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Any virgins?

Do you believe in the importance of virginity?

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Shadolus

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The future is more important than the past. We've all sinned and fallen short and I'm much more interested in now and the future than what someone did in their past.

^Agreed.

I don't condemn anyone personally. Premarital sex is a sin. But guess what? We're all sinners.... gasp! I'm a virgin myself, and I really don't have any shame in saying so, but I don't hold this over anyone. Like others have said, it should be coupled with purity in mind. I have stayed this way for multiple reasons; because it is what God asks of us, because I want to commit myself fully to my wife and this would be unfair to her, and because when we sleep with someone it has a real spiritual effect. Paraphrasing the Bible... we become one with that person and when we have sex with multiple partners it has a real spiritual consequence.

I found this below(it's not from me). It has a good outlook on it.

There is no Hebrew or Greek word used in the Bible that precisely refers to sex before marriage. The Bible undeniably condemns adultery and sexual immorality, but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Since 1 Corinthians 7:2 clearly includes sex before marriage in the definition of sexual immorality, all of the Bible verses that condemn sexual immorality as being sinful also condemn sex before marriage as sinful. Sex before marriage is included in the biblical definition of sexual immorality. There are numerous Scriptures that declare sex before marriage to be a sin (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

Far too often we focus on the “recreation” aspect of sex without recognizing that there is another aspect—procreation. Sex within marriage is pleasurable, and God designed it that way. God wants men and women to enjoy sexual activity within the confines of marriage. Song of Solomon and several other Bible passages (such as Proverbs 5:19) clearly describe the pleasure of sex. However, the couple must understand that God’s intent for sex includes producing children. Thus, for a couple to engage in sex before marriage is doubly wrong—they are enjoying pleasures not intended for them, and they are taking a chance of creating a human life outside of the family structure God intended for every child.
 
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Virginity is important, even God thinks/thought it was important. God chose Mary, the virgin, to bear Jesus. Some will say she was very young, that's why she was a virgin. No matter what, God chose a virgin to bring Jesus (THE Messiah) into the world.

God chose a virgin because if he didn't, how would the birth be a miracle? If he had Jesus pop out of a woman that everybody knew was having sex, would that create the message that this baby is special?
 
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Virginity is important, even God thinks/thought it was important. God chose Mary, the virgin, to bear Jesus. Some will say she was very young, that's why she was a virgin. No matter what, God chose a virgin to bring Jesus (THE Messiah) into the world.

It's important, and God believes it's important, but this has nothing to do with it since there won't be a circumstance like Mary bearing Jesus ever again.
 
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God chose a virgin because if he didn't, how would the birth be a miracle? If he had Jesus pop out of a woman that everybody knew was having sex, would that create the message that this baby is special?

Exactly. Virginity was one of those things that made Mary right for this most Holy responsibility, but there were other attributes as well. This is taken from a website...

"Mary was a simple young woman of no great talent. She was not rich or famous. However, she did possess the qualities that God was looking for to bear his Son: Courage, willingness, love for God, and purity. Mary was a brave woman who would not shrink from this monumental task. She was an incredible role model then and now.

Was Mary predestined for this awesome assignment? Yes, God decided that he would choose her even before she was born. She was knowledgable about her own religion and surrendered freely to the will of God. Mary understood the Jewish prophecies foretelling the Messiah. She was chosen after free will and predestination interacted. Everything came together to point toward Mary to be the Mother of Christ.

Mary was a humble woman who loved God above all else, a woman of faith who trusted in God. She was pure in body and spirit, and knew that God would take care of her.

Seemingly average and undistinguished, there was more to Mary than met the eye. She was brave, faithful, God-filled, and pure. She is a great role-model for young women, and destined for greatness. Her faith was unquestioned, and her love of God knew no bounds. God chose her because He knew Mary could rise to any occasion."

Why Did God Choose Mary to be the Mother of Jesus? | Relijournal
 
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I am not a virgin. I wish I had the wisdom I have now years ago. Yeah, sex is great. But I'd bet it's even better inside God's desires for us.
Wow, I feel like I'm at a meeting. hah!
I've been celibate for about a year now and I plan to keep it that way until I get married.
 
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I know it might sound like an awkward question, but are there any virgins here on the forums?

In case anyone was wondering, I'm a virgin myself.

I had to ask, because it seems wherever I go people accept premarital sex as normal and justifiable, but I know the bible says otherwise. Why do we (and should we) place so much emphasis in the importance of being virgin before marriage?

I am. I would like my wife to be, but I don't consider it a deal breaker if she isn't. All that matters is where her heart is now.
 
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I'm 24 and I'm a virgin. I will wait until the right person comes along and we get married. As an aside...I've never even kissed a girl. Not out of principle, it's just never worked out I guess. Oh well. It will happen when the time is right.

You're not alone.
 
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There was an earlier thread about women who are not thin mistreating women who are thin.

As a 39-year-old male virgin, I can relate. You know, people implying that my status is due to self-esteem problems, mental illness, pathological shyness, etc. It has even happened in this forum called Christian Forums.

Now I am reading in this thread that, basically, virginity is not a big deal. It's purity that is a big deal, or something like that, people are saying.

If it is not a big deal then why do people feel the need to pathologize a person over it? If it is not a big deal then why do people feel the need to downplay it and point to other things such as "purity"?

In that aforementioned earlier thread the concensus was that the root cause was things like "jealousy" and "insecurity"...

Anyway, nobody has ever given me a rational reason to behave differently. However, I have plenty of rational reasons not to change. You know, things like unwanted pregnancy, venereal diseases, etc.

Sexuality is a very complicated personal and social phenomenon and people's experience with it can be due to countless variables.

All of this virginity vs. purity; "I made a mistake but now I am pure. That's what really matters"; virginity is ideal, but...; "I'm not necessarily waiting until marriage but I am waiting until I am with somebody I am close to emotionally"; etc.; etc. business is extremely oversimplistic, in my humble opinion.

Or am I also going to be judged for not being "pure"? I am sure that my experience--basically, being a male virgin mostly for practical reasons--does not meet any theological idea of "purity".
 
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I'm new to the forum and I appreciate the discussion on this topic. All the posts I've read have been thought-provoking and from the heart. I am a 41 year old virgin and I plan to stay that way until marriage. Some may say I should just give up and give in because of my age but I'm determined to live my life according to God's standards and not the world.

I agree with a lot of you when you add purity to the equation. It is very important that purity is taught too because just "being" a virgin is not enough. You have to have the right heart and mind to be a good Christian no matter what your sexual status.

I look forward to interacting with the group more. Thank you for your wonderful comments!
 
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There was an earlier thread about women who are not thin mistreating women who are thin.

As a 39-year-old male virgin, I can relate. You know, people implying that my status is due to self-esteem problems, mental illness, pathological shyness, etc. It has even happened in this forum called Christian Forums.

Now I am reading in this thread that, basically, virginity is not a big deal. It's purity that is a big deal, or something like that, people are saying.

If it is not a big deal then why do people feel the need to pathologize a person over it? If it is not a big deal then why do people feel the need to downplay it and point to other things such as "purity"?

In that aforementioned earlier thread the concensus was that the root cause was things like "jealousy" and "insecurity"...

Anyway, nobody has ever given me a rational reason to behave differently. However, I have plenty of rational reasons not to change. You know, things like unwanted pregnancy, venereal diseases, etc.

Sexuality is a very complicated personal and social phenomenon and people's experience with it can be due to countless variables.

All of this virginity vs. purity; "I made a mistake but now I am pure. That's what really matters"; virginity is ideal, but...; "I'm not necessarily waiting until marriage but I am waiting until I am with somebody I am close to emotionally"; etc.; etc. business is extremely oversimplistic, in my humble opinion.

Or am I also going to be judged for not being "pure"? I am sure that my experience--basically, being a male virgin mostly for practical reasons--does not meet any theological idea of "purity".

I don't think virginity was downplayed. I think the point that most posters that brought up purity wanted to emphasize was that what's in your heart is the important thing. For example, if you hated other people and really wanted to see them suffer and die but didn't act on it, would that make you a good person in God's eyes ?
 
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I'm a virgin. It's something I've struggled with, however, going from being ashamed of it to being proud of it, often in the course of a single day. I'm much more steady about it now, but it still nags at me; and it doesn't help that I haven't had a steady relationship in almost two years.

Following God has helped to dissipate many of my lusts, and to encourage me to wait for marriage. But I find myself more encouraged by the idea [or daydream] that I'll meet a Christian virgin like myself, and that we'll be satisfied that we're exclusive to each other when it comes to sex, with no memories of past sexual partners to hold us down. But I realise that this is an ideal, and a selfish one at that, and it may not be met if God wills against it.

And it's at those times, when I doubt that God will provide me with a pure spouse, that I begin to question my motives for virginity. The biggest worry that comes to my mind is this: Am I choosing to be a virgin because I beleive that true love waits? Or, am I not choosing to be a virgin (i.e. being an involuntary celibate) and simply using the Church as a facade to hide my insecurites?

I'm a mess. That's all I have to say. :doh:
 
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