And call no man your father...

[PastorMike]

Its easy solved. God's word spoken through the Lord Jesus Christ says call no man father.

So take the word, use faith and call Ken Hagin Ken Hagin
and that other fella by his name.

Its the Lord thats the father. Human beings are no more our spiritual father than flee in the air.

This is the Apostle Paul speaking...

1 Cor 4:14-17 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you. For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

 

[lismore]

This is the Apostle Paul speaking...

1 Cor 4:14-17 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you. For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

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[PastorMike]

This is approaching Roman Catholic levels of tradition and interpretation. That scripture doesnt say and cannot be used for you to call Hagin or Copeland 'spiritual father'. You are working backwards with a tradition and trying to find scripture to justify it. Dont justify it and get further and further along a tree branch, just drop it.

Ah excuse me... how dare you accuse me of saying that I ever called Hagin or copeland Father... get your facts straight you moron...

 

[lismore]

.. get your facts straight you moron...

A Moron thanks you!

 

[PastorMike]

Moron =

A person whose intellectual development proceeds normally up to about the eighth year of age and is then arrested so that there is little or no further development.

How dare you speak of people with learning difficulties using such a demonic phrase as 'moron' and then have your icon set to Christian. Remember the name you claim to represent.

you are the one who accused me of "Catholic tradition and interpretation" and I bet you didn't even bother to read my posts... so you are the one who is trying to misrepresnt me... so get off your high horse... and in future before you accuse someone at least have the decency to read the posts...

 

[Preacherchick99]

lismore don't be annoying. We have had our fill of annoying ppl this month. I know you're responding to a question but seriously, be sweet.

And I have a spiritual father--And that is my Pastor Art Aragon I don't see anything wrong with it, if it was wrong, the Lord would correct me and I'd be done with it.

 

[lismore]

you are the one who accused me of "Catholic tradition and interpretation"
...

Re-read my post then:

This is approaching Roman Catholic levels of tradition and interpretation.

Big difference.

and I bet you didn't even bother to read my posts... so you are the one who is trying to misrepresnt me... so get off your high horse... and in future before you accuse someone at least have the decency to read the posts...

If im on the highest horse in the world, it doesnt give you the excuse to use derogitory language.

Ephesians 4:29 NIV
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

Remember what reflects badly on a believer reflects badly on Jesus Christ.

 

[PastorMike]

Whatever...

 

[lismore]

lismore don't be annoying. We have had our fill of annoying ppl this month. I know you're responding to a question but seriously, be sweet.

.

Words fail me. Obviously a member of the clique can say anything.

And I have a spiritual father--And that is my Pastor Art Aragon I don't see anything wrong with it, if it was wrong, the Lord would correct me and I'd be done with it.

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[lismore]

Whatever...

So what is it you're trying to tell the moron? Or is it beyond my comprehension?

 

[PastorMike]

I don't want to discuss it with you anymore... I wasted enough time arguing with you...

 

[lismore]

I don't want to discuss it with you anymore... I wasted enough time arguing with you...

Well God Bless you too

Arguing? I dont think we even exchanged one sentence about the topic.

 

[PastorMike]

I was trying to discuss this topic from a biblical standpoint and you came with your accusations... now can you drop it and get back to the op....Mike.

 

[lismore]

I was trying to discuss this topic from a biblical standpoint and you came with your accusations... now can you drop it and get back to the op....Mike.

Thankyou, but no. There is no honour to be had.

Obviously the biblical standpoint does not include 'call no man father'.

Keep well and farewell.

P.S I will remove these accusing posts then!

 

[God_Owned]

Well God Bless you too

Arguing? I dont think we even exchanged one sentence about the topic.

PreacherMike is a good friend of mine and is not insensitive. If you try to operate in love with him, maybe this discussion might be more peaceful.

 

[God_Owned]

lismore don't be annoying. We have had our fill of annoying ppl this month. I know you're responding to a question but seriously, be sweet.

And I have a spiritual father--And that is my Pastor Art Aragon I don't see anything wrong with it, if it was wrong, the Lord would correct me and I'd be done with it.

I agree!

 

[lismore]

PreacherMike is a good friend of mine and is not insensitive. If you try to operate in love with him, maybe this discussion might be more peaceful.

Good suggestion

Agreed, apologies for any offence caused

 

[Preacherchick99]

So we got a "clique" goin' on huh? AHAHAHAHA!!! That's funny

I sure was welcomed with open arms when I joined CF WOF

Anywayz--Back on topic--Well, kinda--Thank God--No more drama! w00t!

 

[God_Owned]

Good suggestion

Agreed, apologies for any offence caused

Very good. Thanks!

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

10-1 that all the ppl willing to disobey Jesus in not calling anyone Father are the same ones who talk about the Father`s Son`s greatest accomplishment in the name of Eshtar.What do you think God thinks of that?