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Mhm.Hands-up don't shoot did, absolutely happen. We'll never know for sure if it happened in Ferguson (i'm willing to believe it probably didn't), but it did happen:
2nd more, clear video of man shot with hands up here:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...eals-details-in-fatal-shooting-of-6692051.php
Do you have a link for the 2400+ officers killed?
tulc(is just curious)
Some cop getting paid 50k a year has to wait until someone else shoots first?
Are the interactions negative because of the cops?
Or are the negative because of a false narrative the black community/media is portraying about cops?
Thanks! Been here? https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2016?ref=sidebar On here they break the deaths down into categories and also have a short blurb on the officer who died and the circumstances. They also include police K9 deaths in the statistics.
tulc(nice site, very well run!)
Thanks! Been here? https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2016?ref=sidebar On here they break the deaths down into categories and also have a short blurb on the officer who died and the circumstances. They also include police K9 deaths in the statistics.
tulc(nice site, very well run!)
When dealing with a kid in an open space waving what may or may not be a gun around with no target in particular? They should at least wait until it's clear that there's any threat to their lives. You might as well ask, "Should some volunteer firefighter be expected to run into a burning building?" Yeah, it's kinda in the job description. We hold these people to high standards because if we don't, things like this happen.
There is no false narrative here. Racial bias is extremely prevalent in every level of law enforcement.
Can we at least agree that the cop didn't break the law? I get that you think he exercised poor judgment...but you do realize that he didn't break the law...right?
Ok...how do you know that? It's a rather large and sweeping generalization so I hope you've got something to back it up.
He was acquitted by a grand jury. I feel that he should at least have been on the hook for voluntary manslaughter. The idea that he could just roll up on the scene like that and immediately open fire just doesn't sit right. It shows a degree of paranoia that should not be acceptable.
Drug arrests:
https://www.aclu.org/feature/war-marijuana-black-and-white
Traffic stops:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/us/racial-disparity-traffic-stops-driving-black.html?_r=0
Stop and frisk:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/20...he_controversial_policy_is_really_really.html
Sentencing:
https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/2170-new-study-by-professor-david-s-abrams-confirms#.VsQp9_nhCJA
Shootings:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/police-shootings-ferguson-race-data
I'd search for more, but my break is almost over and these statistics are not hard to find.
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Hands-up don't shoot did, absolutely happen.
We'll never know for sure if it happened in Ferguson (i'm willing to believe it probably didn't), but it did happen:
One would think so..........Mhm.
It looks like hands up is the signal to start shooting.
One would think so..........
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Good post except a lot of stories are run, not based on what sells, rather on how the media owner is interested in shaping public opinion.Lol no...I tend to stay away from those sites...I find them to be a bit of a downer.
I'd like to state that in spite of the tone of my posts, I don't like our current criminal justice situation in the U.S. I don't like it that so many people get killed by cops (even though it's not really a large number, I'd still prefer if our statistics were closer to that of the rest of the 1st world), I don't like it that so many cops are killed by civilians, and I certainly don't like the amount of violence that the average citizen (and cop) faces due to crime.
I just don't think it's accurate to place the blame on the police force. We live in a nation where guns are so prevalent that most children can get them easier than they can get marijuana. We live in a nation where people think everyone should be able to pack heat wherever they go. As a result of these things...we live in a nation where cops are inclined to assume the worst (justifiably in my mind) of everyone they encounter and keep that mindset as the starting point for every call they answer.
There's a lot that can be done about this...from reducing income inequality, to improving public education, and putting smarter restrictions on firearms. That's what I see as real solutions to the crime situation we have in this nation.
It's not like I don't understand why the media is so caught up in this narrative of an increasingly violent and criminal police force. It sells...period. Giving a more realistic picture of the police doesn't sell. Stories about how poverty and the lack of opportunities to rise above it can create criminals doesn't sell. Stories about how widespread proliferation of guns leading to a more violent culture in general isn't even a story that anyone can get anywhere with because our government (with some prodding by the NRA) has all but made it illegal to get accurate statistics on the topic.
It's just my opinion that given the massive income inequality, the poor and outdated public education sector, and maybe the loosest gun laws in the first world....we've got about as good of a police force as we can reasonably expect.
Mhm.
It looks like hands up is the signal to start shooting.
They made a series of decisions that put themselves into a circumstance of limited choices.Why did they shoot the men with their hands up......and then laughed about it?
(great moovie...i had forgotten that part...)
Good post except a lot of stories are run, not based on what sells, rather on how the media owner is interested in shaping public opinion.
They made a series of decisions that put themselves into a circumstance of limited choices.
They had begun the mission with no plans to take prisoners, I assume.
Yeah. Much in life is. That's why the Grimm brothers were such a success.that's.....
terrifying.
The mission's only purpose was to capture, dominate, and control something.What does that mean, "no plans to take prisoners"?
One would've been too many.
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