Anti-Christ European Angel Gabriel revealed the origin of antichrist to Daniel

[LastSeven]

Doug, do you believe that your body is the temple of God?

 

[Revealing Times]

You were doing good until you said "This means the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME IN THE END TIMES IS THE ROMAN ANTICHRIST."

All this talk about a future anti-christ / peace treaty / temple / abomination / blah blah blah has some major issues, but perhaps the most major issue is with this statement of yours.

"He will enter the rebuilt Temple and declare himself to be God. stop the sacrifices and make it “an abomination of desolation".

It's really quite simple. Ask yourself this; If a physical temple is meaningless to God (which it obviously is since Jesus abides in us), how can anything set up in there be an "abomination" to Him?

The Anti-Christ and False Prophet set up an Image in the Temple for all to Worship. Any Image that is worshiped, is an abomination unto God. The word used for Abominations is shiqquwts 8251, meaning filthy, disgusting, idolatrous or IDOL.

Satan could place his IDOL in the Local Mall, and it would be an Abomination unto GOD.

 

[Revealing Times]

Daniel 9:26 And after sixty two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Messiah was cut off (JESUS was crucified) in 33 AD and then at 70 AD the Temple of God/Sanctuary was destroyed by the Roman.

The Roman army is called the people of the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME.

This means the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME IN THE END TIMES IS THE ROMAN ANTICHRIST.

27 And he (the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 9:26 and 27 was amazingly separated by 2000 years.

After the crucifixion of the Messiah and the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple of God, “the prince who is to come (in the end times) ” will make a covenant with the Jewish people that will enable them to reestablish the Temple of God in Jerusalem, This PRINCE will come from the same people who destroyed the Temple (the Romans).

this “prince who is to come” is the Antichrist, the “man of lawlessness” who is “the son of destruction.” his 7 years peace covenant will enable the Jews to rebuild their Temple.

Both Daniel 9 and 2 Thessalonians 2 — shows the fact that in the middle of this 7 week (3 1/2 years into it) this “prince who is to come” will betray the people. He will enter the rebuilt Temple and declare himself to be God. stop the sacrifices and make it “an abomination of desolation,”.

27 And he (the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

You are 100 percent correct brother. Except this Anti-Christ comes out of Two Kingdoms. In Daniel 7 he comes out of the Fourth Beast (Revived Rome/European Union). Then in Daniel 8 he arises out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms of Alexander the Great in the end times. Give it a look. But how is that possible ?

Greece is in the European Union.

 

[Another Lazarus]

Studying the Bible is exegesis. That's getting information out of the Bible. You're using eisegesis, which is inserting information into the Bible.

Its Paul who wrote this NOT my insertion into the Bible.
That Daniel was not told about the Period of Grace for Gentiles who will inherit
the Covenant first then shall come the final one week.
Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel
5 Which in OTHER AGES was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

 

[Douggg]

Doug, do you believe that your body is the temple of God?

Does God depart a Christian's soul when the body dies?

It's really quite simple. Ask yourself this; If a physical temple is meaningless to God (which it obviously is since Jesus abides in us), how can anything set up in there be an "abomination" to Him?

answer:

Why cannot you not accept that the Temple of God that will be built will be a place intended for the praise and worship of God ? When the abomination of desolation is set up, it becomes desolate, there is no more praise or worship of God in that place.

 

[Another Lazarus]

Why cannot you not accept that the Temple of God that will be built will be a place intended for the praise and worship of God ? When the abomination of desolation is set up, it becomes desolate, there is no more praise or worship of God in that place.

You're right, the 70 weeks of Daniel has one week remains to be fulfilled regarding the establishment of Temple of God in Jerusalem and the following abomination

The remaining ONE WEEK is shown by Gabriel in this verse:
27 And he (the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME) shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate....

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

 

[Another Lazarus]

You are 100 percent correct brother. Except this Anti-Christ comes out of Two Kingdoms.

Whatever nations he might come from This PRINCE original root will come from the same people who destroyed the Temple (the Romans).

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he (the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME IN THE END TIMES) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

 

[Revealing Times]

Whatever nations he might come from This PRINCE original root will come from the same people who destroyed the Temple (the Romans).

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he (the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME IN THE END TIMES) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

Agreed, the European Union will be Revived Rome, it will be the Fourth Beast Revived. All of the Emperors weren't Italians. Some were Gauls, others were of different ethnicity. It is the Beast System, the Fourth Beast, where the Little Horn arises out of. He will be a Prince of the Fourth Beast. Ethnicity does not have to be Italian or Roman.

 

[Another Lazarus]

I The tribulation temple will be dedicated to be a temple to God by the Jews in an effort to maintain their religon, and sacrifices conducted there like in former times, but it will not have the presence of God in the Holy of Holies.

You're right there shall be no presence of God in the 3rd Temple but God will watch whatever happens there and be4 its even rebuilt He knows of the coming abomination of desolation.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

 

[LastSeven]

Its Paul who wrote this NOT my insertion into the Bible.

No. Paul did not write "peace deal" and he did not write "Israel-Arabs". He also did not say there was a huge gap between the 69th and 70th week. Stop deluding yourself.

If you're using words that are not in scripture, then you are inserting words into scripture. Any child can understand that.

 

[Another Lazarus]

No. Paul did not write "peace deal" and he did not write "Israel-Arabs". He also did not say there was a huge gap between the 69th and 70th week. Stop deluding yourself.

God said it.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

 

[LastSeven]

God said it.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

Really? Where? In your dreams?

 

[Straightshot]

For the forum:

The 70 weeks of years decreed for Israel frame the scope of the visions of the prophets

The events 69 weeks have all been fulfilled from start to finish and to the letter .... a matter of recorded history

The 70th week is still pending fulfillment .... virtually none of the events of the period as presented have been fulfilled to this day, there is no historical evidence that matches them .... O

.... but they will be, the prophets are never wrong

Those who deny this truth are up to something .... and the motives of the same will be exposed .... sooner, or later

 

[LastSeven]

Do you really have to end each post with a warning?

 

[Straightshot]

The Lord would have it no other way

Listen up ....... the Lord's Word is nothing to fool around with [Revelation 22:18-19]

 

[Another Lazarus]

The 70th week is still pending fulfillment .... virtually none of the events of the period as presented have been fulfilled to this day, there is no historical evidence that matches them.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.724725
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/pale...hypocrisy-an-open-letter-from-a-muslim-woman/

Its coming soon now, the French Minister has held a meeting last June in Paris for the Peace proposal between Israel-Arab, the Palestine successfully drag int'l nations into this conflict. the next meeting is scheduled at the end of this year where Israel and Palestine shall be invited, as prophesied, Israel will refuse the proposal so the nations will gather to invade them (Gog n Magog war), then antichrist will appear to make the 7 years peace deal with the opening of the 1st Seal of Revelation.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

 

[Postvieww]

Daniel 9:26 And after sixty two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Messiah was cut off (JESUS was crucified) in 33 AD and then at 70 AD the Temple of God/Sanctuary was destroyed by the Roman.

The Roman army is called the people of the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME.

This means the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME IN THE END TIMES IS THE ROMAN ANTICHRIST.

27 And he (the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 9:26 and 27 was amazingly separated by 2000 years.

After the crucifixion of the Messiah and the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple of God, “the prince who is to come (in the end times) ” will make a covenant with the Jewish people that will enable them to reestablish the Temple of God in Jerusalem, This PRINCE will come from the same people who destroyed the Temple (the Romans).

this “prince who is to come” is the Antichrist, the “man of lawlessness” who is “the son of destruction.” his 7 years peace covenant will enable the Jews to rebuild their Temple.

Both Daniel 9 and 2 Thessalonians 2 — shows the fact that in the middle of this 7 week (3 1/2 years into it) this “prince who is to come” will betray the people. He will enter the rebuilt Temple and declare himself to be God. stop the sacrifices and make it “an abomination of desolation,”.

27 And he (the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

http://mideastview.org/entry/who-destroyed-the-sanctuary-and-the-city-in-70ad

Below is an excerpt from the above link. True the Roman army destroyed Jerusalem, but who was in that army and who actually carried out the destruction? It was not soldiers from Rome!

“Historically, there was a distinct difference between being a Roman soldier...and being a soldier in the Roman Army; and here's where real history and assumptions about history clash.

A more in depth inquiry into understanding this passage of scripture has uncovered numerous historical records, as well as modern scholarship, which reveal conclusively that the majority of the soldiers in Rome's army, during the time of the Roman invasion of Jerusalem were NOT Italians. (Europeans) Rome did not recruit Italian soldiers to deal with provinces hundreds of miles away from its capital. The majority of Rome's Italian legions remained closer to the capital to protect the Headquarters of the Empire.

Therefore, one of the more brilliant initiatives of the Roman army was to recruit soldiers in distant regions to bolster their legions to protect Roman provinces. Those soldiers who were not Roman citizens, instantly received citizenship upon joining the Roman army. So who made up the bulk of the Roman legions during the Jewish revolt in 70-AD? The first witness who answers this question is the record of Pubilus Cornelius Tacitus, a Roman Senator during the time of the Roman invasion who wrote:

Titus Caesar… found in Judaea three legions, the 5th, the 10th, and the 15th… To these he added the 12th from Syria, and some men belonging to the 18th and 3rd, whom he had withdrawn from Alexandria. This force was accompanied… by a strong contingent of Arabs, who hated the Jews with the usual hatred of neighbors…

The legions recorded during the Roman invasion of Jerusalem were:

Legion V Macedonia: Judea or Moesia

Legion X Fretensis: Syria

Legion XV Appolinaris Syria

Legion XII Fulminata Asia Minor / Syria

Legion XVIII Egypt

Legion III Gallica Syria

These legions were stationed in the area of Jerusalem and they ALL contained a vast majority of Arab soldiers recruited from Syria, Egypt and Turkey, all of whom harbored a natural hatred against Israel. Jewish Historian, Flavius Josephus, who was witness to the Jewish revolt, writes:

“So Vespasian sent his son Titus [who], came by land into Syria, where he gathered together the Roman forces, with a considerable number of auxiliaries from the kings in that neighborhood…”

Still further, Josephus writes concerning Malchus , the King of Arabia:

Malchus also, the king of Arabia, sent a thousand horsemen, besides five thousand footmen, the greatest part of which were archers; so that the whole army, including the auxiliaries sent by the kings, as well horsemen and footmen, when all were united together, amounted to sixty thousand.

Noted Roman Historians, such as Sara Elise Phang and Nigel Pollard can confirm undeniably that after AD-68, the majority of the soldiers who made up the legions (mainly auxiliary troops) who invaded Jerusalem were majority Arabs. It was these uncontrollable soldiers who defied General Titus order to desist from their destructive rampage and set fire to the Temple, as if being controlled by another power.

Of their carnage, even Titus writes:

“Moreover, do the Arabians and Syrians now first of all begin to govern themselves as they please, and to indulge their appetites in a foreign war, and then, out of their barbarity in murdering men, and out of their hatred to the Jews, get it ascribed to the Romans”?

In other words, Titus did not want the Temple destroyed, but his foreign Arab legions could not be restrained and the destruction of the Temple was later ascribed to the Romans as European aggression.

Since the late 17th century, the church has fulfilled General Titus concern - we've labeled the people of the prince who destroyed the Temple as Europeans, thus, identifying the Antichrist as a European, when history clearly records that it was actually the Arabs who destroyed the Temple.

In the Aramaic language, the word People in Daniel 9:26 is Am (pronounced Ahm) it carries three (3) meanings:

1. A group of people

2. A nation

3. Kinship, by blood or ethnicity

The first meaning would make little sense if we ascribe a simple people group to the Antichrist after hundreds of years.

The second meaning makes more sense. This is where the church got the idea of a Roman Antichrist – the people of the nation that destroyed the Temple will see the Antichrist come from that nation. But the third meaning makes the most sense. Since we know historically that it was Arabs who destroyed the Temple then the people of the prince (Antichrist) to come will be related to him by blood or ethnicity.

The Antichrist is not European. The people (ethnic group) who destroyed the Temple were Arabs. Therefore Daniel was told that the Antichrist will be an Arab…and more specifically, a Muslim. I challenge anyone reading this to find one piece of evidence to prove that Rome is still being identified in this prophecy.”



Micah 5:1 Now gather thyself in troops, O daughter of troops: he hath laid siege against us: they shall smite the judge of Israel with a rod upon the cheek.

2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.

4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the Lord, in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.

5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.

6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

7 And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the Lord, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man, nor waiteth for the sons of men.

8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

9 Thine hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off.

10 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots:

11 And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy strong holds:

12 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers:

13 Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands.

14 And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee: so will I destroy thy cities.

15 And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.

 

[LastSeven]

I don't agree with your anti-Christ theory, but good point about the armies being Arab.

 

[Straightshot]

"The Antichrist is not European. The people (ethnic group) who destroyed the Temple were Arabs. Therefore Daniel was told that the Antichrist will be an Arab…and more specifically, a Muslim"


You are correct .... the little horn of Daniel's visions will not be a European and is never described as such in any prophetic visioin

This one will be a Muslim Caliph by his origins and location according to the prophetic scriptures

And he will arise out of the current fragmentation of the Muslim Middle East .... he will confederate the region forming the 4th kingdom identified in Daniel 7, 8, 11:36-44

... specifically out of the confluence of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran .... northwestern Mesopotamia

In fact, the ancient Roman Empire is not even seen in any prophetic vision and much less a revived EU-centric revival of the same

Not only that, but neither are the Roman incursions of 70 AD contained in the prophetic scriptures .... a matter of recorded history .... yes, but not a subject of the the Lord's more sure word of prophecy

Even the Lord Himself is looking much longer in His discourse related to the time of the end .... He speaks nothing of things like 70 AD, the next rulers of the Middle East like the Arabian Mongol, Parthian, Ottoman, and the British to this very day

Not even the crusades, inquisitions, WWI, WW2, the holocaust, or the recent wars in the Middle East including Israel's recent wars with the surrounding Muslim states .... none of these things over the last 2000 years appear in the visions of His prophets

Here is why

The scope of the visions related to the 70 weeks of years decreed for Israel ends with the 69th week and the Lord's cutting off at His first advent .... the 70th week is still pending

The breach between is simply not a subject of Bible prophecy .... and this breach is still ongoing as we speak

Understanding this truth is essential for correct exegetical rendering .... there have been many attempts to force historical and even current events into this breach of time that have skewed the study .... and why so many have been and are wrong .... even creating the divides of professing Christianity into dire confusion

 

[Another Lazarus]

I don't agree with your anti-Christ theory, but good point about the armies being Arab.

Those arabs were just paid mercenaries and the brain is still the Roman.

Who do you think is the one behind Khadaffy's fall ? Its the USA not the mercenaries.

Who do you think own the Apple corp. in China ? its a US company.
though the thousands of people paid to work are all the Chinese.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH