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There have, by the way, been no executive orders granting citizenship to illegal immigrants or legalizing same-sex marriage. Someone has been lying to you.

I did not qoute this with my question

Is the idea of gay marriage propaganda?
Or is it the law of the land.?
If it is law how did this take place?
 
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The Supreme Court reviewed state laws about same sex marriage. They decided it was unconstitutional for a state to discriminate with regard to marriage solely based on gender.

Thank You,so the Supreme Court superceded states rights?
 
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Thank You,so the Supreme Court superceded states rights?

On constitutional matters, yes. If a state makes a law that violates a person or a group of peoples' constitutional rights (ie: women can't become police officers, black people can't drive at night, Christians can't drink alcohol on Sundays, etc.....), then a person or a group of people can (after going through lower courts) appeal to the Supreme Court to hear their case and decide if the law made is constitutional. One of three things will then happen.

1. The supreme court finds the law constitutional, so the law, and all just like it, stand.
2. The supreme court finds the law unconstitutional, so the law, and all just like it, are revoked.
3. The supreme court refuses to hear the case, so the last court to have ruled opinion is what stands.
 
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I did not qoute this with my question

Is the idea of gay marriage propaganda?
Or is it the law of the land.?
If it is law how did this take place?

In the United States, any homosexual couple may marry so long as they met the other requirements of their state (age, distance of or no blood relationship, etc..). The Supreme Court reviewed specific state laws about same sex marriage. They decided it was unconstitutional for a state to discriminate with regard to marriage solely based on gender.
 
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Maybe I was absent or skipping class when we were taught about our goverment system of checks and balances.

As far as I know this is the third Executive Order our President has put out.
1 Immigrants being automatic citizens.

Seriously? You think the President made immigrants into automatic citizens? Can you point to even one instance where he did this? Evidence from a reliable source please.

2 Gay Marriage

Last I heard it was the Supreme Court that legalized gay marriages not the President.

3 Gun law.

He hasn't made any guns laws. What he has done is close some loopholes on the enforcement of existing laws. In other words he has ordered the ATF to make sure all guns are properly registered and licensed as the law requires.

Hopefully someone more educated than myself can tell me when we came under Sosicalist Dictatorship in America.

We didn't.
 
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One issue beyond the executive orders is the growing severity of them and overall concentration of power in the executive branch. Congress has been giving pieces of its power away for decades and just now is starting to bemoan the fact.
 
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As I mentioned I am ignorant to the politics of today.
As far as authority I knew about the veto a President can perform, has this been a normal circumstance for past President's?

Or did Bush get this power through the national security act?

Executive Orders have always been there. George Bush issued 294, Clinton 364, Reagan 381. I take back what I said about Obama issuing fewer than any president since Clover Cleveland. George Bush Sr. and Gerald Ford issued fewer, but they were single term presidents.
 
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As I mentioned I am ignorant to the politics of today.
As far as authority I knew about the veto a President can perform, has this been a normal circumstance for past President's?

Or did Bush get this power through the national security act?
Executive Orders have existed since the founding of the nation. However I think the only major case law that limits them is the Steel Seizure Case in 1952.

For the first, people who immigrated here illegally were not granted citizenship. Instead those who fit certain requirements were placed lower on a list of priority for enforcement of immigration laws, which is a legitimtate executive decision. Because it is just a enforcement regulation, it can easily be reversed.

The second as was already explained was done by action of the Supreme Court which found that it was unconstitutional to use gender as the only criteria to determine if somebody could marry.

I'm reserving final judgement on the current action until it is published and I can read it, but it seems to fall firmly within the Youngstown framework. Wikipedia has a pretty good summary of that framework
Jackson divided Presidential authority vis-à-vis Congress into three categories (in descending order of legitimacy):
  • Cases in which the President was acting with express or implied authority from Congress
  • Cases in which Congress had thus far been silent
  • Cases in which the President was defying congressional orders (the "third category")
 
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I know a Judge shot down the immigration order, what happened to gay marriage?

There was never a immigration order like the one you described to begin with. The president cannot be bestow citizenship on anyone, nor has he ever tried. As for gay marriage, that was settled by the courts, not executive order.
 
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You guys had a president named Grover?
You are hilarious!

Uh, this was the 19th century. Give us a break!
I believe around this time your prime minister's name was Wilfred.
 
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