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Another look at the moon landing.

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I can't help if godly Christians choose to tell fairy tales can I ?
But what give you the right to judge your fellow Christians and say that when one of them in the course of giving his testimony, describes going to the moon, he is "choosing to tell fairy-tales?"
 
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But what give you the right to judge your fellow Christians and say that when one of them in the course of giving his testimony, describes going to the moon, he is "choosing to tell fairy-tales?"

A belief that man has never been to the moon, prove to me otherwise if you can.
 
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“We destroyed the technology to go to the moon”….what? That’s what I heard a NASA guy say. Oh well that makes sense then, not. The most amazing thing humans have ever done and we destroyed the technology so we can never do it again. I call BS. That statement makes me thing that we never went. Why would we destroy the tech? We’ve been lied to.
 
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A belief that man has never been to the moon, prove to me otherwise if you can.
Well, seeing that you accuse a Christian who says he has been to the moon of telling fairy-tales, I am not at all sure how I could prove such a thing in a way that would satisfy you. If a fellow Christian says in the course of his testimony that he has been to the moon, and you refuse to accept his testimony, what sort of proof are you asking me, someone who has never claimed to have been in a spaceship, to give?
 
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I can't help if godly Christians choose to tell fairy tales can I ?
A "fairy tale" which gave you goosebumps, of which you said that you "honestly believed every word" and which had such an impact on you that you said that "flat earth was a load of nonsense" and wrote a prayer on a public forum telling God that you were sorry for doubting.

It didn't last long, but for a few days that "fairy tale" changed your life. You were going to stop believing in a flat earth - it wouldn't be easy, but you were going to ask for God's help and strength. You even wrote that you had doubts about Dean Odel and weren't going to listen to him.
I can't think of anyone who's been as changed by a "fairy tale" as you once were.

It's sad that you're now brushing all that under the carpet.
You don't believe these Christian astronauts; you're just trying to avoid calling them "liars" and softening the blow a little.
The chart of 200 verses that "proved" a flat earth was produced by a man who was a "true Christian". You believe him - even though the verses don't show what you think they show. But a Christian who testifies to something that you don't want to believe in, is "telling fairy tales."

What a sad witness.
 
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A belief that man has never been to the moon, prove to me otherwise if you can.
Why should we - even though these long threads continue because evidence is provided and you argue with it.
You once believed it - now you no longer want to believe it. Whatever proof has been given to you, you dismiss as "fake", the scientists as "untrustworthy" and everyone who disagrees with you as "having been deceived."
 
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Not without good reason too...........
Yes, without good reason.

You don't trust scientists, astronomers, astronauts or anyone who, you say, is trying to deceive us - even if they're Christians.
Because of this, you won't Google anything or read scientific articles because "they" are telling lies and trying to fool you.

But you expect us to watch your YouTube clips - which half the time you get wrong because you haven't watched them before posting them as "proof".
Regarding the last clip - which I haven't watched; whatever they're trying to fake in a swimming pool, that does not mean that no astronauts have ever been to the moon.
 
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Regarding the last clip - which I haven't watched; whatever they're trying to fake in a swimming pool, that does not mean that no astronauts have ever been to the moon.

I've tried reading the official stories of the moon landings but I find it impossible to believe them, I don't know why, something just clicks in my head, it's saying 'no no no impossible, it's just a load of garbage that they want you to believe for sinister reasons'.
I wish I could be like you & believe, but I just can't.

I will pray once again for God's guidance on this matter.:praying:
 
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I don't know if this vid is real or not and I can't prove it either way , but it's promoted by this man Pascal Najadi who is involved in Donald Trumps space force , speaks highly of Mike Flynn and just recently did an interview with Lt Colonel Riccardo Bosi , so I take him to be the real deal.

Now the vid shows a number of things , it shows the astronauts along with the camera crew filming what is supposed to be the moon landing among other things , but obviously doing it here from earth. Lights falling and other crazy stuff.

See what you think guys , because I don't normally get into this type of stuff , it always seemed too unreal for me. But I have always had an open mind...:)


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I've tried reading the official stories of the moon landings but I find it impossible to believe them, I don't know why, something just clicks in my head, it's saying 'no no no impossible, it's just a load of garbage that they want you to believe for sinister reasons'.
I wish I could be like you & believe, but I just can't.
The moon landings are not a matter of belief, but of fact.

i. Over the years, 12 astronauts have walked on the moon - several more, from different countries, have flown to it, or round it.
That is a matter of history - their names, and the information and details, is out there. Millions of people saw the moon landing on tv in 1969. If you don't believe all the scientific records, testimonies, accounts from families, accounts from engineers who worked on the rockets (and you once quoted from a book by one of them); what evidence have you got for saying that they are ALL lying/colluding with each other? And I don't mean YouTube clips which, quite frankly, anyone could make - I mean real evidence?
ii. You CAN believe it. You did so a few months ago after you heard a Christian testimony that changed your life. Sadly, you allowed YouTube to change it back again.
iii. Saying "they want you to believe it for sinister reasons" is nonsense and the stuff of the conspiracy theories that you are addicted to.
iv. I suppose God could guide you on this matter, but it's nothing to do with the Bible, faith or salvation and, quite frankly, I don't think God really minds what you think about it. Except when it comes to you opposing and calling his children "liars". Before all the "fairy tale" stuff, you were denouncing them as "deluded Freemasons". He cares about that.
Don't forget that you have already mistaken YouTube for God.
 
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The moon landings are not a matter of belief, but of fact.

i. Over the years, 12 astronauts have walked on the moon - several more, from different countries, have flown to it, or round it.
That is a matter of history - their names, and the information and details, is out there. Millions of people saw the moon landing on tv in 1969. If you don't believe all the scientific records, testimonies, accounts from families, accounts from engineers who worked on the rockets (and you once quoted from a book by one of them); what evidence have you got for saying that they are ALL lying/colluding with each other? And I don't mean YouTube clips which, quite frankly, anyone could make - I mean real evidence?
ii. You CAN believe it. You did so a few months ago after you heard a Christian testimony that changed your life. Sadly, you allowed YouTube to change it back again.
iii. Saying "they want you to believe it for sinister reasons" is nonsense and the stuff of the conspiracy theories that you are addicted to.
iv. I suppose God could guide you on this matter, but it's nothing to do with the Bible, faith or salvation and, quite frankly, I don't think God really minds what you think about it. Except when it comes to you opposing and calling his children "liars". Before all the "fairy tale" stuff, you were denouncing them as "deluded Freemasons". He cares about that.
Don't forget that you have already mistaken YouTube for God.

I Truly Thank God - He has just answered all my questions that I have just asked him via your post which I have just read, praise be to the Lord. :praying:
I now know the truth - Man has never walked on the moon.
 
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I Truly Thank God - He has just answered all my questions that I have just asked him via your post, praise be to the Lord. :praying:
I now know the truth - Man has never walked on the moon.
You don't know the truth.
You did a few months ago - but you went back on it.
 
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I do but you don't.
No, you don't.

If you say that man has never walked on the moon, then you are saying that Charles Duke is a liar.
That when he said, "the walk on the moon lasted 3 days; the walk with Jesus lasts forever", that is false.
That when he gives talks to non Christians - who probably only go to see him because he was an astronaut - and he tells them, "the walk on the moon didn't change my life; the walk with Jesus has changed my life"; that is a false testimony.
That when Neil Armstrong read from Genesis 1, so that millions of people heard God's word being read from the moon - that that is false.
That if anyone at all became a Christian after listening to Charles, or hearing the Bible read from the moon, they weren't really converted. Or if they were, God used a lie to teach them the truth; he tricked them into accepting Jesus.

You once believed every word of Charles' testimony - now you are accusing a child of God and fellow Christian of lies. Don't try and sugar coat it with this "fairy tales" stuff - you don't believe he is telling the truth; end of.
Charles Dukes testimony IS amazing - like I said, you've even said so yourself. And if I were a non Christian and didn't believe what he said about the moon, I wouldn't believe him about Jesus either.
Praise God for Charles' amazing Christian witness.
 
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Bill Kaysing & co - Why we never went to the moon.
Answer the question.
Are you now saying that Charles Duke - whose testimony you once wholeheartedly believed - is a liar?
"Fairy story teller" is the same thing.
 
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“We destroyed the technology to go to the moon”….what? That’s what I heard a NASA guy say.
I would need to hear the context in which you claim that statement was made, and also the role that person plays in NASA.
Sending astronauts to the moon was an incredibly expensive venture, not to mention extremely dangerous, and once the USA had achieved that aim, there was really no compelling reason to continue sending missions. There are no valuable minerals on the moon and even if there were, there is no economically viable way of mining them and returning them to earth, so the USA stopped sending manned missions to the moon. This meant that missions no longer needed all the complex heavy equipment to comfortably transport live humans with everything necessary to keep them alive for weeks, so they no longer needed to build the massive, multi stage rockets needed for all that extra weight. As engineers moved on to other areas or simply retired, the knowledge base necessary for that technology was slowly lost. It's one thing to have the blueprints for building a Saturn-V rocket, but it's another thing entirely to have the people with the knowledge and experience to be able to understand those blueprints and make it work.
 
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Bill Kaysing & co - Why we never went to the moon.

Bill Kaysing lies about his involvement with NASA. He is not a credible witness.
 
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