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I agree, most women are not into sexual abuse.
They're still allured by Christian Grey's dominate/sadistic qualities.
I'm not trying to argue that women want everything represented in that character.
Good point, but I think society tends to acknowledge women more than men in some ways at least. I know some people here are going to give me crap about just questioning that stuff. Pardon my strong language, but a lot of men get that kind of thing for speaking out.From a spiritual standpoint, I think pride is a big issue. Some men become offended if they are not acknowledged for their achievements or receive special treatments.
We live in a culture where many people are damaged sexually and confuse pain and pleasure with love.
I don't want this to sound rude but whenever I see a mention of "Christ, not this world" it comes off as black-and-white, and in a way it is dismissive to others.Absolutely not. Our identity needs to be grounded and rooted in Christ, not the world, people are reacting to the world in a worldly manner.
Without Christ MGTOW...so do woman. Feminists seem angry all the time as well.
Yours in the Lord,
jm
Most of the misogynistic nonsense in this thread I am just letting go because it represents the death throes of a patriarchy that is deservedly on the way out. However, this notion that woman-on-man domestic violence/abuse is on a par with man-on-woman is about as dangerous and wrong as the anti-vaxxer movement. The fact you specifically comment on it being worse for a man's self-esteem speaks volumes.
I wish the MGTOW men had the courage of their convictions and actually did remove themselves from society. I for one would be willing to chip in to buy them an island. They'll be dead in a generation with none of their genes passed on and the rest of the planet can move on.
As for MGTOW, how Christian men can proclaim "self-ownership" while confessing Christ as Lord does baffle me a bit.
Since femininity is a social construct, I'm not inclined to buy into this line of thinking much. I'd argue that each woman should seek to use her gifts and strengths, and ignore other peoples' ideas of "femininity."
White knights often operate under a hierarchy.
Yeah, and besides something like legalizing prostitution (and that will probably only help somewhat), I don't think the problem is ever going away.
Knowledge can help fade anxiety. I think men need to study up on evolutionary psychology. I am not sure why many men seem to be so clueless about what women want. Perhaps me being a sadist has given me a leg up in this regard, since many of this stuff seems intuitive for me.
We also need much better communication between men and women. Not feminism where women get all the say and men have to work inside that framework. Everyone speak their mind. Be brutally honest, no matter how politically incorrect it is.
I have difficulty believing the Lord sanctions your selfishness and supports its continuance. Giving resources without personal involvement for someone with the mindset you describe isn’t giving at all.
If you’re always first in your life and never have to be bothered and choose that reality constantly how is that alright? He doesn’t laud selfishness.
Are you sure this is God's judgment on me?
We live in a culture where many people are damaged sexually and confuse pain and pleasure with love.
If you believe He approves of your selfishness have at it.
My selfishness isn't the garden variety kind. I've given of the fat, the muscle is mine.
I’m not aware there are differing varieties. Its the same spirit. To each his own.
To you, dear lady, I apologize, and I'll do my best to be more respectful to you, a Christian sister, going forward into the future.
Who decides how much grain the ox that treads out the grain eats? Isn't it the...ox?
I appreciate the sentiment. I don’t argue on forums. Watching someone lose control and permit a stranger to get under the skin is interesting. Few discussions are worth it.
God made the ox and he is rarely his own master. The whip and owner determine his output.
I think most people are more comfortable with kinky sex than gender benders.
You're not arguing that all people who view pain and pleasure as love have been sexually abused are you?
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