Another Obama Scandal!!!!

[Rion]

I do understand bad taste. Things like this tell me you are not above the fray while inferring you are.

Providing that DaisyDay doesn't care, please, tell me how that's in bad taste.

 

[JCSr]

Providing that DaisyDay doesn't care, please, tell me how that's in bad taste.

Bad taste is determined by DaisyDay? You show bad taste, IMO with the picture in every post you make! Basically, your accusation of bad taste should be taken extremely lightly, even ignored.

 

[DaisyDay]

Consider me bizarre, but I wouldn't think to do the first thread on a subject as a humor-based one, unless I didn't take the issue all that seriously.

You could have done your own. I apologize if my style doesn't suit you.

Good derailing, though. Congrats on changing the subject to excoriate me personally.

Yes, I'm aware.

Well then.

I'm not the one who thinks rape and sexual assault is fodder for cheap political points.

Right, war, death and mayhem is proper fodder but not anything sexual.

You really shouldn't bash Obama over this.

And I didn't. You got that one right before.

 

[Rion]

2 birds 1 stone.

We know what you really want. You want Obama to admit he did it and step down from the Presidency. You are going after every scandal in the military and trying to directly pin it to Obama. Something just doesn't add up in the conspiracy! Oh, wait, yes it does! Just repeat after me: "It's always Obama's fault."

 

[Rion]

Bad taste is determined by DaisyDay? You show bad taste, IMO with the picture in every post you make! Basically, your accusation of bad taste should be taken extremely lightly, even ignored.

No, but she determines if we can discuss it in the thread. I would PM you, but you'd just get angry again.

 

[Rion]

Seeing as you've joined in with the bashing fad, do you know what people are trying to hide on this board, DaisyDay?

 

[DaisyDay]

Is it derailing to discuss the "joke" part of your post?

It is derailing to go on and on about how much you disapprove my having any "joke" part, yeah. You haven't really addressed the "joke" part except to say that you don't like it .

So, I could make suggestions that all liberals want to murder children and demand no one respond to that?

What? What would the context be? There have been a lot of petty Obama scandal threads - have there been any liberals indicating they wanted to murder children threads? I seen any.

But such threads have been made (not by you), but they weren't jokes.

Ever heard of the phrase "Rape is a special kind of evil?" Also, the two Drone cards are specifically said to not be a joking matter, but a response to a liberal who kept claiming I was a hypocrite for not making those kind of cards.

No, I haven't. Also, there was one woman officer charged with sexual assault as well.

If you want to discuss the plethora of military sexual assaults, you can. So far, you've preferred to point your finger at me for defiling the purity of the subject matter.

No, no, I'm going along with your joke now, full force.

No, no, you're not - you got the joke right the first time.

 

[Rion]

Also, please note that the perpetrators in the Lackland training base scandals are not just men and the victims are not just women. Is this sexism on your part?

No, but I wish to note that the President is black/bi-racial. Are you trying to imply something about black men and rape/sexual assault by your attempt to tie him to this? That would be rather unfortunate, if that were the case, comrade.

 

[Billnew]

IF you blamed Bush for military issues that arose during his presidency, then Obama gets blame too.

I don't believe these incidents are presidential decisions, so basically Obama trusted the Military Chief of staff to appoint the right people to appoint the right people(Continue down the Chain of command) to handle military sexual trauma reports.

1st-Even in the military, All personel are innocent until proven guilty. People instantly equate charges being filed as being guilty.

2nd- Even the commanding officers of the individual bases could not forsee someone chosen to be in charge of sexaul assault/abuse doing that exact crime. So many steps up the chain of command is even less capable of handling the problem.

Obama is Commander in Chief, so everything that happens in the military, all the way down to a newly enlisted personel urinating on a bush behind a bar, is his problem. Reasonable people will not expect the top dog to be able to eliminate every potential problem of every day life, but they should expect the Top DOg to demand a full investigation, which I believe is being done.

I believe the true intent of this thread is to add smoke to the real abuses of Obama's administration to make it look like everything is getting thrown at Obama, and we should feel sorry for him, when the other abuses need full investigations each to know who knew what and when, to ensure all criminal actions are punished, and that high ups in Obama's admin were not invovled.

Obama's problems are not a shotgun blast trying to get something to stick(like the hundreds of charges against Gnewt), but one round after another in multiple faceted abuses of power at various levels of the Executive branch.

 

[USincognito]

The thread title and Daisy being snarky aside, there's 4 news stories on this issue in the OP and it's a serious one worthy of discussion.

It raises a number of questions about sexual integration in the military including whether these revelations represent a recent epidemic or something that has been epidemic and gone unreported since the 1970s.

 

[Rion]

The thread title and Daisy being snarky aside, there's 4 news stories on this issue in the OP and it's a serious one worthy of discussion.

It raises a number of questions about sexual integration in the military including whether these revelations represent a recent epidemic or something that has been epidemic and gone unreported since the 1970s.

Indeed it is. It's unfortunate that the OP wished to focus on a witch hunt instead.

 

[SolomonVII]

Put me down as someone who doesn't see this as an Obama scandal.

 

[DaisyDay]

Male rape survivors tackle military assault in tough-guy culture - U.S. News

Amid the legislation and indignation sparked by the military's sexual abuse crisis, male rape survivors are stepping forward to remind officials that men are targeted more often than women inside a tough-guy culture that, they say, routinely deems male victims as “liars and trouble makers.”


The Pentagon estimates that last year 13,900 of the 1.2 million men on active duty endured sexual assault while 12,100 of the 203,000 women in uniform experienced the same crime — or 38 men per day versus 33 women per day. Yet the Defense Department also acknowledges “male survivors report at much lower rates than female survivors.”

See JUSTICE DENIED for a new documentary on sexual abuse in the military.

 

[DaisyDay]

Put me down as someone who doesn't see this as an Obama scandal.

Most people seem to agree with you but there are some here who claim that anything that happens within the administration is the President's fault.


Obama vows crackdown on sexual assault in military - NBC Politics

President Barack Obama on Thursday vowed a “sustained effort” to crack down on sexual assault in the military, saying that the rash of violence is “dangerous to our national security.”

 

[EdwinWillers]

Sexual assault in the military - Obama must be responsible for that, as well.

Frankly, I can't believe the racism, attempting to involve a black man in something so disgusting as rape, a felony against women.

Someone recently pointed out one of Saul Alinski's principles in Rules for Radicals (a tome of pure slime this administration worships as Scripture) was to overwhelm the minds of rational people with the utterly irrational in hopes they'll just give up and allow their tyranny to take over.

...but I digress... or... do I?

 

[MachZer0]

Sexual assault in the military - Obama must be responsible for that, as well.

We were told that allowing homosexuals to serve openly would have no impact on the services, and yet here we are with this sex scandal

 

[SolomonVII]

The old adage of if it aint broke, don't fix it applies here. The American military wasn't broke. Fixing it, fixed nothing.

 

[I Eat Pie]

They actually used to separate the men and women in the military. But now, a guy sitting in a fox hole, knowing that someone could throw in a grenade in there any second and blow him up, he's probably gonna try his chances with the girl who's in there with her, by choice or force.

Not saying it's right, but that's what happens when you put men and women to fight together... You know, they used to segregate the men and women back in the old days, but I guess back then, they were all neanderthals, and now, we're all sooo enlightened huh?

 

[USincognito]

They actually used to separate the men and women in the military. But now, a guy sitting in a fox hole, knowing that someone could throw in a grenade in there any second and blow him up, he's probably gonna try his chances with the girl who's in there with her, by choice or force.

Not saying it's right, but that's what happens when you put men and women to fight together... You know, they used to segregate the men and women back in the old days, but I guess back then, they were all neanderthals, and now, we're all sooo enlightened huh?

Please, please please share this opinion with your recruiter before... no wait, hold off and share it with your Drill Sergeants when you get to Basic.

 

[I Eat Pie]

Na, not worth getting kicked out.