Another jesus. Another gospel.

[Maria Billingsley]

Harassing you? Stop it hurts? If an untruth was shared show it.

Otherwise, Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrow to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.


I guess this is where you report the post and what is meant for good gets deleted or the thread gets shut down. So be it.

No I will never report. I know things can get heated and emotional at times. Let's just keep the peace. Blessings.

 

[HIM]

No I will never report. I know things can get heated and emotional at times. Let's just keep the peace. Blessings.

Keep the peace?

Emotional?

So you say one is not keeping the peace and is emotional when truth is stated?

The spirit says that one is trying to keep the peace and is being compassionate and merciful through Him when truth is shared regardless how the recipient of said truth is feeling:

It seems that people here just want to share what they think in rebuttal to what others share and not discuss. In this most will not grow beyond where they are at

 

[Freth]

We are no longer under the bondage of the law.

Bondage of the Law

What did God say before giving the law on Mt. Sinai?

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Exodus 20:1-2 And God spake all these words, saying, I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.​

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God had just freed Israel from bondage in Egypt. If the law is bondage, then God would be putting them right back into bondage again, which makes no sense to me.

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Paul concerning the law and servitude.

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.​

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Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.​

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What Paul is stating is of your own free will. Willful obedience unto righteousness. Freedom from sin. There is no more bondage.

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Jesus concerning the law (sin is transgression of the law), freedom and the truth.

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John 8:31-36 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.​

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Freedom is not bondage.

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Jesus promised rest.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.​

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Strong's G373 rest (anapauō):​

• to cause or permit one to cease from any movement or labour in order to recover and collect his strength.
• to give rest, refresh, to give one's self rest, take rest
• to keep quiet, of calm and patient expectation

What rest?

• Jesus called Himself Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:27-28). He didn't call Himself the Sabbath, but Lord of the Sabbath.
• His custom was to observe the Sabbath (Luke 4:16) and He taught Sabbath observance by word and example.
• He prophesied Sabbath observance in the end time (Matthew 24:20). Why mention the Sabbath at all if it were not meant to be observed?
• Jesus instituted the Sabbath day rest at creation with intent and purpose (Genesis 2:1-3). It is a sign and a perpetual covenant (Exodus 31:13-16).

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Conclusions:

• If you are set free you are not in bondage. The law then cannot be bondage.
• The Sabbath rest is not Jesus. He pointed to the Sabbath day in word and in action, not to Himself as a Sabbath rest.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Galatians 5

Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. 2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. 4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love. 7 You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8 This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. 9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump. 10 I have confidence in you, in the Lord, that you will have no other mind; but he who troubles you shall bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11 And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased. 12 I could wish that those who trouble you would even cut themselves off!

13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." 15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

Galatians 5

Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. 2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. 4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love. 7 You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8 This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. 9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump. 10 I have confidence in you, in the Lord, that you will have no other mind; but he who troubles you shall bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11 And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased. 12 I could wish that those who trouble you would even cut themselves off!

13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." 15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

Maria, i will explain to you why you do not understand the quoted scripture, what Paul means by bondage. Paul means to be free from breaking the law or commandments since Jesus paid the price of sin for all of us by his sacrifice, it does not mean that we are free to do what we want, but like Jesus says, if you love me keep my commandments, instead of following Paul that you do not yet understand like many today, please follow the Messiah´s guidance and do what he asks, in essence God want us to be Holy as he is Holy, let the spirit of truth, also called the comforter guide you, not preachers taking you away from God. If you disagree with this, i will quote scripture that proves what i say.

to answer another question, i was raised in quebec, french speaking so went to catholic school, however i do not practice this faith, i am truly non denominational and unfortunately do not go to any church at the moment. mainly i follow the teachings of Jesus.

peace

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Maria, i will explain to you why you do not understand the quoted scripture, what Paul means by bondage. Paul means to be free from breaking the law or commandments since Jesus paid the price of sin for all of us by his sacrifice, it does not mean that we are free to do what we want, but like Jesus says, if you love me keep my commandments, instead of following Paul that you do not yet understand like many today, please follow the Messiah´s guidance and do what he asks, in essence God want us to be Holy as he is Holy, let the spirit of truth, also called the comforter guide you, not preachers taking you away from God. If you disagree with this, i will quote scripture that proves what i say.

to answer another question, i was raised in quebec, french speaking so went to catholic school, however i do not practice this faith, i am truly non denominational and unfortunately do not go to any church at the moment. mainly i follow the teachings of Jesus.

peace

Thanks for sharing however, I never said we can do what ever we want. His Holy Spirit guilds us in all truth and conviction.
Be blessed.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Thanks for sharing!

Maria do not forget 2 Peter 3 that says paul is DIFFICULT to understand.

peace

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Sorry friend Paul through God is referring to all the Law, including the Ten.


If the Law is in our hearts and minds and we are changed, then the written Law in the Book of the Law which has the Ten in it is not our tutor anymore bercause that which was within it is within us. This is how Galatians must be understood. Paul is clear in chapter three when he through God speaks of the Law being our schoolmaster and in that He mentions the Book of the Law OUTRIGHT in respect to this (see verse 10). And that it was only to brings us unto Christ. For we whom have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ and now therefore live by the Faith of the Son of God who gave Himself for us. Through Him the word is in our hearts and mouths. This the faith in which we preach and that we the just live by and establishes the Law that was written in the Book.

The commandments were never put in question, sabbath blessing is right, they were duscussing items from the law of moses, i will prepare a thread and post it.

peace.

 

[HIM]

The commandments were never put in question, sabbath blessing is right, they were duscussing items from the law of moses, i will prepare a thread and post it.

peace.

Reconsider the post and all that it shares

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Sorry friend Paul through God is referring to all the Law, including the Ten.


If the Law is in our hearts and minds and we are changed, then the written Law in the Book of the Law which has the Ten in it is not our tutor anymore bercause that which was within it is within us. This is how Galatians must be understood. Paul is clear in chapter three when he through God speaks of the Law being our schoolmaster and in that He mentions the Book of the Law OUTRIGHT in respect to this (see verse 10). And that it was only to brings us unto Christ. For we whom have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ and now therefore live by the Faith of the Son of God who gave Himself for us. Through Him the word is in our hearts and mouths. This the faith in which we preach and that we the just live by and establishes the Law that was written in the Book.

Law is a generic term, there are lots of laws in scripture and the context will tell us which law is being referred to and Paul states the law he is referring explicitly....

Lets take a look

The Jews were trying to make the Gentile convert be circumcised in order to receive the gospel and to be saved. This is the law Paul is referring to as it clearly states. There is no law of circumcision in the Ten Commandments found in Exodus 20

Gal 2: 3 Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. 4 And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), 5 to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

6 But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God [b]shows personal favoritism to no man—for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me. 7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter 8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles), 9 and when James, [c]Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do.

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11 Now when [d]Peter had come to Antioch, I [e]withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; 12 for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing [f]those who were of the circumcision. 13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.

14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, [g]why do you compel Gentiles to live as [h]Jews? 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 knowing that a man is not [i]justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

17 “But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not! 18 For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19 For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died [j]in vain.”

No other law is being discussed in this passage except circumcision, so best not to add what's not there.

Paul contrast these laws- circumcision with the commandments of God- so its not all the same law

1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

If the Law is in our hearts and minds and we are changed, then the written Law in the Book of the Law which has the Ten in it is not our tutor anymore bercause that which was within it is within us. This is how Galatians must be understood. Paul is clear in chapter three when he through God speaks of the Law being our schoolmaster and in that He mentions the Book of the Law OUTRIGHT in respect to this (see verse 10). And that it was only to brings us unto Christ. For we whom have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ and now therefore live by the Faith of the Son of God who gave Himself for us. Through Him the word is in our hearts and mouths. This the faith in which we preach and that we the just live by and establishes the Law that was written in the Book.

The book has the law of Moses- written by Moses, it was placed outside the ark. The Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark, written by the finger of God. They are not the same.

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

Compared to what our Heavenly Father wrote with His own finger and was placed inside the ark of the Covenant Exo 40:20

Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

God writing or a human being writing. One placed inside the ark, one placed outside by design because they are of a different foundation. While I do not believe all the law of Moses ended except what we are told in scriptures, but most of the law of Moses was sub-laws to the Ten Commandments- God's perfect law of Liberty.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Reconsider the post and all that it shares

I will post it it needs to be done so people understand what is at stake, it is important. I will use only scripture not my opinion.

Peace

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Reconsider the post and all that it shares

The Council of Jerusalem, detailed in Acts 15, was a crucial moment in early Christianity. It addressed whether Gentile believers needed to follow Jewish customs, like circumcision, to be considered part of the faith. This decision had significant implications for how Gentiles and Jews would coexist in the burgeoning Christian community.

Council Decision and Reasoning

The council's decision was clear: Gentile believers didn't need to take on Jewish customs to be saved. James summed it up by saying, "We shouldn't make it hard for the Gentiles who are turning to God" (Acts 15:19, KJV). They recognized that expecting Gentiles to follow Jewish practices like circumcision could create unnecessary barriers for them in embracing Christianity.

Specific Rules and Cultural Sensitivity

While Gentile believers were exempt from certain Jewish rituals, the council did ask them to respect some guidelines. These included avoiding meat that hadn't been properly drained of blood, meat sacrificed to idols, and sexual immorality (Acts 15:20, KJV). These rules aimed to foster unity and respect between Jewish and Gentile believers, addressing cultural sensitivities of the time.

Difference Between Rules and Moral Law

The council's decision drew a line between ceremonial rules and moral principles. They affirmed that while Gentile believers didn't need to follow Jewish ceremonial laws, they were expected to live by moral standards that reflected God's timeless truths. This included the moral teachings found in the Ten Commandments, which continued to guide Christian conduct (Romans 13:8-10, KJV).

Supporting Scriptures and New Testament Teaching

Throughout the New Testament, these moral teachings are reinforced. Paul, in his letters to the Romans, Colossians, and Ephesians, emphasizes living in love, avoiding sin, and growing in righteousness (Romans 13:8-10, KJV; Colossians 3:1-17, KJV; Ephesians 4:17-32, KJV). These teachings underscore the enduring importance of moral integrity and ethical behaviour for Christians.

Conclusion

The Council of Jerusalem marked an important moment in early Christianity by affirming that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ, not through adherence to specific cultural practices. While Gentile believers were liberated from certain Jewish customs, they were called to uphold moral teachings that transcend cultural differences. This decision helped unify the early Christian community and ensured its ethical foundation.

This decision aligns with the teachings of Jesus Himself, as reflected by the Council's decision led by James, the brother of Jesus and a prominent leader in the early church in Jerusalem. Jesus emphasized the moral essence of the commandments, instructing his followers to love God and love their neighbors (Matthew 22:37-40, KJV). He underscored that all the commandments are fulfilled through love, emphasizing the enduring significance of these moral principles in the lives of believers."

Peace

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Thanks for sharing however, I never said we can do what ever we want. His Holy Spirit guilds us in all truth and conviction.
Be blessed.

peace to you Maria.

 

[HIM]

If the Law is in our hearts and minds and we are changed, then the written Law in the Book of the Law which has the Ten in it is not our tutor anymore bercause that which was within it is within us. This is how Galatians must be understood. Paul is clear in chapter three when he through God speaks of the Law being our schoolmaster and in that He mentions the Book of the Law OUTRIGHT in respect to this (see verse 10). And that it was only to brings us unto Christ. For we whom have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ and now therefore live by the Faith of the Son of God who gave Himself for us. Through Him the word is in our hearts and mouths. This the faith in which we preach and that we the just live by and establishes the Law that was written in the Book.

I will post it it needs to be done so people understand what is at stake, it is important. I will use only scripture not my opinion.

Peace

Regardless what you post, you have to deal with the fact above and below in regard to Galatians chapter 3 verse 10



Incidentally my friend. I thank you and @SabbathBlessings for your time and effort here. It is appreciated that ya'll allow God to work through you. This topic here however is an issue.

Please note only what is shared and do not read anything into it. For faith, that which is of God through Christ establishes the Law and is the Faith in which the Just, we live by.

The book has the law of Moses- written by Moses, it was placed outside the ark. The Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark, written by the finger of God. They are not the same.

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

Compared to what our Heavenly Father wrote with His own finger and was placed inside the ark of the Covenant Exo 40:20

Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

God writing or a human being writing. One placed inside the ark, one placed outside by design because they are of a different foundation. While I do not believe all the law of Moses ended except what we are told in scriptures, but most of the law of Moses was sub-laws to the Ten Commandments- God's perfect law of Liberty.

The Ten are mentioned several times in the Book of the Law for one. And for your info. Nowhere is it stated that just the commandments are the New Covenant. It is the Law that is placed in our hearts. It is also said that the Word is placed in our hearts, as it is the Spirit. Never is it said just the commandments.


We are in Galatians BTW and it says Book of the Law in Chapter three in respect to the law being our schoolmaster and tutor. And that we are no longer under it for such because it was only to be unto Christ.

If the Law is part of us, what need is there for some Book to tell us how to live if we are living it. That is all Galatians is bringing out. If anything one should be kicking against is the fact that it is not a reality that we as a whole are dead but alive. And that Christ is living in us and we are living by the faith of Christ. This issue of what is available to us in Christ we can see being a hindrance since most are not living up to the potential and are using ourselves and those around us for the standard.

The Fact the Book of the Law is mentioned out right in Chapter three in respect to it being our schoolmaster until Christ should settle this for everyone.
The Law is for the sinner. There should be no more need for the Law for us who are in Christ. Because we live through and He through us.

 

[HIM]

The Council of Jerusalem, detailed in Acts 15, was a crucial moment in early Christianity. It addressed whether Gentile believers needed to follow Jewish customs, like circumcision, to be considered part of the faith. This decision had significant implications for how Gentiles and Jews would coexist in the burgeoning Christian community.

Council Decision and Reasoning

The council's decision was clear: Gentile believers didn't need to take on Jewish customs to be saved. James summed it up by saying, "We shouldn't make it hard for the Gentiles who are turning to God" (Acts 15:19, KJV). They recognized that expecting Gentiles to follow Jewish practices like circumcision could create unnecessary barriers for them in embracing Christianity.

Specific Rules and Cultural Sensitivity

While Gentile believers were exempt from certain Jewish rituals, the council did ask them to respect some guidelines. These included avoiding meat that hadn't been properly drained of blood, meat sacrificed to idols, and sexual immorality (Acts 15:20, KJV). These rules aimed to foster unity and respect between Jewish and Gentile believers, addressing cultural sensitivities of the time.

Difference Between Rules and Moral Law

The council's decision drew a line between ceremonial rules and moral principles. They affirmed that while Gentile believers didn't need to follow Jewish ceremonial laws, they were expected to live by moral standards that reflected God's timeless truths. This included the moral teachings found in the Ten Commandments, which continued to guide Christian conduct (Romans 13:8-10, KJV).

Supporting Scriptures and New Testament Teaching

Throughout the New Testament, these moral teachings are reinforced. Paul, in his letters to the Romans, Colossians, and Ephesians, emphasizes living in love, avoiding sin, and growing in righteousness (Romans 13:8-10, KJV; Colossians 3:1-17, KJV; Ephesians 4:17-32, KJV). These teachings underscore the enduring importance of moral integrity and ethical behaviour for Christians.

Conclusion

The Council of Jerusalem marked an important moment in early Christianity by affirming that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ, not through adherence to specific cultural practices. While Gentile believers were liberated from certain Jewish customs, they were called to uphold moral teachings that transcend cultural differences. This decision helped unify the early Christian community and ensured its ethical foundation.

This decision aligns with the teachings of Jesus Himself, as reflected by the Council's decision led by James, the brother of Jesus and a prominent leader in the early church in Jerusalem. Jesus emphasized the moral essence of the commandments, instructing his followers to love God and love their neighbors (Matthew 22:37-40, KJV). He underscored that all the commandments are fulfilled through love, emphasizing the enduring significance of these moral principles in the lives of believers."

Peace

Until you deal with the post and the facts shared, we will not even read this. Take care.

 

[Icyspark]

Before we continue, may I ask your denomination? Understanding where your viewpoint is comming from is important. I have no denominational affiliation including non- denomination.
Thanks for clarifying.

Hi Maria Billingsley,

I have no problem acknowledging my denominational affiliation. However, after consulting with counsel I have been advised that on this forum you are not allowed to speak to issues as they relate to my denomination.

If you are a Christian who accepts the authority of Scripture in your life then you should be able to answer my questions regardless of my background.

Back to the questions:

So Jews who were followers of Christ were no longer under the law even though Jesus hadn't yet died and the new covenant wasn't yet implemented?​

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What do you mean by "bondage of the law"? Most ppl believe that certain aspects of the law came to an end, but that there are now 1040 rules to obey in the new covenant. How is this set of new rules substantively less burdensome than the previous group (which contained over 400 less rules)?​

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God bless.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark

 

[SabbathBlessings]

@HIM

I appreciate the responses and you know we have a lot of common beliefs, but this is not one we share for the reasons listed below.

The Ten are mentioned several times in the Book of the Law for one.

The Book of the law was written by Moses, placed OUTSIDE the ark Deut 31:24-26. The Ten Commandments was written by the finger of God Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28 and was placed INSIDE the ark of the Covenant Exo 40:20. Moses did not write the Ten Commandments and the Ten was never placed outside the ark, they were placed inside.

And for your info. Nowhere is it stated that just the commandments are the New Covenant. It is the Law that is placed in our hearts. It is also said that the Word is placed in our hearts, as it is the Spirit. Never is it said just the commandments.

This is an argument I have never made.

We are in Galatians BTW and it says Book of the Law in Chapter three in respect to the law being our schoolmaster and tutor. And that we are no longer under it for such because it was only to be unto Christ.

I was quoting Chapter 2 which is what Gal 5 is quoting almost verbatim in regards to the law of circumcision.

If the Law is part of us, what need is there for some Book to tell us how to live if we are living it

You are the one that keeps bringing up the book, not I.

The Fact the Book of the Law is mentioned out right in Chapter three in respect to it being our schoolmaster until Christ should settle this for everyone.
The Law is for the sinner. There should be no more need for the Law for us who are in Christ. Because we live through and He through us.

The book of the law was placed outside the ark, its not the Ten Commandments

It where all the curses were Gal 3:10 (Deut 28) For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” Where does it say this anywhere in the Ten Commandments? Exodus 20

Why it the Book of the law was placed outside the ark as a witness against Deut 31:24-26 for not keeping what is inside the ark of the Covenant- the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments is God’s perfect and holy law, written by His own finger and God blesses when keeping, curse comes from violating and we see the curses written in the Book of the Law- the law of Moses as shown in Deut 28 The Ten Commandments wasn’t the law added 430 years later, its not the law that was added because of transgression, its the LAW that defines what transgression (sin) is when broken 1 John 3:4 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30

God bless and Happy Sabbath!

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Regardless what you post, you have to deal with the fact above and below in regard to Galatians chapter 3 verse 10



Incidentally my friend. I thank you and @SabbathBlessings for your time and effort here. It is appreciated that ya'll allow God to work through you. This topic here however is an issue.

Please note only what is shared and do not read anything into it. For faith, that which is of God through Christ establishes the Law and is the Faith in which the Just, we live by.

The Ten are mentioned several times in the Book of the Law for one. And for your info. Nowhere is it stated that just the commandments are the New Covenant. It is the Law that is placed in our hearts. It is also said that the Word is placed in our hearts, as it is the Spirit. Never is it said just the commandments.


We are in Galatians BTW and it says Book of the Law in Chapter three in respect to the law being our schoolmaster and tutor. And that we are no longer under it for such because it was only to be unto Christ.

If the Law is part of us, what need is there for some Book to tell us how to live if we are living it. That is all Galatians is bringing out. If anything one should be kicking against is the fact that it is not a reality that we as a whole are dead but alive. And that Christ is living in us and we are living by the faith of Christ. This issue of what is available to us in Christ we can see being a hindrance since most are not living up to the potential and are using ourselves and those around us for the standard.

The Fact the Book of the Law is mentioned out right in Chapter three in respect to it being our schoolmaster until Christ should settle this for everyone.
The Law is for the sinner. There should be no more need for the Law for us who are in Christ. Because we live through and He through us.

I will reply to you if you tell me who you follow foremost and above all, Jesus or Paul?

 

[HIM]

I was quoting Chapter 2 which is what Gal 5 is quoting almost verbatim in regards to the law of circumcision.

All is said in context to chapter 3 verse 10.

I am done. You can’t see and it ain’t fine but I won’t go and on . The context is in that verse and chapter to which law he is speaking in respect what we are not under. And it is the Book of the Law and the ten are in it just as they are on the tablets.

And as was said, it is the law that is said to be put in our hearts and in suit it says His word. Not the ten though they are included. I studied and taught what you think and teach but God has shown us it isn’t right.

Love ya and don’t expect you not to answer this but know unless you post something relevant we are done. I won’t be responsible for you to continue.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

All is said in context to chapter 3 verse 10.

I am done. You can’t see and it ain’t fine but I won’t go and on . The context is in that verse and chapter to which law he is speaking in respect what we are not under. And it is the Book of the Law and the ten are in it just as they are on the tablets.

And as was said, it is the law that is said to be put in our hearts and in suit it says His word. Not the ten though they are included. I studied and taught what you think and teach but God has shown us it isn’t right.

Love ya and don’t expect you not to answer this but know unless you post something relevant we are done. I won’t be responsible for you to continue.

Him,

There is no scripture that says the Ten Commandments were written by Moses- Moses wrote the book of the law, it states so explicitly

Deut 31:24. 24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished,

God wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger

Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

There is no scripture that says the Ten Commandments was placed outside the ark, which is where the book of the law was placed. It states so explicitly

Deut 31:26 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

The Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark

Exo 25:16 And you shall put into the ark the Testimony which I will give you.
Exo 40:20 He took the Testimony and put it into the ark, inserted the poles through the rings of the ark, and put the mercy seat on top of the ark.


I have never stated only the Ten Commandments was written in our hearts. The greatest commandments came from the law of Moses, which is the Ten Commandments summarized never went away. Rom 13:9 Only the ceremonial laws as shown through scripture ended, not God’s moral laws, the Ten Commandments and other statues, like tithing, health laws etc did not go away. I have never stated otherwise ever. I do believe God’s Ten Commandments stand on another foundation than all other laws- I mean how could they not be divinely written personally by God on stone placed inside the ark of the Covenant revealed in heaven Rev 11:19- God’s eternal law that came way before the law of Moses. I believe the Ten encompass so much more just as Jesus taught in Mat 5:19-30 and if one were even keeping the very first commandment Exo 20:3 would be obeying everything God’s asks of us.

Love ya too and hope you consider these scriptures.