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On the contrary. The Dep. of Education plays down the illiteracy rates in order to justify their existence & funding. The actual rates are even worse.
Afraid your dead wrong;
A better and less partial view is in the CIA fact book. 99% literacy rate for the US; 100% for Norway.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2103.html
Norway knows no illiteracy, whereas 1% of the US populace cannot read and write.
Taking your argument, obviously, Norway does things differently. Not only does Norway make sure to teach their native populace these basic skills, they also teach their immigrant populace to read and write, something the US apparently fails to do on both accounts.
Hence, Norway scores higher in the Human Development Index; Education than the United States of America.
I work with the people of some of the most rural, poor parts of the United States. I have volunteered with tutoring adults... I can tell you that the literacy rate is >99%.
Hence, Norway scores higher in the Human Development Index; Education than the United States of America.
I wish you would actually read up on the index instead of just making claims you'd like to be true. That is not where the US falls beyond Norway.
That I sure am. On purpose. I fashioned my pseudo-argument to be as silly as your original argument.
But back to your previous post.
100% vs. 99%.
Which was exactly my initial argument, straight from the very same CIA World Factbook, here:
Fellow poster SpritualAntiseptic, however, was trying very hard to argue against this 100% vs. 99% difference:
I don't think that anyone would disagree that the educational system for the Nordic countries is better for the overall population that in the US. The US though has the best universities in the world; hands down.
And I think Sydney is filthy, has shocking house prices and awful public transport. Everywhere I've been in Japan was better than Sydney.Kalevalatar said:Yeah, but Helsinki?? Better than Sydney?!? Please. That has to be a mistake. Seriously. Helsinki is bland, windy, and boooooring-to-tears.
wow, Australia got 8 in the top 100, that's pretty good. I think we only have something like 40 Universities.Absolutely. The US and UK. And you know what? Just so happens the brand new rankings are just in, fresh from the press:
Quite right. The point remains the same: zero (0).
I'm referring to the U.S. Education Department study, with a national sample representative of 222,400,000 American adults, of whoma whopping twenty-three percent (23%in the illiterate category are high school graduates, while another whopping fourteen percent (14%), quote, "completed at least some education beyond high school," and of whom 52% spoke "English only".
Anecdotal. The U.S. Education Department study conclusions say something else entirely. I'll take an official Department of Education study over your word here.
I know a lot more Nordics than I know North Americans, yet I have never in my 40+ years met an illiterate adult Nordic person. I do however personally know two North Americans who can basically scribble no more than their own name. Both of them went to school but somehow managed to surf the system without learning these basic skills. Coming from the privileged Nordic countries, I was shocked to learn that rich first world countries did and could have illiterate citizens. We tend to take the ability to read and write granted.
That indicates a major faillure for the US education systems.
I wish you would take your own advice and familiarize yourself with the OP report.
Norway, however, does offer the best quality life to all Norwegians, not just for the priveleged upper crust.
On the contrary. The Dep. of Education plays down the illiteracy rates in order to justify their existence & funding. The actual rates are even worse.
For unskilled labour - about 75% of the workforce - wages have stagnated or declined. There are several good studies on this.
Sorry, most of the world doesn't "know", much less believe that the US is the best place to live.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/2001-2005_imm_rate_US.PNG
Must be why the US gets 1 to 1.5 million immigrants a year.
That is simply not true, I just posted the minimum wage, which is the ultimate form of 'unskilled labor'. Changes in minimum wage affect wages and salaries in the general work force. The minimum wage has consistantly outpaced the inflation rate and the consumer price index.
Profits have soared while wages have stagnated or declined
Actually, the point remains the same, the GDP for Norway is distorted by a factor of 1:1.5 in terms of CPI with the US.
Look, it is not the end of the world. After all, it is not like the United States of America ranked last in this year's Human Development Index or something. 13th place is still a perfectly decent ranking.
My posts have nothing to do with me caring about the US ranking in the UN index. If you want to back out of the baseless claims you made, then don't post. Don't be condescending and attempt to portray my responses to what you said as some jingoist defense - as though you can put an end to it by patting my head and telling me we did good too.
And many more of them end up digging ditches for a living... it all actually kind of evens out.
calgary is a terrible city. victoiria bc is dryer and sunnier that vancouver.
Just how many times in a row has Vancouver earned the top honor of the Economist Intelligence Unit's liveability rankings?
Oh, goodie. Then it is not just about the United States of America's ranking. What other countries on that list you feel have been treated unfairly and given too low a ranking due to their unfavorable currency exchange rates, mistaken illiteracy figures, higher bar for literacy and all that? Which countries you think deserve the top places?
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