodist, as several denomination have done, have changed their worship practices(s) to include homosexual(s) to be leaders in the church.
understood.

There are changes afoot across a number of denominations in that regard.

I prefer sticking with the bible.
So we have decided that churches are succumbing to the ways of the world instead of preaching from God's Word
yep - there is a trend , for sure.

But not all denominations are taking a leap on that topic. I pray the ones holding to strict sola-scriptura testing of doctrine - stand firm
 
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I’m not sure if any mainline Protestant Church believes in OSAS, but I am not a member so I cannot teach nor comment.

Wiki article on mainline protestant churches


lists the top contenders for that category as the "Seven Sisters" which are:

- but then notice that the Southern Baptist Convention appears to be larger than all of them combined in the top tier listed
Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) [13.2 million]

And of course a great many Southern Baptists hold to the OSAS belief.

(my denomination is almost twice the size of the SBC - but we do not hold to OSAS)
 
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Throwing out the baby with the bathwater?
We do not see it that way. Churches in general have turned into entertainment, etc in order to gain attendance, which is slowly going down, down. I could share a personal and life altering time in our lives which also left us feeling like the pastor of our church failed us. But that would be for another issue
 
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Is there a thread just devoted to OSAS??? I don't want to overtake this thread with my OSAS thoughts.
I think this thread is specifically about OSAS.
 
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We do not see it that way. Churches in general have turned into entertainment, etc in order to gain attendance, which is slowly going down, down. I could share a personal and life altering time in our lives which also left us feeling like the pastor of our church failed us. But that would be for another issue
There was a time when I didn't want anything to do with Christians, because 'they', (I said to myself), —and specially those who came before me as long-time 'mature' believers who should have 'done it right',— instead betrayed me (as it seemed to me, though not me in particular, but in effect), by false living and useless man-centered doctrine. (I had trusted them, but was badly misled, and my life became unlivable as a professing believer, as a result.) These were sincere believers, who, I didn't know, were themselves trying to 'figure it out' and 'doing the best they can'. At that time, I abandoned church too, but I did not generalize, but only held that I was averse to them. I knew there was probably a church I could attend without feeling like I had to stifle my comments.

I do not fault the sheep, but the shepherds. But there are MANY good churches, that don't pursue money. The one I currently attend never even mentions it, nor 'passes the plate', and entertainment is the farthest thing from their mind. And, not all that pass the plate are false, and, not all within which worship is grand or emotional are doing so to gain membership. In my church, at least, the worship is all about who God is, and so is the teaching. Unlike where I grew up, the teaching is not about us, and the worship does not aggrandize how thankful we are.

BTW, in none of that, did it occur to me that God was false or irrelevant. He never did me wrong.
 
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There was a time when I didn't want anything to do with Christians, because 'they', (I said to myself), —and specially those who came before me as long-time 'mature' believers who should have 'done it right',— instead betrayed me (as it seemed to me, though not me in particular, but in effect), by false living and useless man-centered doctrine. (I had trusted them, but was badly misled, and my life became unlivable as a professing believer, as a result.) These were sincere believers, who, I didn't know, were themselves trying to 'figure it out' and 'doing the best they can'. At that time, I abandoned church too, but I did not generalize, but only held that I was averse to them. I knew there was probably a church I could attend without feeling like I had to stifle my comments.

I do not fault the sheep, but the shepherds. But there are MANY good churches, that don't pursue money. The one I currently attend never even mentions it, nor 'passes the plate', and entertainment is the farthest thing from their mind. And, not all that pass the plate are false, and, not all within which worship is grand or emotional are doing so to gain membership. In my church, at least, the worship is all about who God is, and so is the teaching. Unlike where I grew up, the teaching is not about us, and the worship does not aggrandize how thankful we are.

BTW, in none of that, did it occur to me that God was false or irrelevant. He never did me wrong.
What a wonderful post. Sounds like you struggled there for a time. I was brought up Baptist, Free-Will Baptist, Church of God, etc. My father was not a christian and my mother took us to Sunday school and church. She could not decide which denomination nor church she preferred. I am not against churches per se just that it seems more secular than ever. There are good and sincere people in churches world wide. Of that I am certain. There just have been certain issues happening to me and my husband which has disillusioned us. Nothing has turned us away from God Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth. We listen to various preachers via videos, radio and have our own personal devotion time. God has carried us through many uncertain times.
 
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