This reminds me of a song I was taught when I was really little.JOY = Jesus, Others, Yourself.
I never heard that ditty, but it certainly sums up the teaching quite well.This reminds me of a song I was taught when I was really little.
Jesus and others and you.
What a wonderful way to spell Joy... (now I will be humming it all day)
J is for Jesus for He has first place
O is for others you meet face to face
Y is for you in whatever you do, put yourself third and spell JOY!
Rick, I am concerned you do not grasp the importance of an acronym I learned in sunday school - about age 5: JOY = Jesus, Others, Yourself. The needs and wishes of the others in our lives always come ahead of our own needs and wishes.
Show me chapter and verse on that one.I compare it to inappropriate content because it is a sin that damages the marriage bed just as much. A
When the Believer doesn't understand how the "Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus operates (Romans 8:2)," they enter back into the "Law of sin and death;" The snare of the Devil - a captive of Satan (2 Timothy 2:24-26).NO am sorry but no one body belongs to another person how do you know she hasnt been abused in her past saying things like this
is dangerous its saying that rape is ok ITS NOT OK TO RAPE SOMEONE NO MATTER IF THERE IN A RELATIONSHIP OR NOT THERE BODYS ISNT LIKE A THING THAT CAN BE TAKEN THERE BODY IS THERES AND ITS SHOULD RESPECTED if she cant have sex SHE CANT HAVE SEX dont force her to have sex if she been abused she maybe been having flashbacks she needs help and love
Show me chapter and verse on that one.
DZoolander is right. Dave-W's college congregation is not the model we should follow. Full sexual disclosure should occur during pre-marital counseling. Any trauma or sexual dysfunction should be fully vetted and known by both spouses before entering into the one flesh relationship. Each spouse should be able to determine if they are willing to make the sacrifices that are necessary to bring the sexually dysfunctional spouse to full sexual health.
As a man, I am supposed to be able to take anything without negative response.
LOL!!! I have had many email conversations with both Paul and Lori Byerly. My wife may have even had a phone conversation with Lori at one point. (or maybe that was Joyce Penner; too long ago to remember clearly)I am done arguing this with you so I invite you to respond to Paul Byerly of Generous Husband
Learned this young too. Nowadays it's memememememememememeeeeeeeeee!Rick, I am concerned you do not grasp the importance of an acronym I learned in sunday school - about age 5: JOY = Jesus, Others, Yourself. The needs and wishes of the others in our lives always come ahead of our own needs and wishes.
Sorry Alongtime, I don't get it. You say there's no sex, but also, "Yes on occasion she will take care of me but it has to be a certain way and only at night." Is her taking care of you not sex?hello. I am here to share my story. I know we need counseling but that does not seem to be on my wife’s radar right now. Yes we have talked about this but nothing is getting done. I am working on myself it’s all I have left. So I have been married for 15 years and we dated for a year. We have NOT consummated the marriage yet. I have a very high drive and I am at my wits end. Yes on occasion she will take care of me but it has to be a certain way and only at night. I have lived with this for so long I have become numb bitter angry and that is not me. I have always been a very happy person but my limit is maxed out. I just wanted people to know that you are not alone and if you think a couple of years is tuff then you are just getting started to understanding my pain. I feel trapped, hopeless and alone. I know I’m not as I read many others accounts of sexless marriages. My situation is unique in that we have never had sex. Please pray for me as this new year begins that something changes in my heart or hers and I can start to feel normal again. I know God has used this marriage to help many people along the way, I am now the one looking for help.
My wife has had trams in her life and I feel for her in that, but how long is long enough before making things better.
Ask any questions. Here I am an open book.
Sexually refusing spouses (wives or husbands) need to stop sinning
Stop making excuses for sin. Stop the double standard. There may be a legal secular right to refuse sex in marriage but it is not a moral biblical right. You are soft on this sin because you have spent so many years rationalizing it.
I am prepared to argue, however, that [sexual refusal] is a grievous sin to God
Holding wives accountable is not fashionable because of our feminist era. The church does have a hard time with the idea as opposed to accountability for husbands.
Since the marriage is unconsummated, you are saying there was a pattern of abuse BEFORE the wedding?You going first to change the pattern of abuse in your marriage will be a warm and loving invitation for her to follow suit.
Which specific vow is she NOT taking seriously?His wife obviously doesn't...
The best sex is always that coerced by the business end of the Bible, right?
In your other post you feel entitled to berate your wife by continuing to fight with her after she asks you to stop. She'll ask you to stop after 5 minutes but, according to your cultural experiences, you explained that 2 to 3 hours is your expectation.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?