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Maybe I was absent or skipping class when we were taught about our goverment system of checks and balances.

As far as I know this is the third Executive Order our President has put out.
1 Immigrants being automatic citizens.
2 Gay Marriage
3 Gun law.

Hopefully someone more educated than myself can tell me when we came under Sosicalist Dictatorship in America.

It is no longer a small minority over ruling a vast majority,it is one man placing his own law over our laws that founded this Nation.
In contemporary times starting from John F. Kennedy onward, Ronald Reagan, Republican of California, issued the most number of executive orders during his Presidency; 381. 213 during his first term. 168 during his second. (SOURCE:The American Presidency Project)

At this point I don't think the number of EO's in the past are the issue but rather the motive of the current CIC presently occupying our White house and for nearly another full year. America has grown weaker in the ME since he's entered office. The GOP promised they'd stop his assault on our Republic if given the majority in both houses and to date they've not kept that promise. If he is allowed to remain in office given he has nearly a full year still in power what will he do knowing his authority has an expiration date come the November 2016 election?
Beware of the enemy that operates within a nation and serves because the victims in majority put him there. Twice.

Executive orders coming? Here's how they work
Tuesday, 28 Jan 2014


God save America.
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this was why i specifically replied to a specific individual and not the thread in general.. because some people just enjoy splitting hairs to be belligerent .
the smaller invasions have been happening every day for years when united nations laws prohibited you from disallowing immigrants based on religious preference . once they wee few -now they are very many -they are not a race of people they are a collective philosophy -and they are solidly established in your midst and now you about to receive them in vast numbers .- if you think that will have no adverse effect .. your an ostriches uncle . islamic saying "where we build a mosque -there ,we will rule " - trouble is what is coming your way ,troubles like you have not seen before
...United Nations laws? Do go on...
 
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Cool. So can you explain what you mean by "i first encountered the saying 15 years before 9/11" please?
sure .i wasn't sure what you were referring to by the "ground zero mosque" .. all i know is my dad returned from israel many years ago ..many years before 9'11 occurred and told me this saying was spoken by the muslims there .

Also in my own country youths have been heard while fighting with locals .."we don't care what you think .. we are going to rule your country one day any way " -this thinking is prevalent among islamic philosophy -you don't submit to others all other must submit to you. -not that it bothers me - as the lord Jesus will return and destroy ALL the kingdoms of the world .. and establish righteousness . the use and rome both being among the kingdoms that wil be destroyed
 
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I did not qoute this with my question

Is the idea of gay marriage propaganda?
Or is it the law of the land.?
If it is law how did this take place?
Gay marriage is not a law itself. The laws that banned gay marriage and prevented gay couples from obtaining a marriage license, have been ruled to be unconstitutional because they discriminate against gender.
 
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Thank You,so the Supreme Court superceded states rights?
The States never had the right to discriminate against gay couples seeking a marriage license. The Supreme Court exists specifically to determine what is or is not constitutional.

They did their job.
 
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Wrong. His executive orders merely constitute the manner in which he sees that legislation is enacted. For instance, while the Obama Administration has kicked out more illegal immigrants than any American President, he has the discretion to decide which illegal immigrants to concentrate on.
Monarchs use discretion to ignore laws. Tell me where in the Constitution such discretion is given to the president. Do the words "He has refused his accent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for public good" ring a bell?

Also, please give me a citation for the "kicked out more illegal immigrants than any American President." If you'd like a fairly good article to take the edge off your claim, look here.
 
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The Supreme Court exists specifically to determine what is or is not constitutional.

They did their job.
Sadly, their job is no longer bound by determining if something is consistent with the Constitution. They simply declare something right, wrap it in a legalese, and disregard or find novel never before known truths hidden in the "penumbra" of the Constitution. Regarding marriage, Kennedy simply thought marriage needed redefined and got other justices to agree without much regard to the Constitution.
 
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In this country, Congress makes laws, not the president. Making new laws or changing existing laws as he has done for the last 7 years is a violation of his oath to defend the Constitution and an impeachable offense.
Then, by all means, impeach him.
 
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Also, please give me a citation for the "kicked out more illegal immigrants than any American President." If you'd like a fairly good article to take the edge off your claim, look here.

It was apparently the 'right' who first made this claim about Obama. In an ad targeting Hispanic voters it was stated:

"Don’t be fooled by President Obama’s words," the narrator says. "He’s not committed to immigrants. He only wants our vote. With the election on the line, he offers our undocumented youth a temporary solution that cheats them of legal status. Why didn’t he keep his promise to push immigration reform? Instead, Obama has deported more people than any other president in this country's history. With friends like these, who needs enemies?"

The group behind the ad, American Principles in Action is an affiliate of the American Principles Project, a group founded by conservative scholar Robert George of Princeton University. The group’s staff member responsible for Latino issues is Alfonso Aguilar, the former chief of the U.S. Office of Citizenship under President George W. Bush.

Here is what Politifact stated about this claim:
Given the rhetoric that sometimes criticizes Obama for being weak on illegal immigration, we wondered if that was true. We found it was, for the most part.

According to current figures from Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- the federal agency responsible for deportations -- Obama has removed 1.4 million people during his 42 months in office so far. Technically, that's fewer than under George W. Bush, whose cumulative total was 2 million. But Bush’s number covers eight full years, which doesn’t allow an apples-to-apples comparison.

If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents.

We wondered whether there might have been a surge of undocumented immigrants that explained the increase, but there wasn’t. During the first two years of Obama’s tenure, the Pew Hispanic Center estimated the illegal immigrant population nationwide at 11.2 million, compared to an average during Bush’s eight-year tenure of 10.6 million. And illegal immigration actually peaked late in Bush’s second term, at which point the recession hit and the numbers declined under Obama. Such patterns do not explain the 57 percent bump in monthly deportations that we found under Obama.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rack-obama-deported-more-people-any-other-pr/
 
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Monarchs use discretion to ignore laws. Tell me where in the Constitution such discretion is given to the president.
What laws has he ignored? If you talking about immigration, it's quite simple. He has the resources to deport a certain number of people per year. The amount of people eligible to be deported is higher then that number. Short of Congress specifying enforcement priorities, part of the President faithfully enforcing the law is to determine how to use limited resources.
Do the words "He has refused his accent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for public good" ring a bell?
Yes. I'm not sure how King George refusing to allow any laws to be passed involving the colonies has anything to do with President Obama.
 
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This chart will show the influx of illegals, started a long time ago.
Obama is using inflated numbers via the ice program.
I cannot understand the lack of enforcement of the law from all of the political spectrum.

But the political correctness police have changed the terminology to undocumented rather than illegal.
Notice the green bars on graph, the return rate,or repeated offender rate.

If someone who is a citizen commits a Felony such as putting bacon on a doorknob they lose their civil rights to vote.
So the question is , are the illegals felons ? Since they are not citizens I suppose they have no rights to lose.
What does giving amnesty to all illegal immigrants here say for our lawmaker president Obama who spent 30 minutes a while back promoting amnesty on National television.
 
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This chart will show the influx of illegals, started a long time ago.
Obama is using inflated numbers via the ice program.
I cannot understand the lack of enforcement of the law from all of the political spectrum.

But the political correctness police have changed the terminology to undocumented rather than illegal.
Notice the green bars on graph, the return rate,or repeated offender rate.

If someone who is a citizen commits a Felony such as putting bacon on a doorknob they lose their civil rights to vote.
So the question is , are the illegals felons ? Since they are not citizens I suppose they have no rights to lose.
What does giving amnesty to all illegal immigrants here say for our lawmaker president Obama who spent 30 minutes a while back promoting amnesty on National television.
"a Felony such as putting bacon on a doorknob"?
 
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What does giving amnesty to all illegal immigrants here say for our lawmaker president Obama who spent 30 minutes a while back promoting amnesty on National television.

He has never suggested giving amnesty to all illegal immigrants.
 
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Section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Our Constitution

What is a invasion?

invasion
[in-vey-zhuh n]
noun
1.
an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy,especially by an army.
2.
the entrance or advent of anything troublesome orharmful, as disease.
3.
entrance as if to take possession or overrun:
the annual invasion of the resort by tourists.
4.
infringement by intrusion.

What trust is broken when our President seeks to grant Amesty to the invaders, without considering the States rights under the Constitution?
 
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