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Another Obama Scandal!!!!

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They actually used to separate the men and women in the military. But now, a guy sitting in a fox hole, knowing that someone could throw in a grenade in there any second and blow him up, he's probably gonna try his chances with the girl who's in there with her, by choice or force.

Not saying it's right, but that's what happens when you put men and women to fight together... You know, they used to segregate the men and women back in the old days, but I guess back then, they were all neanderthals, and now, we're all sooo enlightened huh?

This is the most ridiculous thing I have read in a long time. You do realize that while women haven't been serving in combat roles, they've been on the front lines?

Curious that you introduced race into the discussion then.

It was Edwin, not Morningstar. Just sayin'.
 
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Sure, they will most definitely blame this on Obama, and democrats and liberals as well. From what I have read, they believe that the military should be full of high-strung men ready to kill at a moments notice. This is what happens when you throw a lamb in the middle of a bunch of hungry lions, doncha know?


Actually I do not blame this on Obama... But I do have a comment. Anything that is blamed on Obama, is always somehow blamed on Bush doing it first. So you all will be fine either way. :)

Personally I thik both of your parties leave a lot to be desired. Your Government loves the party followers... You all continue to fight eachother while never stopping to really look UP
 
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This is the most ridiculous thing I have read in a long time. You do realize that while women haven't been serving in combat roles, they've been on the front lines?



It was Edwin, not Morningstar. Just sayin'.

Separated from the men.
 
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Curious that you introduced race into the discussion then.

Looks like someone is having trouble following the conversation...

Frankly, I can't believe the racism, attempting to involve a black man in something so disgusting as rape, a felony against women.

I don't want to believe Obama's race has anything to do with this, but I can't find where she blamed Bush in similar cases.

Which is utterly remarkable, given the near universal penchant for his followers blaming everything on Bush. But we must all admit, that Obama's color is the key reason his followers put him into office, and why they love him so (though not necessarily personally). One simply cannot argue it had anything to do with the content of his message, at least not and maintain any semblance of credibility (given he has none himself).

So that's why making his color in this scandal so important is altogether amazing - you and I know his color is utterly irrelevant to anything. For others, it's relevant to everything - so bringing it up as an issue here shows how the wheels are beginning to come off his administration - when those who chose him for his race, are now scandalized because of it.

Alinski would be so proud - - - he might even be rapping in his grave. ;)

And someone else is having trouble with his memory...

It can't be helped. Much as they try to mask its importance to them, the ideology demands it be expressed wherever possible. It's sort of a catch-22. ;)

It was you who first brought race into the discussion. :doh:
 
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Curious that you introduced race into the discussion then.

I didn't. I'm confused why Rion and Edwin did. Which is why I asked what race had to do with anything.

No, but I wish to note that the President is black/bi-racial. Are you trying to imply something about black men and rape/sexual assault by your attempt to tie him to this? That would be rather unfortunate, if that were the case, comrade.:congratm:

Which is utterly remarkable, given the near universal penchant for his followers blaming everything on Bush. But we must all admit, that Obama's color is the key reason his followers put him into office, and why they love him so (though not necessarily personally). One simply cannot argue it had anything to do with the content of his message, at least not and maintain any semblance of credibility (given he has none himself).

So that's why making his color in this scandal so important is altogether amazing - you and I know his color is utterly irrelevant to anything. For others, it's relevant to everything - so bringing it up as an issue here shows how the wheels are beginning to come off his administration - when those who chose him for his race, are now scandalized because of it.

Alinski would be so proud - - - he might even be rapping in his grave. ;)

Um...what does color have to do with this thread beyond your own assumptions that Obama was elected because he's black?
 
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I didn't. I'm confused why Rion and Edwin did. Which is why I asked what race had to do with anything.

Daisy wishes to blame this on Obama. When I complained, she accused me of derailing the thread and being sexist. I then decided to discuss it as she wished. It has as much to do with the thread as Obama.

BTW, Edwin was talking aout Obama's followers, not supporters.
 
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Daisy wishes to blame this on Obama. When I complained, she accused me of derailing the thread and being sexist. I then decided to discuss it as she wished. It has as much to do with the thread as Obama.

BTW, Edwin was talking aout Obama's followers, not supporters.

I think you're being somewhat disingenuous by saying Daisy wanted to blame Obama. I think you know full well that Daisy was commenting on the fact that it seems everything that's been happening has been getting blamed on Obama.

And to me, that's how it should be. He is the POTUS. He's the leader. It's what happens at the corporate level, too. He's not exempt from criticism because he's the president. While there's things he might not know about, it doesn't change the fact that he's sailing the ship. When the ship hits the iceberg he can't say "but no one told me it was there".
 
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I think you're being somewhat disingenuous by saying Daisy wanted to blame Obama. I think you know full well that Daisy was commenting on the fact that it seems everything that's been happening has been getting blamed on Obama.

And to me, that's how it should be. He is the POTUS. He's the leader. It's what happens at the corporate level, too. He's not exempt from criticism because he's the president. While there's things he might not know about, it doesn't change the fact that he's sailing the ship. When the ship hits the iceberg he can't say "but no one told me it was there".

Cowards never accept the blame, they only sacrifice scapegoats.
 
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I think you're being somewhat disingenuous by saying Daisy wanted to blame Obama. I think you know full well that Daisy was commenting on the fact that it seems everything that's been happening has been getting blamed on Obama.

And to me, that's how it should be. He is the POTUS. He's the leader. It's what happens at the corporate level, too. He's not exempt from criticism because he's the president. While there's things he might not know about, it doesn't change the fact that he's sailing the ship. When the ship hits the iceberg he can't say "but no one told me it was there".

Actually, she seems to be claiming that some of us want to blame Obama for this, as if he authorized it. When I called her out on this and using it for base politics, she accused me of being sexist and derailing her thread. If she didn't want that argued, she shouldn't have included it. Instead, she tried to stop the discussion by making base claims against me and saying I was derailing the thread. So, I'll take her post at face-value.
 
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Fair enough. Since at face value, Daisy is the one putting forth the argument that this is an Obama scandal, then let her defend her claim.

Sarcasm is by definition disingenuous. And sarcasm defines the very premise of Daisy's argument.
 
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Fair enough. Since at face value, Daisy is the one putting forth the argument that this is an Obama scandal, then let her defend her claim.

Sarcasm is by definition disingenuous. And sarcasm defines the very premise of Daisy's argument.

Well, as I thought about it, I realize I shouldn't have done it. :sigh:

It is difficult, however, to put up being called and inferred to be a racist or a sexist on a regular basis without wanting to snap back. Even a dog will only take abuse for so long.

That doesn't mean that what I did was right, and so I apologize, Daisy. I also forgive you the things you've said. I hope you accept my apology.
 
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So, you agree that this is another Obama scandal?

Considering they are actually prosecuting people concerning the sexual abuse, this wouldn't be an Obama scandal.

Now if they were aware of this and doing nothing to stop it and not holding people accountable, then it would be an Obama scandal.
 
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Well, as I thought about it, I realize I shouldn't have done it. :sigh:

It is difficult, however, to put up being called and inferred to be a racist or a sexist on a regular basis without wanting to snap back. Even a dog will only take abuse for so long.

That doesn't mean that what I did was right, and so I apologize, Daisy. I also forgive you the things you've said. I hope you accept my apology.

I personally have no idea how to respond to pure sarcasm, that is aimed at belittling me or my group. Sarcastic retorts are often my initial reflex, but, as in sports, so too in CF forums, it is usually the retaliation that gets penalized.

What I personally have ended up doing since my last ban is making full use of the ignore button, so that if all that a poster gives is constant sarcasm, or goading me into doing something reportable, I am not really missing much any way by not having the ability to read all that.
Apologizing for when I do step over the line would be the better reaction for sure, but I haven't yet reached the level of maturity that allows me to do that.:)
 
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Partly yes, because he is the Commander in Chief and the POTUS. It's not one I believe he created, but I believe it is a scandal that affects him.

Been quite a bit of those lately. Take any average CEO and ask yourself how long they'd have a job if this type of stuff were happening in his business.

Basically what I've learned this past week is that we either have the most ignorant president EVER or he's really good at getting people to lie for him.

Either way, not great.

If he were a CEO he'd get a bonus and Republican members of Congress would want to give him a tax cut. :wave:
tulc(Republicans: never met a CEO they didn't love except for George Soros) ;)
 
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If he were a CEO he'd get a bonus and Republican members of Congress would want to give him a tax cut. :wave:
tulc(Republicans: never met a CEO they didn't love except for George Soros) ;)
If he was a CEO the Board of Directors would have to push him out the door with his Golden Parachute and get somebody to replace him and save the company.

And then Democrats would finally recognize him as a 1 percenter
 
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If he was a CEO the Board of Directors would have to push him out the door with his Golden Parachute and get somebody to replace him and save the company.

And then Democrats would finally recognize him as a 1 percenter

They'll get a shot in 2016 to come up with someone to replace him...maybe they can find someone better then what they had in 2008 or 2012? Someone who the shareholders will like better then their last two candidates. :wave:
tulc(kind of doubts it, but knows anything can happen) :)
 
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They'll get a shot in 2016 to come up with someone to replace him...maybe they can find someone better then what they had in 2008 or 2012? Someone who the shareholders will like better then their last two candidates. :wave:
tulc(kind of doubts it, but knows anything can happen) :)
So we just have a shot at replacing him? You're suggesting he might try to stay?
 
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