Anyone else have a unique eschatology?

[2PhiloVoid]

Good thing I am not taking about the entire Bible... only Revelation(a unique book).

Revelations and Daniel and any other little apocalyptic bit in the Prophets, or Gospels, or Paul or Peter or ....

 

[dwb001]

That's what I was afraid you'd say.

Perfect love drives out fear.

Fortunately, a thesaurus is free now days and easily accesible online. You should try it sometime.

I dont do the online thing.

You're doing it now by your bold, dogmatic assertions.

what assertions? Specifically.

I mean, it is what it is. But how about this: instead of bonking most other Christians over the head with your aplomb and certainty, just extend a charitable olive branch and invite discussion without the pretense of getting us to eat the cheese in the mousetrap.

that is your perception of this then you can stop reading... easy.

Many times, over many years.

Questionable.

Both.

Doubt it. It is a God or Mammon question. When the Bible and other sources are in conflict you believe both. Not a position that holds up.

 

[dwb001]

Revelations and Daniel and any other little apocalyptic bit in the Prophets, or Gospels, or Paul or Peter or ....

Revelations????? I don't know that book.

But Revelation is unique in the Bible.

 

[dwb001]

Stay on track.

The promise was-- "I will never AGAIN destroy everything that lives as I have just done."

Didn't happen?

Have a good day dwb. Be honest.

You changed your answer.... you be honest.

God didn't say He destroyed the Earth as you originally claimed. Life on Earth is different from the Earth.

Please keep your arguments logical and coherent.

 

[AYM]

Nope.

Revelation is a very simple book of the Bible to understand. Why do so many have issues with reading it?

I'm having trouble understanding your position then. The fact is, others are as well. I'm not trying necessarily to debate you in this topic, but can you explain why you think the rapture is both before the tribulation and after the millennium - with the tribulation taking place before the millennium?

 

[dwb001]

I'm having trouble understanding your position then. The fact is, others are as well. I'm not trying necessarily to debate you in this topic, but can you explain why you think the rapture is both before the tribulation and after the millennium - with the tribulation taking place before the millennium?

I do not belive that.
Ask better questions.

 

[AYM]

I do not belive that.
Ask better questions.

What do you believe? Explain clearly.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Revelations????? I don't know that book.

But Revelation is unique in the Bible.

I need to start using Grammarly for its spell-check. .... yes, I know it's the book of "Revelation." But thanks for citing my typos.

 

[dwb001]

What do you believe? Explain clearly.

About what? What part do you find confusing and I will be happy to clarity for you.

 

[dwb001]

I need to start using Grammarly for its spell-check. .... yes, I know it's the book of "Revelation." But thanks for citing my typos.

You are welcome. See how much better it is when people are polite.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Perfect love drives out fear.

Oh no. Here you go with your eisegesis. Maybe stop offering this sort of response as a counter in this case? It's counter-productive.

I dont do the online thing.

You're online right now.

what assertions? Specifically.

You're making claims, claims that may or may not be in need of further evidence. In this case, some of your interpretations may need further support in order for anyone else to understand them as well as accept them as "authoritative." OR simply correct.

that is your perception of this then you can stop reading... easy.

Oh, good gravy! Lighten up a little.

Questionable.

I could say the same about you, but you don't see me doubting that you've read the Bible. If you've done it dozens of times, congrats! But we all know the hard part if living it, even with Revelation lurking over our shoulders as it does.

Doubt it. It is a God or Mammon question. When the Bible and other sources are in conflict you believe both. Not a position that holds up.

I would agree with you that it is God or Mammon, but mammon in this case doesn't necessarily equate to "opinions taken from other Christians that play into how I understand the Bible."

 

[2PhiloVoid]

You are welcome. See how much better it is when people are polite.

It's definitely better, that is, if our interlocutors will allow us to get to that sort of mutually amiable point ...........

Anyway, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you'd prefer all of us to be amiable. So, let's proceed on that premise.

 

[dwb001]

Oh no. Here you go with your eisegesis. Maybe stop offering this sort of response as a counter in this case? It's counter-productive.

Why?

You're online right now.

Really???

You're making claims, claims that may or may not be in need of further evidence. In this case, some of your interpretations may need further support in order for anyone else to understand them as well as accept them as "authoritative." OR simply correct.

what claims?

Oh, good gravy! Lighten up a little.

I like gravy.

I could say the same about you, but you don't see me doubting that you've read the Bible. If you've done it dozens of times, congrats! But we all know the hard part if living it, even with Revelation lurking over our shoulders as it does.

Every day I know life is hard.

I would agree with you that it is God or Mammon, but mammon in this case doesn't necessarily equate to "opinions taken from other Christians that play into how I understand the Bible."

I don't believe I ever said that. Please control the excessive attribution to a minimum.

 

[dwb001]

It's definitely better, that is, if our interlocutors will allow us to get to that sort of mutually amiable point ...........

Anyway, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you'd prefer all of us to be amiable. So, let's proceed on that premise.

Perfect.

 

[Mr E]

You changed your answer.... you be honest.

God didn't say He destroyed the Earth as you originally claimed. Life on Earth is different from the Earth.

Please keep your arguments logical and coherent.

Don't drown in ignorance. Don't play semantics (it's dishonest). Call (Gen) 9:11

I confirm my covenant with you: Never again will all living things be wiped out by the waters of a flood; never again will a flood destroy the earth.

 

[dwb001]

Don't drown in ignorance. Don't play semantics (it's dishonest). Call (Gen) 9:11

Present your references along with your arguments to avoid confusion. In the future.

I confirm my covenant with you: Never again will all living things be wiped out by the waters of a flood; never again will a flood destroy the earth.

I would put the emphasis on flood.

Does earth in this instance refer to the planet or to the landmass?

 

[Mr E]

Present your references along with your arguments to avoid confusion. In the future.

I would put the emphasis on flood.

Does earth in this instance refer to the planet or to the landmass?

The emphasis is placed on the verb-- the action. "Destroy" You want to mince words. You now suggest-- Oh, God meant that He would never again destroy the earth with a flood..... He's gonna destroy it with fire. I actually agree with that. And after the fire, the earth will be made new--(renew) a new heaven and a new earth. But wait! You think that God is going to destroy heaven as well? Why else would we need a new one?

 

[dwb001]

The emphasis is placed on the verb-- the action. "Destroy" You want to mince words. You now suggest-- Oh, God meant that He would never again destroy the earth with a flood..... He's gonna destroy it with fire. I actually agree with that. And after the fire, the earth will be made new--(renew) a new heaven and a new earth. But wait! You think that God is going to destroy heaven as well? Why else would we need a new one?

Please show where there is emphasis in Hebrew language.

Yes the heavens and earth will pass away. Is there a problem that I believe what God said?

 

[Mr E]

Please show where there is emphasis in Hebrew language.

Yes the heavens and earth will pass away. Is there a problem that I believe what God said?

Again, the problem is that you don't.

I'm not sure that you understand English concepts, why would I wear out my fingers explaining Hebrew to you? Do you understand that the operative word in this discussion is the concept of destruction?

 

[dwb001]

Again, the problem is that you don't.

I'm not sure that you understand English concepts, why would I wear out my fingers explaining Hebrew to you? Do you understand that the operative word in this discussion is the concept of destruction?

Nope... the idea I am working on is the Earth. You might want to talk destruction.... I don't. And it appears as if you don't even qualify for this discussion under the OP request for an open mind.