Apparently Joe Arpaio was innocent of the charges - after all

[GoldenBoy89]

The "new one" invented was the one that says it is now illegal in Arizona to uphold the law passed by congress regarding immigration into the United States.

That's sounds like you just made that up. What law are you talking about?

 

[TLK Valentine]

True. And so also Arpaio -- the problem is "the left does not"

The real problem is by removing the back half of my post before quoting the rest out of context, you're telling exactly half the truth.

The Sheriff was enforcing the Law passed by congress. That point does not change.

Still haven't heard whether or not you want him raiding your house for drugs -- no worries, I wouldn't, either.

I love this quote from the OP

"In fact, the United States Department of Justice admitted before trial that it is “unaware of facts” that would support “that Defendant and other MCSO officers detained plaintiffs on the basis of race."

Probably because the USDOJ wasn't fully briefed on the case -- why should they be? They weren't prosecting it.

Many/most American citizens (even voters) believe that taking the Sheriff's Oath of Office means that the Sheriff is sworn by an oath - to uphold the Law. To carry out orders "I can lawfully execute" as stated in that oath.

Presumably Arpaio took such an oath of office.

Indeed -- and a federal judge found him in contempt for violating that oath... and not for the first time. Perhaps you were unaware that's what started this whole fiasco?

Many have argued that a Sheriff that is condemned because he chooses to uphold the laws in America - violates Constitutional intent and the written law of the land.

They can out-shout Hurricane Harvey; without knowing or caring about the relevant law, their uninformed opinions are worth squat.

A pardon for someone who chose the LAW over leftism is what is being discussed.

You mean someone who broke the law because he hates leftism... no wonder Donald pardoned him.

==== as opposed to pardon members of domestic terrorist groups like FALN

Careful -- your whataboutism is showing.

 

[BobRyan]

when endless complaining about fictional ideas that do not even remotely apply to the OP topic have been exhausted --- then... a "new diversion"

If leftists have this much trouble with someone who voted against Trump - what will they do if an actual pro-Trump Republican shows up??

losing is an art-form for leftists when it comes to political elections in America

 

[DaisyDay]

What law? the new one?? Is there a law that requires that state law enforcement ignore federal law???

Remember - emotion does not change fact.

Here is "another" example of federal law --

"Aircraft and Motor Vehicle Crimes – Aircraft and motor vehicle crimes include destruction of the vehicles and operating these vehicles under impairment. Threats, drive by shootings, or interference with air traffic signals are included under this heading."

Are you "certain" that you want to jump off the leftist cliff of demanding that state law enforcement IGNORE federal crimes??? or is "just for certain federal crimes" that you want state law enforcement to ignore the law???

Arpaio wasn't even state law enforcement - he was local municipal, specifically Maricopa County. His jurisdiction was limited.

 

[cow451]

Arpaio wasn't even state law enforcement - he was local municipal, specifically Maricopa County. His jurisdiction was limited.

Stop with facts. It's so annoying.

 

[szechuan]

Well it is emotionalism when you ignore the actual fact posted in the OP as noted above.
Simply making the false accusation is not the same thing as "having a fact" in support of it.

We didn't ignore anything, you're the one rambling and repeating yourself like making the same false claim as many times as possible makes it true.

We already told you the links you posted were just opinions from his judge and you Blatantly ignored those facts.

 

[wing2000]

A pardon for someone who chose the LAW over leftism is what is being discussed.

...discussed within your own head BobRyan.

You clearly are more concerned about spouting your warped ideology than standing on the principle of law and the U.S. Constitution.

 

[Allandavid]

If leftists have this much trouble with someone who voted against Trump - what will they do if an actual pro-Trump Republican shows up??

Point out to them that Trump pardoned a convicted racist...?

 

[Paulos23]

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...-conviction-without-oral-arguments/614854001/

It is not over yet. Looks like Joe is trying to get the charge thrown out.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The "new one" invented was the one that says it is now illegal in Arizona to uphold the law passed by congress regarding immigration into the United States.

Why did Joe limit himself to Arizona? Slacker...

 

[FireDragon76]

Frankly, six months is too short for his crimes.

 

[variant]

Only if we are willing to turn a blind-eye to immigration laws passed by congress and upheld by law enforcement. (which of course some extreme leftist-agendas are perfectly happy to do).

(posted as someone who did not vote for Trump BTW)

You have to turn a blind eye to some of the laws to be perfectly OK with contempt of court regardless.

If you are willing to turn a blind eye to contempt of a federal judge and call yourself "law and order" because the person doing the deed agrees with you then you've probably replaced due process with a dictatorial authoritarian mindset.

 

[Allandavid]

You have to turn a blind eye to some of the laws to be perfectly OK with contempt of court regardless.

If you are willing to turn a blind eye to contempt of a federal judge and call yourself "law and order" because the person doing the deed agrees with you then you've probably replaced due process with a dictatorial authoritarian mindset.

Spot on...!

Arpaio's real crime (and Trump's by extension) is the belief that people of authority can pick and choose which legally instituted orders they will follow and those they will flout.

A country which claims to be a "nation of laws" cannot operate like that...

 

[Hank77]

yeah, the oppressive left is so unhinged trying to Enforce Federal Law. How dare they.

There are ways to Enforce Immigration laws Passed by Congress without Discrimination and treating them like animals.

Especially without detaining LEGAL US citizens.

 

[Hank77]

Consider the president doing the pardoning.

Just two peas in a pod.

 

[jgarden]

Accepting a presidential pardon is an admission of guilt - if Arpaio truly felt he was innocent, he should have appealed the verdict as a matter of principle.

Given that Arpaio is in his 80's its doubtful if he would have served any jail time, so this is yet another example of this President squandering whatever political capital he has left by continuing to undermine public confidence in the judicial system!

 

[BobRyan]

Accepting a presidential pardon is an admission of guilt -

what guilt??

 

[BobRyan]

Arpaio's real crime (and Trump's by extension) is the belief that people of authority can pick and choose which legally instituted orders they will follow and those they will flout.

I judge that says "I make it illegal for you too uphold your oath of office where you swear to uphold and defend the Laws of the land" -- puts a undue burden on Law enforcement.... obviously.

 

[Goonie]

I judge that says "I make it illegal for you too uphold your oath of office where you swear to uphold and defend the Laws of the land" -- puts a undue burden on Law enforcement.... obviously.

Good thing the judge did not do that.

 

[BobRyan]

Good thing the judge did not do that.

There is some alternate reality that just might provide a fact for that conclusion

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The Sheriff was enforcing the Law passed by congress. That point does not change.
I love this quote from the OP

"In fact, the United States Department of Justice admitted before trial that it is “unaware of facts” that would support “that Defendant and other MCSO officers detained plaintiffs on the basis of race."


Many/most American citizens (even voters) believe that taking the Sheriff's Oath of Office means that the Sheriff is sworn by an oath - to uphold the Law. To carry out orders "I can lawfully execute" as stated in that oath.

Presumably Arpaio took such an oath of office.

Many have argued that a Sheriff that is condemned because he chooses to uphold the laws in America - violates Constitutional intent and the written law of the land.

A pardon for someone who chose the LAW over leftism is what is being discussed.

==== as opposed to pardon members of domestic terrorist groups like FALN


The Sheriff was enforcing the Law passed by congress. That point does not change.

Even the DOJ has nothing to refute it.

"In fact, the United States Department of Justice admitted before trial that it is “unaware of facts” that would support “that Defendant and other MCSO officers detained plaintiffs on the basis of race."

=================================

And no "NEW" DoJ revelations "since".

Go to the border and you will find " LAW enforcement "detaining individuals suspected of being in the U.S. illegally"

Arpaio "He was convicted July 31 of criminal contempt for disobeying a federal judge's order on detaining individuals suspected of being in the U.S. illegally."
Trump asked Sessions to drop charges against Arpaio months ago: report