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Another look at the moon landing.

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Third, how tyres behave in a vacuum is to do with air pressure differential between inside and outside the tyres. There is no air pressure outside being a vacuum and the tyres only have a very small amount of air in them.

A video demonstrating this is here:

Thank you for explaining this but do you honestly believe that they launched a car into space & walked on the moon ?
 
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This is a genuine question 'what about the Tesla car tyres' ?
The entire vehicle was carefully prepared to prevent anything happening. The tyres weren't just deflated, they had holes drilled to allow any air inside to escape as the rocket gained altitude.
 
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The entire vehicle was carefully prepared to prevent anything happening. The tyres weren't just deflated, they had holes drilled to allow any air inside to escape as the rocket gained altitude.

And you know this because ?
 
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And you know this because ?
I don't know what prodomos's source was, but I did a Google search for Tesla in space tires (spelling it the American way), and the first entry which came up said:

"To prevent tire explosions in space, the tires of Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster were deflated before launch, minimizing the risk of compressed gas explosions in the vacuum of space.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

  • The Problem:
    In the vacuum of space, there's no atmospheric pressure to counter the pressure inside the tires. If the tires were left inflated, the pressure differential could cause them to explode.
  • The Solution:
    To mitigate this risk, the valve cores (which hold the air in the tire) were removed, allowing the tires to deflate and equalize with the surrounding space.
  • Why it matters:
    A tire explosion on a spacecraft could cause debris, damage the rocket, or even affect the trajectory, which are all undesirable outcomes.
  • Other preparations:
    The Tesla was rigidly mounted to the payload adapter, so the tires didn't have to support any weight. Additionally, the main battery was removed from the car before launch, as there was a high chance of it exploding during the launch."
 
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  • The Problem:
    In the vacuum of space, there's no atmospheric pressure to counter the pressure inside the tires. If the tires were left inflated, the pressure differential could cause them to explode.
  • The Solution:
    To mitigate this risk, the valve cores (which hold the air in the tire) were removed, allowing the tires to deflate and equalize with the surrounding space.
  • Why it matters:
    A tire explosion on a spacecraft could cause debris, damage the rocket, or even affect the trajectory, which are all undesirable outcomes.
  • Other preparations:
    The Tesla was rigidly mounted to the payload adapter, so the tires didn't have to support any weight. Additionally, the main battery was removed from the car before launch, as there was a high chance of it exploding during the launch."

The problem is that this never happened b/c as you must know by now Musk is a deceiver.

He is the richest man in th world, what does this tell you ?
 
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The problem is that this never happened b/c as you must know by now Musk is a deceiver.

He is the richest man in th world, what does this tell you ?
I don't know much about him beyond his name, so I don't know how deceptive he is, but the event must have involved many more people, and reported by many more. They would all have to be deceivers, not just Musk, if it did not happen. Certainly being rich does not automatically make one deceptive, although riches themselves are described as "deceitful" by the Saviour:

“"Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful.” (Mt 13:22 NKJV)

However, we read of rich Christians in the New Testament, too, who were not deceived by their riches - Lydia, Joseph of Arimathea, and others. So just knowing that Musk is the richest man in the world does not necessarily mean he must be a deceiver.
 
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We don't just debunk the moon landings we try to prove that it never happened
You can't prove that something didn't happen.

A few months ago you told God you were sorry for doubting the moon landings.
 
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However, we read of rich Christians in the New Testament, too, who were not deceived by their riches - Lydia, Joseph of Arimathea, and others. So just knowing that Musk is the richest man in the world does not necessarily mean he must be a deceiver.

Trust me he is, watch this space ( no pun intended ).
 
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Still one of my favorite quotes.
“Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience.

“Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although “they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion [1 Timothy 1.7].” (The Literal Meaning of Genesis, Book 1 Chapter 19 Paragraph 39)[/quote[
 
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Trust me he is, watch this space ( no pun intended ).
Well, you may be right - as I said, I don't know him, or even much about him. But I say again, he didn't get the Tesla into space by himself. All the others involved in the event, as well as all involved in reporting it, must, in your view, be deceivers too. How can you know that?
 
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Trust me he is, watch this space ( no pun intended ).
Trusting a conspiracy theorist on anything is a recipe for being misled and believing wrong information. As I’ve said before, all arguments against the moon landings being true have been debunked many times.
 
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The problem is that this never happened b/c as you must know by now Musk is a deceiver.
Saying he is a deceiver does not make it so. That’s just an allegation without proof. And claiming a Tesla was never launched into orbit because Musk is a deceiver just adds another allegation on top of an allegation.
He is the richest man in th world, what does this tell you ?
Nothing, apart from the fact that he’s the richest man in the world. I don’t begrudge anyone their wealth, nor do I claim they are a deceiver because of it. One does not follow the other. What right as anyone to claim such a thing?

All we can say as Christians is that a person’s wealth won’t save them, neither will it have any bearing on their status in heaven. We leave it all behind. For that reason it is best to do as Jesus says and store up our riches in heaven by trusting in Him.
 
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Well, you may be right - as I said, I don't know him, or even much about him. But I say again, he didn't get the Tesla into space by himself. All the others involved in the event, as well as all involved in reporting it, must, in your view, be deceivers too. How can you know that?


Utter plain stupidness.
 
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Utter plain stupidness.
Sounds more intelligent than many of your posts…really!

And don’t forget, Musk has Asperger’s Syndrome, which means he has difficulty in engaging with people in conversation and interviews. If you ever watch him, you’ll see evidence of this many times.
 
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And don’t forget, Musk has Asperger’s Syndrome, which means he has difficulty in engaging with people in conversation and interviews. If you ever watch him, you’ll see evidence of this many times.

Arr this is sad, I didn't realize this.
 
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Arr this is sad, I didn't realize this.
Well I don’t think he’d be as successful as he is without it because the upside is he’s very focused & driven to succeed.

But it does mean he can’t read people very well or pick up on how he should respond to questions. It can also mean not being able to empathise with people.

Anyway I can’t accuse him of being a deceiver based on the way he responds to questions or how he seems during speeches or based on his wealth.
 
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Anyway I can’t accuse him of being a deceiver based on the way he responds to questions or how he seems during speeches or based on his wealth.

IMO Musk is a deceiver based on his Space fairy tales & Neuralink, lets see what he intends to do with this technology.
 
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