Anyone been baptized twice?

[MasterYourLife]

Yeah, and Baptism is under the New Covenant and everyone gets to be in the Covenant, even babies.

That's where you're mistaken. You can't borrow from an old testament covenant, which had nothing to do with faith, and apply it to baptism. When the disciples were debating whether gentiles should circumcise, they mentioned nothing about it being replaced by baptism. This is because it didn't. The Jews would still circumcise because they were still under the covenant. Then how you could you have both, if one replaces the other? You can't.

Paul says, "having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead."
A baby has no faith and thus can't be part of baptism.

 

[MasterYourLife]

Nowhere does it say any of that in the Bible.

Then I encourage you to read through the Bible and look for yourself.

 

[Albion]

Paul says, "having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead."
A baby has no faith and thus can't be part of baptism.

That's a passage in which an adult is being addressed, so of course it is speaking of his own situation. Against it we have several passages in Scripture which speak of whole households being baptized on the testimony the head of the household, so we know that baptizing infants is proper and Apostolic.

 

[MasterYourLife]

That's a rationalization. Against it we have several passages in Scripture which speak of whole households being baptized on the testimony the head of the household, so we know that baptizing infants is proper and Apostolic.
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List those "several passages".

 

[Not David]

I will just stop since this is not the place for debating.
OP, your infant baptism is fine for now.

 

[MasterYourLife]

I will just stop since this is not the place for debating.
OP, your infant baptism is fine for now.

How about some verses to back up your opinion.

 

[Not David]

“Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38). But he did not restrict this teaching to adults. He added, “For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him” (2:39, emphasis added).

 

[MasterYourLife]

“Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38). But he did not restrict this teaching to adults. He added, “For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him” (2:39, emphasis added).

We are saved how? "By faith through grace alone".
Baptism doesn't save, therefore "the promise" is not referring to salvation.
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Let's dissect it.
"For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call."

First, who is the promise for? You, your children, all that are afar off: and as many as the Lord our God shall call.
You is referring to you personally. Your children is referring to generations(offspring -not indicative of age [ex: your child can be 50 years old]). All that are afar off is referring to ... literally everyone ... including who God calls.

So what's the promise?

The promise was the gift of the Holy Spirit, as mentioned in the same chapter.

So if an infant isn't saved by baptism, and cannot declare it's faith publicly, and the parents faith does not account for infants faith and thus salvation ("you and your family will be saved"), then there is no reason for infant baptism.

As for your first verse, "repent everyone of you", infants can't repent.

 

[Not David]

We are saved how? "By faith through grace alone".
Baptism doesn't save, therefore "the promise" is not referring to salvation.
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Let's dissect it.
"For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call."

First, who is the promise for? You, your children, all that are afar off: and as many as the Lord our God shall call.
You is referring to you personally. Your children is referring to generations(offspring -not indicative of age [ex: your child can be 50 years old]). All that are afar off is referring to ... literally everyone ... including who God calls.

So what's the promise?

The promise was the gift of the Holy Spirit, as mentioned in the same chapter.

So if an infant isn't saved by baptism, and cannot declare it's faith publicly, and the parents faith does not account for infants faith and thus salvation ("you and your family will be saved"), then there is no reason for infant baptism.

As for your first verse, "repent everyone of you", infants can't repent.

If you want to debate make your own thread in "General Theology ". I just provided my Bible verse and I am getting out of here.

 

[Bcs90]

That's where you're mistaken. You can't borrow from an old testament covenant, which had nothing to do with faith, and apply it to baptism. When the disciples were debating whether gentiles should circumcise, they mentioned nothing about it being replaced by baptism. This is because it didn't. The Jews would still circumcise because they were still under the covenant. Then how you could you have both, if one replaces the other? You can't.

Paul says, "having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead."
A baby has no faith and thus can't be part of baptism.

it doesn't strictly say there you need faith as you are being baptised though? in which.. so then through faith you were raised.. When you water a flower, you may say "I gave the flower water, in which it will grow." .. it takes awhile for a flower to grow. thats how i interpret it anyway. I find your post judgmental and insulting because you are basically sayin all people that were baptised as infants are Godless and it's blasphemy.. how do you know the extent of everyone's relationship with God and their salvation but God alone.
I'll be watching out for your posts in the future.

 

[MasterYourLife]

it doesn't strictly say there you need faith as you are being baptised though? in which.. so then through faith you were raised.. When you water a flower, you may say "I gave the flower water, in which it will grow." .. it takes awhile for a flower to grow. thats how i interpret it anyway. I find your post judgmental and insulting because you are basically sayin all people that were baptised as infants are Godless and it's blasphemy.. how do you know the extent of everyone's relationship with God and their salvation but God alone.
I'll be watching out for your posts in the future.

You came here expecting an answer that you wanted. You didn't get it, now you're offended.

"And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest."

And like I just mentioned above, baptism doesn't produce salvation. Only faith does through grace.

 

[Jonaitis]

There is this thing going on at the lake this weekend, church picnic and baptizing people in the lake. I asked my dad if he wanted to but he replied "No. I've been baptized, I like to stay dry." lol. I've been baptized as a baby too but I have not even began seeking God until recently. I guess the reason I was considering it is because I don't yet feel "transformed" and concern that if I don't get baptized again I may lose my chance at salvation?

But I don't know if thats truth that could just be a false truth I've led myself to think.

Is being baptized once enough?

Baptism is only valid if it done properly. The only recipients to the sacrament are professing Christians, which an infant cannot be. It sounds to me your baptism was invalid and you need to be truly baptized if you so profess to be in the faith, examining in your heart whether you have understood and received the gospel. Until then, I cannot consider you baptized.

We must have the mode and formula right as well as the proper recipients to the ordinance.

 

[Bcs90]

I admit I question my infant baptism but I don't state it like it's a fact.. You just come off as self righteous and condescending to me. Who told you infant's baptisms were in vein? God? Or..? And are you 100% sure without doubt you are interpreting things correctly instead of just hearing it how you want to?

 

[MasterYourLife]

I admit I question my infant baptism but I don't state it like it's a fact.. You just come off as self righteous and condescending to me. Who told you infant's baptisms were in vein? God? Or..? And are you 100% sure without doubt you are interpreting things correctly instead of just hearing it how you want to?

If I tell you what you want to hear, what good is that to you.
I'm giving you the other side. If you don't want to accept it, that's on you. No one's forcing you.

 

[Bcs90]

If I tell you what you want to hear, what good is that to you.
I'm giving you the other side. If you don't want to accept it, that's on you. No one's forcing you.

I am definitely considering being rebaptized but I just want things to be CLEAR without anyone shovin opinions down my throat.. What if my infant baptism was valid and being rebaptized is vain?

 

[Jonaitis]

I admit I question my infant baptism but I don't state it like it's a fact.. You just come off as self righteous and condescending to me. Who told you infant's baptisms were in vein? God? Or..? And are you 100% sure without doubt you are interpreting things correctly instead of just hearing it how you want to?

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." - Acts 2:38

"But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women." - Acts 8:12

"Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?" - Acts 10:47

 

[MasterYourLife]

I am definitely considering being rebaptized but I just want things to be CLEAR without anyone shovin opinions down my throat.. What if my infant baptism was valid and being rebaptized is vain?

I'm showing you what I believe, because of how I and many others interpret scripture.
The only way you will truly believe for yourself, is interpreting for yourself, and really going deep into studying.
Here, all you'll get is opinions.

Before answering the questions of vain baptism.
Ask what the meaning of baptism is to you.
Is it just another religious act you want to cross of the check-list.
Or is it something you're passionate about, because you want to obey all of God's commands, and get closer to Him.

 

[Tigger45]

I am definitely considering being rebaptized but I just want things to be CLEAR without anyone shovin opinions down my throat.. What if my infant baptism was valid and being rebaptized is vain?

• This is a good question to have for yourself because if baptism is efficacious as with The Lord’s Super then that sets your theological tarjectory in a specific direction and the denominations within that paradigm.

 

[Bcs90]

• This is a good question to have for yourself because if baptism is efficacious as with The Lord’s Super then that sets your theological tertiary in a specific direction and the denominations within that paradigm.

what

 

[Bcs90]

I'm showing you what I believe, because of how I and many others interpret scripture.
The only way you will truly believe for yourself, is interpreting for yourself, and really going deep into studying.
Here, all you'll get is opinions.

Before answering the questions of vain baptism.
Ask what the meaning of baptism is to you.
Is it just another religious act you want to cross of the check-list.
Or is it something you're passionate about, because you want to obey all of God's commands, and get closer to Him.

I think I do want to get baptized (again) in hopes it will increase my faith. but you are saying I need that faith while being baptized. (or before)

can you point to any scripture that proves this?