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I shouldn't think they believe they're alive.
But besides, do people involved with animistic folk religions have something wrong with them mentally?
Well, the post blamed everything but the rapists. Those listed things are merely scapegoats...the fact they are traditional is irrelevent. No different than when it was traditional to believe the earth was flat. Did people balking at the assertion of a round earth change the fact it wasn't round?
Rape is about dominance and that dominance just happens to be expressed sexually. It is not all about sex for pleasure.
Here is my take on the whole "is rape about sex or power" argument...
You get people in life who are extremely submissive and extremely dominant, plus everything in between, that is, they get sexually turned on being submissive or dominant. I'd imagine a serial rapist would lie somewhere near the extreme end of dominant (note, not all dominant people are rapists!). So yes, it is about power but it is also about sex. To say it isn't about sex is incredibly naive I think. The proof is, if you took away someone's sex drive I'm pretty certain they wouldn't rape anyone or even want to rape anyone (and not just because they can't get an erection!). Modern medicine may yet prove me right.
I would say pleasure plays a major part. If the rapist didn't think he was going to get pleasure from it, he wouldn't do it!
I would say pleasure plays a major part. If the rapist didn't think he was going to get pleasure from it, he wouldn't do it!
Here is my take on the whole "is rape about sex or power" argument...
You get people in life who are extremely submissive and extremely dominant, plus everything in between, that is, they get sexually turned on being submissive or dominant. I'd imagine a serial rapist would lie somewhere near the extreme end of dominant (note, not all dominant people are rapists!). So yes, it is about power but it is also about sex. To say it isn't about sex is incredibly naive I think. The proof is, if you took away someone's sex drive I'm pretty certain they wouldn't rape anyone or even want to rape anyone (and not just because they can't get an erection!). Modern medicine may yet prove me right.
Sex drive is not what causes rape. It's because someone is too horny. There is no comparison between S/M relationships and rapists because those relationships are based on CONSENT prior to activity and sometimes includes a "Safe word" so if one person gets scared they say that safe word and the other person knows to immediately stop. Rape victims have no Safe word because they did not consent in anyway.
Here's a decent link and there are tons out there about the many myths of rape.
http://www.coolnurse.com/rape.htm
Interestingly it is found most serial rapists have no power or dominance in life, and therefore need to find it in sex, hence raping. Usually they have low end jobs or cannot keep jobs, have little respect and bad relationships. Not always, but as a stereotype. They then try to get control through rape and feeling the power surge that way.
I don't think he meant S/M or D/s or BDSM (although I could be mistaken?) with the whole dominance and submissive roles. I think he was saying some people are overly dominant and need to use this through sex as a form of rape. I don't agree necessarily but see where he's coming from, I just look at it a bit differently. Typically I think rapists have little power and feel small in life, and desire to have this dominance in sex, getting pleasure that way because it makes them feel in control and all powerful when they really are not.
The dominance is part of the sexual act, and you've both said that the rapist derives pleasure from it, so I don't see where the argument is here, so I stand by what I said, pleasure plays a major role.
That's backwards...the sex is an accidental part of the dominance. It is derivative and coincidental, not the cause nor the goal.
I have said the rapist derives pleasure from the dominance. I have never said the pleasure is from the sex so let's try to keep it straight to avoid confusion please.
Well I'm saying the dominance is all part of the sexual act. I'm not even sure if you read my posts properly as this is all getting pretty tiresome.
Where have I mis-read your posts? Here you are saying the dominance is all PART of the sex act. Correct? Firstly, it is not a "sex act" because in a sex act there needs to be consent. Secondly, that is why iam saying it is backwards...you are putting the "sex act" at the center saying that the dominance is all PART of that. The dominance is the reason for the rape and it is an accident of life that the most vile form of degradation is sexual criminal behavior.
Yes, all probably true, when I talk about submissiveness and dominance, I mean specifically in a sexual way. I realise a lot of people who are submissive in everyday life can enjoy being dominant in the bedroom, and vice versa.
Again, I'm not really referring to someone's dominance or submissiveness in everyday life, only during sex or sexual acts. RealDeal jumped the gun a bit though by assuming I think that rape is an act people in the BDSM scene carry out commonly. I don't think that.
Incidentally, I watched a TV documentary where convicted paedophiles (who were in prison) volunteered to take a new drug that takes away your sex drive. The prisoners reported that all urges to rape or molest children had now gone, and they were pretty confident that upon release they would no longer be a danger to society. This would suggest that your sex drive does play a major role in rape.
Here is my take on the whole "is rape about sex or power" argument...
You get people in life who are extremely submissive and extremely dominant, plus everything in between, that is, they get sexually turned on being submissive or dominant. I'd imagine a serial rapist would lie somewhere near the extreme end of dominant (note, not all dominant people are rapists!). So yes, it is about power but it is also about sex. To say it isn't about sex is incredibly naive I think. The proof is, if you took away someone's sex drive I'm pretty certain they wouldn't rape anyone or even want to rape anyone (and not just because they can't get an erection!). Modern medicine may yet prove me right.
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