Another look at the moon landing.

[Apple Sky]

And yet you can't produce verses which say "then God created a protective layer of the firmament" and "then God created a flat earth".
The best you can do is to say "The Bible points to it" and "what else could it be?"

Exactly.

People have investigated and found the claim of flat earth to be false.
You won't accept it.

Never.

There were thousands of witnesses to the moon landings - plus the 12 astronauts themselves.
Why should we believe your one "witness" when you dismiss thousands of witnesses?

As there wearn't thousand of witnesses.

No - "I refuse to accept that anyone has been to the moon because it would destroy my belief in a flat earth".
That is the correct statement.

Not true.

 

[Strong in Him]

Exactly.

So I say, "you can't show me the verse which says "God created the protective layer of the firmament," all you can say is "what else could it be?"
You agree with me, by saying "exactly". And then you expect me to believe your statement that the Bible proves everything?

Never.

But that's just it, isn't it? That's the end of the argument.
You won't check out evidence for a globe earth, you won't do things that people have suggested and you won't even begin to consider that the photographs might be genuine. Not because you are so clever that you know more than the astronomers, astronauts, scientists and think such an argument is beneath you - but because you have decided that nothing will ever make you accept a globe earth

So there is really no point you entering debates like this. You don't do so with an open mind; you have already decided.

As there wearn't thousand of witnesses.

No, you're right - it was millions.
The 1969 moon landing was broadcast all over the world. The NY times reported that 600million people watched on tv.
No, don't just post a laughing emoji; check it out.

Not true.

Of course it is.
You have just said that you will never accept a globe earth. If the evidence all confirmed a globe earth, you would have to accept it.
Photographs taken from space show the shape of the earth - you won't accept them.
Photographic evidence shows men landing on the moon - you won't accept it.
Men have testified that they walked on the moon - you have dismissed them as lying Freemasons.
The Bible does not say "God created a protective layer of the firmament" - you won't accept it.

 

[Apple Sky]

The 1969 moon landing was broadcast all over the world. The NY times reported that 600million people watched on tv.

That's 600 million deceived.

 

[Apple Sky]

Peter Leithart continues his biblical theology of the firmament by showing how it is a barrier between God's highest heaven and the earthly realm.

 

[trophy33]

Peter Leithart continues his biblical theology of the firmament by showing how it is a barrier between God's highest heaven and the earthly realm.

The flat earth is not uniquely biblical.

The flat Earth enclosed by a solid firmament or dome was a common cosmological model among ancient Near Eastern (Egypt, Babylonia), Greek, Chinese, and some Muslim civilizations before the spherical Earth model became widely accepted.

Also, which is a significant error of yours, the firmament is not theology. It was a primitive, ancient hypothesis, a try to explain how cosmic objects keep staying up without falling. Its neither an article of faith nor a part of any Christian creed. For example, the New Testament does not mention it at all.

 

[Apple Sky]

The flat earth is not uniquely biblical.

The flat Earth enclosed by a solid firmament or dome was a common cosmological model among ancient Near Eastern (Egypt, Babylonia), Greek, Chinese, and some Muslim civilizations before the spherical Earth model became widely accepted.

Also, which is a significant error of yours, the firmament is not theology. It was a primitive, ancient hypothesis, a try to explain how cosmic objects keep staying up without falling. Its neither an article of faith nor a part of a Christian creed.

Peter Leithart is not on about flat earth, he is talking about the firmament.

 

[trophy33]

Peter Leithart is not on about flat earth, he is talking about the firmament.

How does the firmament work without the flat earth cosmology?

 

[Strong in Him]

That's 600 million deceived.

600 million witnesses.

 

[Apple Sky]

600 million witnesses.

Who still only saw it on TV & I would imagine half of them don't believe it by now.

 

[Strong in Him]

Who still only saw it on TV & I would imagine half of them don't believe it by now.

I doubt that.

So now you are saying the BBC - who were showing it live - were all deluded as well.

Funny how everyone else is deceived except you.

 

[Apple Sky]

So now you are saying the BBC - who were showing it live - were all deluded as well.

Half the world was taken in by this event, even myself as a kid, but I grew up & awakened to this ridiculousness.

 

[MForbes]

Why are you folks wasting your time with Apple Sky? Those are minutes of your life you'll never get back. Find something to do that will actually matter.

 

[Strong in Him]

Why are you folks wasting your time with Apple Sky? Those are minutes of your life you'll never get back. Find something to do that will actually matter.

None of us can get any minutes of our life back.
But yes, good call.

 

[MForbes]

None of us can get any minutes of our life back.

Of course not....it's a figure of speech......but you'll wish you could get some back after realizing how much time you're wasting trying to get Apple Sky to understand anything of substance.

 

[Apple Sky]

Why are you folks wasting your time with Apple Sky? Those are minutes of your life you'll never get back. Find something to do that will actually matter.

I agree - They could all be looking into the truth about Genesis 1-6. This matters, as without believing first in Gen 1-6 will render the whole Bible to be just a fairy tale.

 

[trophy33]

without believing first in Gen 1-6 will render the whole Bible to be just a fairy tale.

Bible is neither a dominoes chain nor a house of cards. Its a library of quite independent books with various authors, genres, styles and purposes.

If Genesis 1-6 chapters are not a literal history, it does not destroy every other sentence everywhere in the whole Bible. It does not even destroy Genesis 1-6.

 

[Apple Sky]

Bible is neither a dominoes chain nor a house of cards. Its a library of quite independent books with various authors, genres, styles and purposes.

If Genesis 1-6 are not a literal history, it does not destroy every other sentence everywhere in the whole Bible. It does not even destroy Genesis 1-6.

If you or others don't believe Gen 1-6 is true then I'm afraid there's no hope for you.

 

[trophy33]

If you or others don't believe Gen 1-6 is true then I'm afraid there's no hope for you.

Meaning?

 

[Apple Sky]

Meaning?

How can you not believe that Gen 1-6 is not true but believe that the rest of the Bible is true ?

 

[trophy33]

How can you not believe that Gen 1-6 is not true but believe that the rest of the Bible is true ?

You are using the word "true" too vaguely. Not literal does not equal not true. For example a proverb or a poem or a prophecy is frequently not literal, but it does not mean its false or a lie or anything like that.

And again, Bible is a library of various writings with various styles, genres, authors and purposes. One place can be literal, another place does not have to be. One place can be accurate, another place can be inaccurate. One place can be a mistake or an error, another place can be correct.