ANNOUNCEMENT: New Report System Information

[snoochface]

you arent getting the report closed notices when something has been handled?

Does a "report closed" notice tell me why a post I reported is still sitting in the thread untouched?

Do you really not get this, or are you just being argumentative?

 

[No Swansong]

And yet again if the report threads are closed how are staff held accountable? The answer is there is no way. That is the question that those who support closed reports cannot answer.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Held accountable for what? ruling something no violation according to the written rules ? If the post is still there and the report is closed - its pretty self evident it was ruled no violation - of course unless its a matter where a thread was closed altogether

As far as action taken on one that is missing or editted obviously thats pretty apparant then action was taken - so why would a reporter need to know what happened on another members account as a result?

 

[No Swansong]

I don't think Ron is the tech guy, but Ron has alot on his plate, and if the members could understand that there is thousands of members, and only 3 head admins, that have access to all this, then maybe you can see what they are putting up with.

Yes it has alot to do with the coding, the codes have to be right fo rthe reports to work right. Ron, Lee, and Constance are doing the best they can, they also have a real life other then cf as well, they have jobs, and they come here and do this as well. Give them a break.

Melly this and many others sites are Lee's job. These websites are how he makes his money.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Jtb , whats wrong with that?

 

[No Swansong]

Held accountable for what? ruling something no violation according to the written rules ? If the post is still there and the report is closed - its pretty self evident it was ruled no violation - of course unless its a matter where a thread was closed altogether

As far as action taken on one that is missing or editted obviously thats pretty apparant then action was taken - so why would a reporter need to know what happened on another members account as a result?

No what I am speaking of are the many incidents of inconsistency, and unfairness in who the rules are enforced upon and who they are not. I have too many times documented that this is indeed a problem, one that is being ignored.

 

[Angel4Truth]

jtbdad thats what the RT is for - to monitor that

 

[Melbelle]

Melly this and many others sites are Lee's job. These websites are how he makes his money.

Yes, but Ron and constance have other jobs, and this isn't Lee's only Job, if I remember correctly, he has a Job he works for someone. This is a self owned thing, yes he generates money from it, but he bought it fair and square and he has the right to run it how he wants too.

 

[Melbelle]

Reports only need to be open to those reported and those who are reporters.

From my understanding (I did ask about this today) reports are going to be opened to both reporters and reportees.

 

[Floatingaxe]

From my understanding (I did ask about this today) reports are going to be opened to both reporters and reportees.

As I said, that is already occurring. My question is--why only certain fora? Is it a gradual implementation, or will I never be able to access my reports in Debates?

 

[Melbelle]

As I said, that is already occurring. My question is--why only certain fora? Is it a gradual implementation, or will I never be able to access my reports in Debates?

I think there was a mess up on the coding, or thats what I keep hearing... I am not 100% sure, I am a ministry mod so I only really know what goes on there.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I think there was a mess up on the coding, or thats what I keep hearing... I am not 100% sure, I am a ministry mod so I only really know what goes on there.

OK, thanks! At least that's an answer!

 

[Stormy]

As I said, that is already occurring. My question is--why only certain fora? Is it a gradual implementation, or will I never be able to access my reports in Debates?

I was reported in GA and can't get into my report thread. It appears from talking to the mods that they reported me and closed my thread all by themselves.

I was simply asking what the posters of GA thought of the name going back to Christian forums. I was afraid that it would make them feel less welcome than when we were Foru.ms

A mod reported my thread and another closed it. No one asked me anything and told me nothing until after the fact.

Similar threads were in forums all over CF and none of them were closed.

Apparently the only place where it is off-discussion to open a thread about the New CF is in GA.

 

[Stormy]

ERWIN!!!!!!

HI

You have no idea how much I want YOU back!!!

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I agree, and we need a way in which to do this. The first step is getting the reported member access to the report thread, so they can interact with staff. That helps one member, but doesn't help the membership as a whole. We do need a way to deseminate the finer points of rule application so all can benefit. How to do so with the constraints we are under is tricky, but it is something we are looking at.

Ron, bes there ANY viable chance that reports can be coded to allow BOTH the Reporter and the Reportee access? As much as this one does not relish the thought of the potential for slanging it out, it cannot think of any other way in which the process would be fair to all parties involved. It simply does not seem fair to the other party to be cut out of the loop. Currently those BEING reported bes cut out whilst those DOING the reporting can see. But they will be reversing that soon and then only those being reported will be able to see while the reporter will not.

 

[Stormy]

Why can't people reported in GA see their report threads?

 

[Melbelle]

ERWIN!!!!!!

HI

You have no idea how much I want YOU back!!!

I've spoken with Erwin, and he seems very relaxed where he is now I know this place was emotionaly and physicaly draining him, ontop of being a lawyer/Doctor. Plus time with family lol... OL he doesn't have so much drama lol.

 

[Melbelle]

Why can't people reported in GA see their report threads?

bug people, there is a kink in the system, I believe Lee has said this already that when his tech guy has time, he is going to fix this... Report it in the bug forum if you are concerned bout it...

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

To the best of my knowledge, we can only see the Report threads for posts we've reported. Supposedly, that's being worked on.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

what happends in the staff area is between the staff and noone else. We aren't picking out people and picking on them, and thats what this thread sounds like its doing is accussing staff.

Hey Melly, you're pretty new to staff, so maybe you bes not aware that in the past this HAS in fact been a problem, with staff operating from a bias of personal like/dislike/favoritism or else from a bias formed on the basis of their personal theological and/or political views contrasted with whatever members' reports they bes working, etc. Definitely NOT with ALL staff of course, but enough of it going on to be evident in stacked-deck outcomes. There bes evidence that some staff historically have indeed talked behind the backs of regular members and sought to sour the opinion of other staff against them by playing up their faults or whatever about them they thought bes not "Christian" or not "theologically correct" or whatever. So hon, sad as it sounds, there DOES be precedent for this. Now, this bes NOT your fault, and this one bes certain you will do your best to be a good, honorable staff member AND you need to believe likewise about all your fellow staff in order to make that work. We get that. But you need to understand there does indeed be valid cause for feeling a bit querulous and uncertain with regard to all the secrecy because we've seen the results of whatever went on behind those closed doors.