Another shot thread

[Sabertooth]

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I just don't see the point if they are going to be immunized anyways, in prolonging the experience. I would want my child to be immunized in the most effective immunity producing way possible.

From what I can tell (apart from ethical conerns), the issue hasn't been combined vaccines as much as it has been the effects of cumulative thimerosal on a poorly understood test group during a very vulnerable stage in life. I have AS and have done okay with limited exposure thimerosal (having had less required vaccines as a child) and getting flu and tetanus shots, as needed, and a whole slew of military vaccines.

 

[EbonNelumbo]

My suggestion is to have them spread out. 5 at one time would even make me cringe!

 

[Leanna]

But if you do one at a time spread out over a period of time, then the subsequent shots will not be fought as hard.

Sorry I can't post links yet... but this is quoted from a site called immunize.org
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If two live virus vaccines are inadvertently given less than 4 weeks apart, what should be done?

If two live virus vaccines are administered less than 4 weeks apart and not on the same day, the vaccine given second should be considered invalid and repeated. The repeat dose should be administered at least 4 weeks after the invalid dose. Alternatively, one can perform serologic testing to check for immunity, but this option may be more costly.
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I just don't see the point if they are going to be immunized anyways, in prolonging the experience. I would want my child to be immunized in the most effective immunity producing way possible.

You contradicted yourself. In your first post you said not to spread them out. In your second post you said not to have them too close together. Yes you cannot have them too close together. However, you can have them farther apart. If you look each one up in the center for disease control you will find that most (all?) of the diseases have a 90-98% effective rate after just one dose, so second doses are often irrelevant and pointless, but there is no harm in having them spaced farther apart.

 

[greenhearts]

I actually didn't contradict myself... the site quoted says that if you do them separately(not the same day), but closer together than 4 weeks then you don't effectively acquire immunity to the later one(s) given. Because the body is busy fighting the first immunization, the one given 2 or 3 weeks is effectively ignored.

If you still don't understand the quote I can try and find a clearer one?

 

[jgonz]

There still is no proof that vaccinations even work the way the medical community says they do.... there is a missing link there.

 

[Leanna]

I don't really understand the relevance. Who is giving their child shots every two to three weeks? Secondly, who is giving their child live shots every two to three weeks?

 

[greenhearts]

The OP is talking about spacing them out, but you are right... she didn't actually give a time frame for that did she?

I feel sometimes like an apology is expected when someone posts something unknown by, or disagreed with by another member... usually not even the OP.

 

[heart of peace]

greenhearts, I don't think anyone is looking for an apology. I agree that your posts came off inconsistent in this thread. Your OP came across differently than the conclusion of the quote you posted. It is logical that Leanna asked for clarification and sources to back up your statements. After all, this thread is not only a heated one in the world of parenting but it is also life altering.

 

[llghoney]

I just wasn't sure if it was a good idea or not to space them out or go ahead & give them all at once. I know docs say all at once. I'm just praying nothing happens wether I choose to spread them out (however long the doc says I can) or get them all at once.

 

[~Mrs. A2J~]

I just wasn't sure if it was a good idea or not to space them out or go ahead & give them all at once. I know docs say all at once. I'm just praying nothing happens wether I choose to spread them out (however long the doc says I can) or get them all at once.

It's not up to the doc it's up to YOU. Ask for their opinion by all means but remember you have the final say and you are allowed to disagree with the doc.

 

[llghoney]

I think my thing is is that I'm not a doc so I'm thinking what if I do spread them out & something happens. Either way I just hate having to have her get them even though I know I have to.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/index.asp

I found this book extremely helpful and informative. For our own personal reasons, we are delaying/selectively vaccinating our daughter.

The website above has lots of good information too, but the book was the best for me. Very well laid out with both pros and cons, including alternative vaccination schedules for those who want to spread them out, etc.

This is specifically about delaying vaccines/alternative vaccine schedules.:
http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/labels/Alternative%20Vaccine%20Schedule.asp

 

[katelyn]

I think my thing is is that I'm not a doc so I'm thinking what if I do spread them out & something happens.

That's why it's important to make your decisions based on an informed analysis of your child's risk vs. benefit for each vaccine.

For example, if you are a breastfeeding stay-at-home mom, your child is in the group least likely to contract one of the diseases the vaccines are made to fight, and most vaccines can likely be delayed.

However, if your child goes to daycare, that puts them at higher risk to contract illnesses from the other children, so you may not want to put vaccines off as long in that situation.

Others have already discussed making decisions based on family history and allergies.

You can also consider how serious the disease is--how common is this disease, and what happens if my child does get it somehow?

To me, there's a big difference in deciding to vaccinate for something that is very rarely fatal (i.e., the child would just be sick for a bit with no permanent side effects) and vaccinating for something that can truly alter a child's life if they contract it.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

That's why it's important to make your decisions based on an informed analysis of your child's risk vs. benefit for each vaccine.

For example, if you are a breastfeeding stay-at-home mom, your child is in the group least likely to contract one of the diseases the vaccines are made to fight, and most vaccines can likely be delayed.

However, if your child goes to daycare, that puts them at higher risk to contract illnesses from the other children, so you may not want to put vaccines off as long in that situation.

Others have already discussed making decisions based on family history and allergies.

You can also consider how serious the disease is--how common is this disease, and what happens if my child does get it somehow?

To me, there's a big difference in deciding to vaccinate for something that is very rarely fatal (i.e., the child would just be sick for a bit with no permanent side effects) and vaccinating for something that can truly alter a child's life if they contract it.

 

[Hadassah]

Definitely what Katelyn said. I asked the pediatrician and he said the longer you breastfeed also factors in. 6 months after you stop, the baby's immune system kicks in on it's own... that is when (hypothetically) one would need the vaccines, when you stop giving your immunity to them.

Some vaccines are so new, we told them outright no, and it would not be on the table of discussion again. We said ask again at age 2 on DTaP. Ask again at age 1 on some others. We'll likely not do any though due to how badly affected people in our family (the men mostly) have been to the vaccines they've received, allergies and also how DH and I reacted to the vaccines slated, and the fact they've been changed in the 20+ years since we had them (worse reactions now in the children who had bad reactions).

I feel it is too risky for us considering how advanced JD is. I believe fully he would be set back.

 

[llghoney]

See that's another thing it's like formula fed babies are at risk for everything. Makes me kinda upset and like I'm a bad mom.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

You're not a bad mom at all But there are definitely huge benefits to breastfeeding- that's why we were encouraging you so much when you first had her to continue on.

But formula feeding by far does not mean you are a bad mommy

 

[Birbitt]

llghoney....don't feel like you are a bad mom! I only breastfed my oldest for 2 months (he wouldn't latch on and my milk dried up) and my youngest wasn't breastfed at all. They are both happy healthy little boys. We did vax our oldest almost completely (he is only missing the prevnar vax) and our youngest is also mostly vaxed (missing prevnar and I think one other) but my boys were in daycare for a while when I was working there and I wanted them completely protected. If we have another baby I think we will spread them out much more than we did with our first two especially since our children are no longer in childcare. So don't feel like you are a bad mom just because you chose not to breastfeed. Your baby will still be fine, actually when my oldest was a baby we used the original baby formula with him not the new stuff they had with the dha and ara in it because that kind made him spit up constantly! So he got the regular with iron formula and he's still a VERY healthy 5 YO boy, and he's no different from other children. You have to make the choice that is best for your family and honestly breastfeeding just isn't for everyone, some people have to work and can't do it, some people don't produce enough milk, some have health issues and must take meds, some just decide that formula is best for their baby and they are all great mothers. The important thing isn't what you feed your baby it's how you treat your baby!! A baby can be breastfed and still be at risk especially if the mother doesn't take an active interest in that baby, just like you can formula feed your baby and she will still be a beautiful, healthy baby girl because her mommy loves her and does what is best for her! YOU ARE A GREAT MOTHER BECAUSE YOU WORRY ABOUT MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICES FOR YOUR DAUGHTER!!!!!!

 

[heart of peace]

Sending a PM instead

 

[GolfingMom]

See that's another thing it's like formula fed babies are at risk for everything. Makes me kinda upset and like I'm a bad mom.

FF aren't at risk of everything My kiddo's are rarely sick (we went the entire last winter with no illnesses - woot) and are smart